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Johnbrown · 20/11/2024 20:35

Why is he still on master chef?

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Manypaws · 02/12/2024 16:49

crosstrainerornament · 02/12/2024 15:51

I'm waiting for a big confessional where he explains away his awful behaviour.
The only question is which way he goes?

Addiction? Sex, drugs, or alcohol?

Mental health breakdown? (One that lasted 20 years and insults anyone with genuine MH issues)

Too many sausage rolls??

Novaavon · 02/12/2024 16:12

Swivelhead · 02/12/2024 14:44

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

Well said.

crosstrainerornament · 02/12/2024 15:51

I'm waiting for a big confessional where he explains away his awful behaviour.
The only question is which way he goes?

Addiction? Sex, drugs, or alcohol?

Mental health breakdown? (One that lasted 20 years and insults anyone with genuine MH issues)

Calliopespa · 02/12/2024 15:10

montelbano · 02/12/2024 13:41

Don't see why the BBC cannot put a short statement on screen before the programme starts saying that it was recorded before the current allegations.
The whole situation 're allegations is very complex. Wallace is innocent until the investigation proved otherwise ,despite the large number of women complaining about his obnoxious behaviour, so suspension seems sensible but allow the remaining episodes to be shown purely for the benefit of the contestants.
However there is a real problem about allegations in general. Whilst the vast majority of allegations made for harrassment, sexual assault, theft, racism, homophobia, etc., etc. are true and need to be taken seriously, there are almost always a tiny minority of malicious, false allegations which can cause great harm and distress. A false allegation can destroy a family or destroy a career, and even if proved false a stain often remains (especially across SM).
Don't know what the answer is.

I think the other thing that can be tricky - and I’m not saying it applies here - but there has to be a problematic aspect of taking today’s attitudes and applying them to behaviour that took place years back. It’s great that as a society we are increasingly evolving and people see certain behaviours as having been very wrong - and sone will be so wrong they were known to be at the time. But there’s a place in between where things can be very driven by social mores of the time ( again reiterating that this may very well not be relevant in this case). An example of this which I expect to become an issue down the line is posting things on sm. I feel certain there will be a backlash - perhaps who were children when their pics etc were posted on SM seeking redress from the adults who did it. To what extent will it be fair to go back in time to now when it is very much a social norm to do it? I don’t, as I see the potential for it to be construed as a gross violation of privacy; but do the people currently doing it in a climate where it is generally acceptable deserves to be treated by today’s standards or tomorrow’s? I think there is no easy answer to that. But if I think back to my childhood or a little further still there were a lot of things people did - both bottom slappy type things but also seatbelts/ no car seats for babies etc. The past is a different country and all that. Yet of course there has to be accountability for things as well. I think the balance is a tricky one.

crumblingschools · 02/12/2024 15:02

Freezing pensioners? Is that what GW wants to do with women of a certain age

Allfur · 02/12/2024 15:00

Swivelhead · 02/12/2024 14:44

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

Pensioners living too long?

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 15:00

Renamedyetagain · 02/12/2024 14:50

Ffs. Misogynistic comments are the tip of a deep, dangerous iceberg that we need to start chipping away at. You don't get to decide that it's irrelevant. * *

You also don't get to decide on someone's guilt by reading what's in the press.

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 14:57

Swivelhead · 02/12/2024 14:44

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

💯

Username056 · 02/12/2024 14:51

As much as I can’t stand Greg Wallace I really didn’t think the Prime Minister’s spokesperson needed to make a statement.

Renamedyetagain · 02/12/2024 14:50

Swivelhead · 02/12/2024 14:44

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

Ffs. Misogynistic comments are the tip of a deep, dangerous iceberg that we need to start chipping away at. You don't get to decide that it's irrelevant. * *

Swivelhead · 02/12/2024 14:44

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

C8H10N4O2 · 02/12/2024 14:42

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 14:38

Totally agree but the bbcs investigation hasn't yet concluded. It's just feels like a public hanging - guilty by tabloid trial.

Having seen many "investigations" announced by the BBC and other broadcasters over the years the word "investigation" is too often a euphemism for "fob people off until they forget about it". Which is probably why so little changed over the years in terms of working culture.

They and the production company are also not disinterested parties. There will be a share of employer responsibility under the laws covering harrassment in the workplace.

crumblingschools · 02/12/2024 14:41

Don’t think the BBC are investigating, isn’t it the production company?

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 14:38

C8H10N4O2 · 02/12/2024 14:34

The sheer number and range of documented claims over the years would give the lie to this.

When repeat offender men are allowed to hide behind "process" you are effectively saying their victims of either sex are lying. Its not an accident that names become public where there are multiple victims and that old chestnut "but some women lie" becomes irrelevant where there are so many documented cases.

