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To think Irish people have more personality and character

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Baileyscoffeeat1030 · 21/11/2024 22:25

In general, don’t they?

(I’m not Irish, great grandad was)

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OkPedro · 23/11/2024 17:38

Noredtape · 23/11/2024 06:39

Is he not sound? We will have to wait and see if a movie gets made before we decide.

'The General' turned out to be a great fella after all giving nappies to the neighbours in need and of course there was the very romantic love story between him and two sisters going on at the same time. Everyone was happy. There was the small matter of him crucifying some innocent guy on a pool table but feck it, mistakes happen.

Sure he was a grand fella. The robin hood of modern times 🫣😆

Mummadeze · 23/11/2024 06:48

Totally agree, I haven’t ever met an Irish person who didn’t have the gift of the gab. I do think the accent helps though. I also always think Americans sound charismatic but it is an accent thing.

Noredtape · 23/11/2024 06:39

Mercurial123 · 22/11/2024 18:33

And Gerry "The Monk" Hutch....

Is he not sound? We will have to wait and see if a movie gets made before we decide.

'The General' turned out to be a great fella after all giving nappies to the neighbours in need and of course there was the very romantic love story between him and two sisters going on at the same time. Everyone was happy. There was the small matter of him crucifying some innocent guy on a pool table but feck it, mistakes happen.

Baileyscoffeeat1030 · 22/11/2024 22:20

@Allfur Everyone knows they are

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Slowwly · 22/11/2024 18:38

Whilst this is of course stereotyping and I would never voice this in public, I was speaking to my husband and adult kids the other day, and I said that it was interesting that I have never met an Irish person that I disliked.

We discussed that obviously there will be the same range of personalities as in any other culture, but without fail, every Irish person I have met has been warm, engaging and great company. Perhaps it is because I work in the NHS and I meet lots of Irish nurses, and that may have skewed my opinion and maybe they are a particular breed. But even outside of work, I have always loved chatting to Irish people.

Perhaps statistically I am now due to spend my next fifty years meeting Irish dickheads.

Mercurial123 · 22/11/2024 18:33

Noredtape · 22/11/2024 18:13

Oh yes Conor McGregor is NOT sound. He's the only one though.

And Gerry "The Monk" Hutch....

DeanElderberry · 22/11/2024 18:16

But he's been found guilty, so the jury are sound, and the Judge, and all the people Nikita thanked, and Nikita herself.

DeanElderberry · 22/11/2024 18:14

I wish.

Noredtape · 22/11/2024 18:13

DeanElderberry · 22/11/2024 18:03

Such a negative response to an innocent question, I certainly have more personality and character than anyone else, so have all my neighbours, and everyone in my nearby town (except the quite extraordinary number of them insisting on driving the wrong way round the car park this morning, they had no character or personality) (and the politicians on the radio failing to explain why they'll do in the next five years what they have signally failed to do in the last five) (and Conor McGregor) But apart from that we are outstandingly outstanding to a man and woman.

And @curlywurlymum was spot on when she pointed out we are almost all outstanding beauties.

So there.

Oh yes Conor McGregor is NOT sound. He's the only one though.

Noredtape · 22/11/2024 18:11

Yes Irish people are sound, English people are wankers. The only people on a par with the Irish for soundness are the Scots. This is a universal truth. If you're confused watch Braveheart, the Mel Gibson one from the 90s.

DeanElderberry · 22/11/2024 18:03

Such a negative response to an innocent question, I certainly have more personality and character than anyone else, so have all my neighbours, and everyone in my nearby town (except the quite extraordinary number of them insisting on driving the wrong way round the car park this morning, they had no character or personality) (and the politicians on the radio failing to explain why they'll do in the next five years what they have signally failed to do in the last five) (and Conor McGregor) But apart from that we are outstandingly outstanding to a man and woman.

And @curlywurlymum was spot on when she pointed out we are almost all outstanding beauties.

So there.

IVFmumoftwo · 22/11/2024 17:46

Baileyscoffeeat1030 · 21/11/2024 22:29

@Wherethewildthingsfart Than some other people…

You mean English don't you..

Bouledeneige · 22/11/2024 17:33

But Irish people and northerners are generally friendlier than southerners in my view. It's not always true of course there are plenty of bah humbug misanthropes and snobs everywhere. In the stereotype about Londoners not being generally friendly I think it is true (I am one by the way) - as is generally true of people who live in big anomising cities. Im a friendly person and will stop to help strangers etc but am often zoned out on the tube, in the streets. I live going to Manchester etc to have more warm and friendly interactions.....

Stereotypes are a function of the human brain needing to generalise to learn how to manage situations. Otherwise every time we walked in a shop we'd have to re-learn how to behave and every time we as women walked home alone at night we would need to re-learn taking precautions to keep safe.
Generalisations are generally useful but stereotypes can lead to prejudice built on ignorance.

Allfur · 22/11/2024 16:43

TheErinyes · 22/11/2024 16:37

They evolve in a colonial situation for very obvious reasons — it’s easier to oppress, kill and dispossess a set of people when you’re firmly convinced they’re ‘savages’.

The roots of the pejorative Irish stereotype (pugnacious, sly, ignorant, superstitious, ‘uncivilised’, loquacious but incomprehensible, dangerous) were already in place when Giraldus Cambrensus wrote his Topographica Hibernia in the 12th c during Henry II’s conquest of Ireland, and were further refined by Edmund Spenser during the Tudor campaigns, when he justified advocating a scorched earth policy on the grounds that the Irish were a ‘disruptive and a degraded people’. And the wave of Punch and other periodicals’ cartoons of Irish people as apes didn’t accidentally coincide with the campaign for Home Rule and the Land War.

