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Alternating weekends with my ex - AIBU?

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TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 21/11/2024 22:28

Hello everyone, first time poster here so apologies if I get the etiquette wrong but I could do with some outside opinions.

My husband and I decided to separate 14 months ago and he moved back in with his parents who live 45 minutes away. He drives back to our town three days a week to work (including on Fridays). The other two days a week he wfh. We have a 7 year old. I only work p/t to accommodate school hours.

Our DC spends every other weekend with him at his parents’ house but he’ll shortly be buying his own place and moving back to our town. On ‘his’ weekends I currently get DC from school on a Friday and take her home to wait (about 90 minutes) until he finishes work. He collects her from mine at about 5:15pm and then I collect her from his on Sunday afternoon.

He has suggested that once he’s living locally again, we should reverse this so that I drop her off at his on his Fridays and he’ll return her to me on Sundays. My issue is that I don’t work on Fridays and often visit my mum who lives over an hour away. I often end up hurrying back just to collect DC and then returning to my mum’s the following morning.

I think that on his weekends he needs to collect her after school on Fridays - or make other arrangements for her care since his current work commitments make this impossible on a Friday - since it’s his weekend with her. He’s totally flabbergasted by this. My mum also thinks I’m being unreasonable.

In case it’s relevant I live a short walk from the school, while he’ll be living on the other side of town.

I guess my question for those of you in a similar situation is, if it’s ’his weekend’ when does that start? I appreciate that I might be being over prickly but I feel like he’s treating me like a nanny, ie expected to fit in around his work commitments. I feel aggrieved that if it weren’t like this I could have a long weekend away occasionally. On the other hand I know that he absolutely cannot change his working hours on a Friday as he’s recently started teaching a local college course that only runs on Fridays.

Please tell me (kindly) if I’m being unreasonable? And if I’m not how can I point this out to him without causing too much of a stink? He is completely averse to anything that inconveniences him and it never occurs to him that there might be another perspective other than his own. However he has been known to accept a different perspective once it’s laid out for him and he has had time to think about it - but only if it’s been done diplomatically!

Thank you, and sorry for the long post!

OP posts:
blueluce85 · 24/11/2024 08:21

Could the weekend not start on a Saturday, so you have your daughter Friday night and your ex takes her to school Monday morning?

My daughter has clothes at both houses but still needs to take a bag with her to return clothes to the other house, she can just take a 2nd backpack into school

EmotionalSupportPotato · 24/11/2024 08:18

Unreasonablyextravagant · 23/11/2024 22:28

Absolutely baffled by some of these responses. Why would your child need to pack a bag to stay with their dad? He should be providing every single thing they need when in his care.

You are no longer married OP so your life should not be dictated by your EXH schedule. Just ludicrous that anyone thinks it should.

For reference, I share 50/50 care and would have extremely short shrift for this nonsense.

You are allowed an independent life too.

When they're younger sure it works fine having clothes at each house but as they get older my DSD wanted to choose what clothes they had where. Bring their make up. Take clothes for specific events. Bring home comforts between homes. It's their stuff and it's cruel to make them leave it in one of their homes.

LottieMary · 24/11/2024 08:15

I also agree in principle he should have her the full Friday which includes illness pick up and end of day collection. But college teaching is super inflexible and you want to get on well - could you agree that for this academic year you’ll continue but stop in September so he can sort his timetabling?
that’s an additional 13 or so Fridays until end July.

ButFirstCovfefe · 24/11/2024 08:10

My ex husband has a key so he can pick up/drop off child stuff.

On his weekends (he does once a week for two weeks (ish) then a Friday to Monday once a month (shift patterns, oh joy!)

When they were younger if one had a club l I’d collect the other from school and then he’d collect both post club. It rankled slightly, on principle, but I live just around the corner from school, and was flexible with work, so ultimately it didn’t matter.

