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Hannah Ingram Moore. AIBU Not To Be Surprised At Charity Commission Findings?

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Curtainqueen · 21/11/2024 00:35

After the bulldozing of her luxury spa I really am unsurprised at the findings that her and her husband did after all benefit significantly from the charity and repeatedly had their hand in the till. Did she honestly believe this would never come out?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86qdq67dd5o

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BustingBaoBun · 23/11/2024 07:48

Superhansrantowindsor · 23/11/2024 06:56

The whole thing was stage managed from the start. There was an old woman near me baking and cooking like mad for the housebound - bit of coverage in the local paper but that was it. Loads of people did tremendously good, kind hearted acts in the pandemic and didn’t get a knighthood for it.

The woman near you didn't have the BBC behind her, bringing her kitchen to the nation every morning on breakfast news.
Whereas Tom trudging round his garden followed by every movement by him and the daughter thereafter....remember her in the Royal box at Wimbledon taking applause....I was WTAF...
She became inflated with her self importance

Superhansrantowindsor · 23/11/2024 06:56

The whole thing was stage managed from the start. There was an old woman near me baking and cooking like mad for the housebound - bit of coverage in the local paper but that was it. Loads of people did tremendously good, kind hearted acts in the pandemic and didn’t get a knighthood for it.

Tontostitis · 23/11/2024 06:44

SchoolDilemma17 · 21/11/2024 22:31

Please it really is not. All charities are held to the same standards which are set by the charity Commission.
countless charities in this country do fantastic work and are run by committed and passionate people on low salaries or volunteers. Maybe spend some actual time volunteering and see what charities are all about.

I do

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 16:40

It’s a bit unfair to tar all charities with the same brush. If charities are dodgy we hear about it. The Charities Commission requires charities to be EXTREMELY transparent, and before I donate I always check out a profile int he CC website

myrtleWilson · 22/11/2024 15:44

As a charity CEO I must be doing it all wrong, no fat cat living off a top notch wage for me

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 12:45

missmollygreen · 22/11/2024 10:14

So people who donate to charity are mugs?

Classy

People who donated to the Captain Tom Foundation are absolute mugs, it was clearly dodgy from the start but every just HAS to virtue signal around the latest trend don’t they

JusteanBiscuits · 22/11/2024 10:41

At the time, yes NHS staff did need money spending on things like 'common rooms'. They weren't able to leave during their shifts, and many MANY were working in pretty awful conditions. So a couple of comfy chairs for them to rest on during a lunch break made a massive difference.

The hospital I was working at received a donation, and it was used on buying pyjamas, underwear and personal care items for patients as that was a massive problem during the lockdowns.

JusteanBiscuits · 22/11/2024 10:37

Supersimkin7 · 21/11/2024 07:56

The huge sum of money has largely been wasted. £38m could have built a hospital ward but the cash went on dribs and drabs like fruit baskets for nurses and snack stands for other NHS staff.

That’s charity spending for you - a worse scandal than anything his daughter could have done.

That isn't how NHS Charity works. It can't be used directly for patient care unless being raised specifically for an item. And to build a ward, you need to build a hospital first. There generally aren't many large spaces in hospitals where wards can be added.

Gall10 · 22/11/2024 10:32

Theworried2 · 21/11/2024 00:56

@PassingStranger As far as I’m aware that has been fully passed to NHS charities to use how they see fit. E.g. better staff common room facilities. This scandal is to do with the book money.

‘Better staff common rooms’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

DrZaraCarmichael · 22/11/2024 10:30

My FIL thinks I'm an absolute mug for giving up an afternoon of my time each week to work in a charity shop. Why on earth would you work and not get paid for it? See also: giving blood, running the PTA, volunteering at large sporting events. He has very odd ideas about a lot of things but is not alone in those ideas.

I think deep down people know that charities are a good thing and are doing valuable work. Many people - i'd argue most - have benefited from the work of volunteers even if that's just being able to get their kid into Brownies, having a team of litter pickers making their local park tidier, or attending a football match and seeing the first aid volunteers helping someone who's fallen. A lot of people feel threatened by volunteers - they know that they are contributing and giving back to the community. Rather than actually put themselves out and get involved and comtributing, it's easier to sneer at the "PTA mummies" or the thieving charity shop volunteers, or the fat cat bosses, or the nasty Brown Owl.

Then along comes a bad apple like this woman and the sneerers have their confirmation bias firmly boosted - see I was right, they ARE all thieving do-gooders, charity is rotten to the core! 🙄

Curtainqueen · 22/11/2024 10:27

Oreyt · 22/11/2024 09:07

I feel for the kids. No amount of money is worth messing up your kids.

I understand they even dragged the kids on TV interviews to garner sympathy while mummy was turning the tears on about how awfully she had been treated.

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missmollygreen · 22/11/2024 10:14

QueenBitch666 · 21/11/2024 01:37

Biggest grift going. I bet all those mugs who donated feel like absolute tits 😂

So people who donate to charity are mugs?

Classy

Tracystubbs · 22/11/2024 09:58

dayswithaY · 21/11/2024 23:06

I’m surprised anyone bought his dull book. Was it just 400 pages about walking round his garden in lockdown?

No,it went through his life story from birth onwards

Or at least that's the impression I got from the second hand copy I bought on ebay and the first 8 pages that I struggled through

I've read some utter shite,but this was the dullest book I've ever read

I'm told it did go on about his sex life a bit but I didn't get that far

DrZaraCarmichael · 22/11/2024 09:30

Tontostitis · 21/11/2024 21:59

Isn't this how all charities behave? Loads of expenses giving the top dogs a great lifestyle off the back of volunteers. The problem here is she wasn't part of the charity middleclass boss circuit so they've called her out on the bullshit. I wish all charities and foundations could be held to the same standard.