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/01/28/irish-apes-tactics-of-de-humanization/

I’m not thrilled with any kind of stereotyping of Irish people, whether it’s dehumanised ape-like savages or winsome, blarneying charmers with a glint in their eye and a song in their heart. It has a deeply unpleasant colonial history.

Is the percepton that northerners are more friendly than southerners, also because of colonialism?

TheErinyes · 22/11/2024 16:37

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/11/2024 15:04

Stereotypes is an interesting area.

They don't happen in a vacuum. They happen because the human brain evolved to find it useful to subcategorize other people.

Swamp people? Funny guys! Great food! Love those fellas.
Mountain folk? Hide from them. They'll steal your food then your wife.

When your survival depends on assessing who might be friend or foe, it makes sense for your brain to develop a rapid-check system for that.

As long as they are neither offensive (all x people have y negative trait) or reductive (all x people are only z trait), there's little harm in them. I like noting the idiosyncrasies between cultures.

They evolve in a colonial situation for very obvious reasons — it’s easier to oppress, kill and dispossess a set of people when you’re firmly convinced they’re ‘savages’.

The roots of the pejorative Irish stereotype (pugnacious, sly, ignorant, superstitious, ‘uncivilised’, loquacious but incomprehensible, dangerous) were already in place when Giraldus Cambrensus wrote his Topographica Hibernia in the 12th c during Henry II’s conquest of Ireland, and were further refined by Edmund Spenser during the Tudor campaigns, when he justified advocating a scorched earth policy on the grounds that the Irish were a ‘disruptive and a degraded people’. And the wave of Punch and other periodicals’ cartoons of Irish people as apes didn’t accidentally coincide with the campaign for Home Rule and the Land War.

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/01/28/irish-apes-tactics-of-de-humanization/

I’m not thrilled with any kind of stereotyping of Irish people, whether it’s dehumanised ape-like savages or winsome, blarneying charmers with a glint in their eye and a song in their heart. It has a deeply unpleasant colonial history.

Irish Apes: Tactics of De-Humanization - Sociological Images

The Society Pages (TSP) is an open-access social science project headquartered in the Department of Sociology at the University of Minnesota

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/01/28/irish-apes-tactics-of-de-humanization

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/11/2024 15:04

Stereotypes is an interesting area.

They don't happen in a vacuum. They happen because the human brain evolved to find it useful to subcategorize other people.

Swamp people? Funny guys! Great food! Love those fellas.
Mountain folk? Hide from them. They'll steal your food then your wife.

When your survival depends on assessing who might be friend or foe, it makes sense for your brain to develop a rapid-check system for that.

As long as they are neither offensive (all x people have y negative trait) or reductive (all x people are only z trait), there's little harm in them. I like noting the idiosyncrasies between cultures.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 14:59

No.
People of all nationalities can have different characteristics and personalities.

Allfur · 22/11/2024 14:53

Are they more friendly than northerners? Are northerners more friendly than southerners?

mamajong · 22/11/2024 14:50

Weird post! I think people from all countries have awesome and shitty people, bit of a sweeping generalisation!

HamptonPlace · 22/11/2024 14:48

Baileyscoffeeat1030 · 21/11/2024 22:56

@miniaturepixieonacid There could be an element of that too, i’d say the same about many Canadians I’ve met too, but the Irish people I’ve met just have a different way about them 🤷🏻‍♀️

Canadians=nice, but generally (not all!) quite boring...

RingoJuice · 22/11/2024 14:22

sharpclawedkitten · 22/11/2024 12:52

Humans are humans and have personalities depending on their genes and upbringing and experiences.

Whether they are Irish, French or Chinese is irrelevant.

Obviously there are cultural things - and how the government treats its people in the case of China, but ultimately we are all the same.

It’s really not so clear cut. Human behavior is a result of both environment and genetics. It will slightly affect closely related groups. It’s a spectrum, but each group would be represented at different points along a broader spectrum.

This is what makes humanity so interesting.

sharpclawedkitten · 22/11/2024 12:52

Humans are humans and have personalities depending on their genes and upbringing and experiences.

Whether they are Irish, French or Chinese is irrelevant.

Obviously there are cultural things - and how the government treats its people in the case of China, but ultimately we are all the same.

CrushOnEminem · 22/11/2024 12:25

@arisingstar that's a ridiculous statement!!!

Dontlletmedownbruce · 22/11/2024 10:19

@BitOutOfPractice re PR I agree, definitely coming mostly from the USA migrants. So many have done well. Its a wonderful underdog story too. An oppressed race that gained independence, a country gripped by extreme poverty turned into a first world country. From uneducated poorly paid labour to educated middle class in one or two generations. In that sense I think irish have a lot to be proud of. Our English language was a huge factor here especially in US.

TheErinyes · 22/11/2024 09:48

Rumors1 · 22/11/2024 08:50

I am Irish and the one thing I can say quite definitively about Irish people is that we love to take the pi*s out of each other. Slagging each other off is a sign of affection and we use it in most situations, even where you wouldnt think it would be appropriate. I notice we use a lot of black humor also.
I believe most Irish people feel the need to make the other person laugh in a conversation, and that probably makes us appear like we are all great fun.

I lived in England for a long time, and wouldn’t say I noticed any great difference in terms of people affectionately taking the piss out of one another. Don’t get me wrong, I think there are in some ways huge cultural differences between Ireland and England, but that’s not one of them in my experience.