I also sent all their clothes etc. As they’ve got older he has got a lot better at making sure they have a small selection at his (we swap between sometimes as we see their clothes as theirs, not trapped within one household, at it evens out), but he still needs to drop off iPads after his evenings/dsys.

Current set up, with a 13yo and 10yo is that on his nights 10yo walks home alone, has a snack and grabs iPads. Ex picks up 13yo (as they’re a much longer walk away) and then collects 10yo from me. I don’t have to be there but am usually as I can WFH. Then drops bags off next morning (key meaning I don’t have to be present).

BrooookeDavis · 24/11/2024 08:01

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 20:32

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the replies. Apologies if my original post wasn’t clear - my ex and I don’t share our DD 50/50, she lives with me in the week and we share weekends and (in theory) holidays 50/50.

The question of what’s best for my DD is one that I struggle with. I know that she won’t want to go to ASC, and I’m worried that she’ll blame me for the fact that she has to, but on the other hand I’m worried that if I don’t set a boundary now I’ll be doing every Friday pick up (& whatever else suits my ex) until she’s sixteen and my sense of resentment (towards him not her) won’t be good for her either.

To answer a couple of people - yes I always collected DD on a Friday before my ex and I separated, but I also did every single night shift, early wake up call and domestic duty associated with having a small child so I’m not sure that helps me to answer the question - following that logic I should continue to make her lunches etc on his weekends too 😉

It won't be until she's 16. In a surprisingly short amount of time she'll be fine to walk home from school and stay by herself for a few hours. Where will she go to secondary school? Whether that's back to yours or getting herself across to his house you'll know. But I absolutely agree that she will want her own things and carrying them around school might make her resentful.

BreezyAquaCrow · 24/11/2024 07:52

HeddaGarbled · 22/11/2024 23:28

I disagree. If he works Friday and you don’t, it seems like you’re just being awkward for the sake of it. It seems nonsensical to me that he should be expected to arrange and pay for childcare for a couple of hours after school one day per fortnight. Is that even possible, and if it is, your daughter will hate it, surely?

Whatever you do with your mum on the weekends your daughter is with you, you can still do on his weekends, or you can go to your mum’s (or do whatever else you want) whilst your daughter is with him.

If you want to be able to have a long weekend including a Friday occasionally, that can be negotiated as an individual occurrence.

Agree with this. It seems mean of you to put your daughter in after school club and miss the chance to see her when you have a whole weekend without her.

Lemonadeand · 24/11/2024 07:50

I think stand your ground. You don’t need to adjust your life to keep this selfish man happy anymore and his convenience is no longer your concern. Of course people will try to make you feel guilty that this impacts on your child but they never bloody do that to the father, do they? Resist the mum guilt and stop absorbing everything both pragmatically and emotionally. Your life and your Friday plans matter.

Mindymomo · 24/11/2024 07:40

I would leave it as it is for now. It’s going to be an upheaval for your DD when your ex moves house, so it will be better to keep to the same arrangement. Again, if you get a different job, this is going to impact your DD. My friend who has 3 children had this arrangement for over 10 years, her DC came home from school, got their things together and had to wait till their Dad picked them up, which was anytime from 5.30 to 7. Ex also had them one night mid week, the eldest carried around all the following day the dirty clothes for all 3 from the day before.

SapphireOpal · 24/11/2024 07:39

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 22:55

Thank you. I am trying to stake my claim to an independent life but I’m finding this particular issue really hard to navigate.

The idea of not sending DD to her dad’s with a bag has blown my mind. What about her favourite teddy and whichever book she’s halfway through reading? I guess these could go in her school bag but then she needs separate clothes (& shoes) at her dad’s and he’s definitely not going to want to buy / pay for those. And if he does is she going to have to change out of them before coming home on Sunday evening??