Prime example of the damage that one rogue person running one rogue charity does. People use it to reinforce their own skewed belief that everyone involved in a charity is doing it for the wrong reasons.

It's mostly done to justify to themselves why they don't volunteer or donate, but it's so damaging. People are too hunkered down in their own prejudices that they won't even bother to understand what the Charity Commission is or does.

Oreyt · 22/11/2024 09:07

YouHaveAnArse · 21/11/2024 09:48

One of their kids is still at school, right? I'm sure today is going to be a fun day for her.

I feel for the kids. No amount of money is worth messing up your kids.

Username2101 · 22/11/2024 09:05

I was a trustee of a charity, never got paid a penny but did it because I believed in it.
From the moment you join it is made crystal clear that you are to scrutinise anything to do with finances as if anything goes wrong it's on your head. I'm glad these grifters are being held to account.

Hoppinggreen · 22/11/2024 09:04

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 21/11/2024 22:17

Yes 2020 was bonkers. Especially on MN. The MNer who told people to put cheese in their coffee rather than go out and buy milk, and another who said washing powder isn’t an essential item, had me pissing myself (heaven forbid you made fun of them at the time)

I responded to a FB post about a poor confused old man clutching a shopping list in the supermarket by saying that there were a lot of these type of posts around - apparently I hate old people and wanted them to all die!
The nasty comments I got were unbelieveable, I got a load of PM's too but I didn't even bother reading them.
People went nuts

Obbydoo · 22/11/2024 08:34

Aaron95 · 21/11/2024 11:19

There are a lot of judgemental people on here.

They didn't do anything illegal by keeping the book advance. If you had the opportunity to keep £1.5 million for a book your father had written, or to donate it to charity, would you honestly give it away? Honestly, I'm not sure I would. That sum of money is life changing.

Then you are as vile and money grabbing as them. The book literally says that it will help to raise money for charity. They have deliberately misled the public. That would be a scummy thing to do if they were living in poverty but they weren't. They were already richer than most of us could dream off. It is pure and simple greed.

SweetSakura · 22/11/2024 08:33

And charity jobs tend to be less well paid than their private or public sector equivalents

SweetSakura · 22/11/2024 08:32

Tontostitis · 21/11/2024 21:59

Isn't this how all charities behave? Loads of expenses giving the top dogs a great lifestyle off the back of volunteers. The problem here is she wasn't part of the charity middleclass boss circuit so they've called her out on the bullshit. I wish all charities and foundations could be held to the same standard.

Trustees aren't paid and share a huge amount of their expertise and knowledge for free.

I don't do it for kudos.

I do it because I know I have skills and knowledge that can add value and I wanted to support a charitable cause close to my heart

Far from being paid, I don't claim expenses and at times it is like doing an additional job

Obbydoo · 22/11/2024 08:29

Tontostitis · 21/11/2024 21:59

Isn't this how all charities behave? Loads of expenses giving the top dogs a great lifestyle off the back of volunteers. The problem here is she wasn't part of the charity middleclass boss circuit so they've called her out on the bullshit. I wish all charities and foundations could be held to the same standard.

No. Absolutely not, you could not be more wrong. The Trustees are not paid at all. The staff are paid but I can guarantee you they would earn considerably more if they worked in the public or private sector for the same jobs.

Surely the fact that these people have been caught tells you that this does not happen a lot. The Charity Commission is there to stop this kind of behaviour and when it happens, they are caught. But it actually happens very rarely as most that decide to work for a charity, knowing they will be poorly paid compared to comparable jobs in the public/private sector, do so because they are passionate about the cause. The Ingram-Moores are vile money grabbing thieves. Very rare in the charity world but by posting this kind of bullshit you are contributing to the damage they have done to the concept of charity.

At best your post is ill-informed. At worst it is part of the dangerous smear campaign that has the potential to damage charity fundraising which in turn can harm the lives of those who need charity.

Please, please can people stop spreading this bullshit, it's stupid and cruel.

dayswithaY · 21/11/2024 23:06

I’m surprised anyone bought his dull book. Was it just 400 pages about walking round his garden in lockdown?

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/11/2024 22:44

The other thread says they don't meet the criminal threshold, which is bewildering.

SchoolDilemma17 · 21/11/2024 22:32

Aaron95 · 21/11/2024 11:19

There are a lot of judgemental people on here.

They didn't do anything illegal by keeping the book advance. If you had the opportunity to keep £1.5 million for a book your father had written, or to donate it to charity, would you honestly give it away? Honestly, I'm not sure I would. That sum of money is life changing.

They marketed the book with proceeds going to charity. That is misleading and actually illegal.
They were asked to correct this twice and refused, so it wasn’t an accident or misunderstanding. They deliberately misled people who bought the book.

SchoolDilemma17 · 21/11/2024 22:31

Tontostitis · 21/11/2024 21:59

Isn't this how all charities behave? Loads of expenses giving the top dogs a great lifestyle off the back of volunteers. The problem here is she wasn't part of the charity middleclass boss circuit so they've called her out on the bullshit. I wish all charities and foundations could be held to the same standard.

Please it really is not. All charities are held to the same standards which are set by the charity Commission.
countless charities in this country do fantastic work and are run by committed and passionate people on low salaries or volunteers. Maybe spend some actual time volunteering and see what charities are all about.

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