Totally agree but the bbcs investigation hasn't yet concluded. It's just feels like a public hanging - guilty by tabloid trial.

C8H10N4O2 · 02/12/2024 14:34

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 14:28

I totally agree with this. I'm not defending anyone, but the papers are conducting their own trial here and have already found him guilty. It's like a witch hunt.

Surely the BBC needs to conduct and conclude its investigation before we all go for a piece of his scalp?

The sheer number and range of documented claims over the years would give the lie to this.

When repeat offender men are allowed to hide behind "process" you are effectively saying their victims of either sex are lying. Its not an accident that names become public where there are multiple victims and that old chestnut "but some women lie" becomes irrelevant where there are so many documented cases.

newdiamondring · 02/12/2024 14:28

montelbano · 02/12/2024 13:41

Don't see why the BBC cannot put a short statement on screen before the programme starts saying that it was recorded before the current allegations.
The whole situation 're allegations is very complex. Wallace is innocent until the investigation proved otherwise ,despite the large number of women complaining about his obnoxious behaviour, so suspension seems sensible but allow the remaining episodes to be shown purely for the benefit of the contestants.
However there is a real problem about allegations in general. Whilst the vast majority of allegations made for harrassment, sexual assault, theft, racism, homophobia, etc., etc. are true and need to be taken seriously, there are almost always a tiny minority of malicious, false allegations which can cause great harm and distress. A false allegation can destroy a family or destroy a career, and even if proved false a stain often remains (especially across SM).
Don't know what the answer is.

I totally agree with this. I'm not defending anyone, but the papers are conducting their own trial here and have already found him guilty. It's like a witch hunt.

Surely the BBC needs to conduct and conclude its investigation before we all go for a piece of his scalp?

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2024 13:58

BreakingNews Gregg Wallace has apologised for “any offence that I caused” after posting a video saying complaints about his behaviour came from “a handful of middle-class women of a certain age”

Source Press Association News Agency.

Looks like someone has got into work this morning and given his some proper legal and PR advice!!!

sharpclawedkitten · 02/12/2024 13:53

NetZeroZealot · 01/12/2024 10:38

As more of this stuff comes out, surely the BBC can’t continue to show the current series of Masterchef?

I think they should show it. There are only a few episodes to go and it's not fair on the competitors who have got that far.

Disclaimer, I am not watching it so I don't know how involved he is but he's not usually that involved in the Professionals version.

They might be able to edit it to make him less visible.

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2024 13:44

the80sweregreat · 02/12/2024 13:19

I wonder if they will pull the programme now ?
Sad for those who are in it, but it'll be interesting to see what the bbc decide

I don't want it pulled.

They should broadcast it as it's edited.

It might give some people some food for thought.

montelbano · 02/12/2024 13:41

the80sweregreat · 02/12/2024 13:19

I wonder if they will pull the programme now ?
Sad for those who are in it, but it'll be interesting to see what the bbc decide

Don't see why the BBC cannot put a short statement on screen before the programme starts saying that it was recorded before the current allegations.
The whole situation 're allegations is very complex. Wallace is innocent until the investigation proved otherwise ,despite the large number of women complaining about his obnoxious behaviour, so suspension seems sensible but allow the remaining episodes to be shown purely for the benefit of the contestants.
However there is a real problem about allegations in general. Whilst the vast majority of allegations made for harrassment, sexual assault, theft, racism, homophobia, etc., etc. are true and need to be taken seriously, there are almost always a tiny minority of malicious, false allegations which can cause great harm and distress. A false allegation can destroy a family or destroy a career, and even if proved false a stain often remains (especially across SM).
Don't know what the answer is.

the80sweregreat · 02/12/2024 13:19

I wonder if they will pull the programme now ?
Sad for those who are in it, but it'll be interesting to see what the bbc decide

Aquarius1234 · 02/12/2024 12:53

I am sure this has already been asked, but BBC could have easily replaced him years ago, esp for a female presenter.
Why not? everyone else more famous gets replaced?

yaki · 01/12/2024 20:28

What are the other people in the production company doing when he's being an oaf? Men should call out this behaviour too if its to stop

yaki · 01/12/2024 20:25

Is he suggesting his behaviour would be very acceptable working class or upper class girls women ?
Does he really think working class or upper class man would think it OK for a middle aged bloke like him to talk their to his wife ,daughter, mother as reported.
I don't think wearing glasses would save him

littlebilliie · 01/12/2024 20:13

RafaistheKingofClay · 01/12/2024 13:17

😂 at today’s response from Greggg. Honestly the guy can’t help but make himself more unlikeable every time he opens his mouth.

God I feel sorry for him, someone needs to take his phone off home

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