She should have clothes, shoes, books and teddies at her dad's. If he has her 2 nights EOW and 50:50 in the holidays then that's about a quarter of the year - and to be honest it's nearly half the time she's not wearing school uniform. He needs to have stuff for her for that portion of the year rather than relying on you to provide it. You just return them a fortnight later when he drops her off.

AncientAndModern1 · 24/11/2024 07:26

clickclack8 · 24/11/2024 07:12

what on earth do you mean by a generational “thing” that you’re mother would think you were unreasonable in this situation rather than your ex husband?

It’s not unusual for some women, especially older women, to think a man’s role as ‘breadwinners’ or frankly just having a penis means that women should prioritise his needs over hers. It’s like giving men bigger portions/better food at meals. Patriarchy and all that. I’m no spring chicken and my mum isn’t like this, but some of my friends’ mums definitely were/are.

clickclack8 · 24/11/2024 07:12

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 21:46

I think it’s a generation thing, coupled with concern for my DD. If I worked on a Friday I think she’d view it differently.

what on earth do you mean by a generational “thing” that you’re mother would think you were unreasonable in this situation rather than your ex husband?

winter8090 · 24/11/2024 07:10

YABU.
There's no set time when the "weekend" should start.
You work part time to accommodate drop off and pick up from school. If you need childcare so you can do other things on a Friday find it together. Maybe that does mean your ex agreeing a different work pattern on Fridays but his employer will need to agree to that.
Work together to find solutions instead of making demands that don't work for the other party.

HarraKiri · 23/11/2024 22:55

My kids go to ExH every other weekend. He lives very close to their school - a 10 minute walk/5 minute drive, whereas I live a 20 minute drive in the opposite direction.

However, I still pay for the afterschool club on "his" Fridays, then collect them from there and drive them to his at 6pm. It's bonkers really. But

  1. the kids like to see me on that Friday eve, even for only 5 mins
  2. it means that things like teddies/comfort blankets don't have to be kept at school all day if he were to pick them up

Yes it's inconvenient for me really. But I love my kids more than I dislike ExH, so I do it, because it's the smoothest transition for them.

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 22:55

Unreasonablyextravagant · 23/11/2024 22:28

Absolutely baffled by some of these responses. Why would your child need to pack a bag to stay with their dad? He should be providing every single thing they need when in his care.

You are no longer married OP so your life should not be dictated by your EXH schedule. Just ludicrous that anyone thinks it should.

For reference, I share 50/50 care and would have extremely short shrift for this nonsense.

You are allowed an independent life too.

Thank you. I am trying to stake my claim to an independent life but I’m finding this particular issue really hard to navigate.

The idea of not sending DD to her dad’s with a bag has blown my mind. What about her favourite teddy and whichever book she’s halfway through reading? I guess these could go in her school bag but then she needs separate clothes (& shoes) at her dad’s and he’s definitely not going to want to buy / pay for those. And if he does is she going to have to change out of them before coming home on Sunday evening??

OP posts:
Wolframandhart · 23/11/2024 22:41

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/11/2024 21:13

YANBU

My ex tried to pull this and got short shrift from the judge. He was ordered to pick up from school and told he was the one responsible should they fall ill during the day.

I would also be suggesting dropping off on to school on mondays, that way
he picks up the child in school uniform, washed it and sends child to school in the uniform.

Usedtobeslummy · 23/11/2024 22:33

Hi, welcome to MN!

Me and my ex are very amicable and try to make things work for each other. If I had to go to my mums on a fri, this couldn’t work for me and my ex wouldn’t expect it to.

If I could fit around it without much hassle I would. But we are both trying to accommodate each other as much as possible.

I wouldn’t be guided by others’ reactions cos they always favour the man IMO.

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable

Unreasonablyextravagant · 23/11/2024 22:28

Absolutely baffled by some of these responses. Why would your child need to pack a bag to stay with their dad? He should be providing every single thing they need when in his care.

You are no longer married OP so your life should not be dictated by your EXH schedule. Just ludicrous that anyone thinks it should.

For reference, I share 50/50 care and would have extremely short shrift for this nonsense.

You are allowed an independent life too.

Janpoppy · 23/11/2024 22:21

Totally great for kids to swap over at 5.30 if that works for everyone in the equation.

However, in your circumstances it is absolute not your job to accommodate his convenience at your own expense. After all, he is her parent, not a fun uncle!

As a parent he needs to pick up his share of parenting responsibilities. News flash - kids are not a convenience product.

So, this means after school collection on the evenings he has her. Also providing clothing for her at his house or other items she needs. As she gets older there will be ways to transport items she needs, you can work that out at the time.

Hold your boundaries so he's not taking advantage of you. This important for your well-being and to model this for your daughter.

He is probably the type of guy that has learned that being disagreeable pays; if he always demand others do it his way and therefore this is what always happens, why would he suddenly start to be agreeable? If this is him, you will just need to learn to expect him to be unreasonable and be prepared to push back to get what you need. Yes it's exhausting, but with someone like this it is the only way to teach them to respect you.

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 22:06

EmotionalSupportPotato · 23/11/2024 20:54

Hi step mum here. What you proposed worked perfectly fine when the kids were younger but as they got older and started to want to take their clothes between houses it became a bit shit for them as they'd have to carry their bag to school. What worked well in the end was when they were old enough they had a key and dad could drive by their mums house on the way home for them to pick up the bag to take to his. Just something to think about.

Yes I am concerned about this. DD currently takes bags of stuff with her at the weekend (clothes, toys, favourite teddies). I’ve just moved house and there’s a very small, brand new shed on the drive. I was wondering about putting a combination padlock on it and popping her bags in there on Friday morning for exH to help himself to since it’s very near the school.

The shed is very clean and watertight (& currently empty). I was considering putting carpet & curtains in it as a ’clubhouse’ for DD so it’s not a manky shed full of old tools etc but nonetheless I’m worried that by putting her things out there I’ll somehow be setting DD up for years of therapy.

I say that partly in jest but I am also really worried about how her dad & me splitting up is going to affect her / scar her for life. In fact this more than anything is what makes me think maybe I should just suck it up and collect her from school every Friday. But the thought of doing that makes me furious that yet again all the arrangements are being made to suit him.

This is why I need / appreciate your input (thank you!). I’m caught between concern for my DD and my anger at having spent 20+ years of my wishes/needs coming second to my husband’s.

OP posts:
Pinkissmart · 23/11/2024 21:59

I don’t know.

Is there any compromise here? Like, agree to do it once a month?
If you are looking for a new job, you may need to work together a bit more and share care rather than ‘your time’ ‘my time’

TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 21:49

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/11/2024 21:13

YANBU

My ex tried to pull this and got short shrift from the judge. He was ordered to pick up from school and told he was the one responsible should they fall ill during the day.

This is interesting / helpful thanks. We haven’t started divorce proceedings yet (which is partly why I’m trying to tread carefully!). I don’t think either of us intend to end up in front of a judge but I did wonder what their response would be if we did.

OP posts:
TeaAndCakeForMePlease · 23/11/2024 21:46

clickclack8 · 23/11/2024 20:58

it’s thus i find so weird

My mum also thinks I’m being unreasonable.

I think it’s a generation thing, coupled with concern for my DD. If I worked on a Friday I think she’d view it differently.

OP posts:
Willyoujustbequiet · 23/11/2024 21:13

YANBU

My ex tried to pull this and got short shrift from the judge. He was ordered to pick up from school and told he was the one responsible should they fall ill during the day.

clickclack8 · 23/11/2024 20:58

it’s thus i find so weird

My mum also thinks I’m being unreasonable.

Bonbon21 · 23/11/2024 20:56

... no you can't 'pick up ' for him as he will be starting HIS new arrangements with immediate effect.... and what you do with YOUR time is none of his f'ing business.

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