Greg wallace

It is one thing to express disgust with his actions, but the hateful tone of the pile-on is almost as bad as his initial misconduct.

I'm sorry but I'm really with C8H10N4O2 on this.

This has gone on for well over a decade and I know people who have had to deal with similar conduct whilst working in media and the culture of misogny really was one of the things that stopped me pursuing a similiar career.

So I really don't give a fuck if people don't like the tone. Its about bloody time women got angry about this and said how unacceptable it is.

I will also remind people the wonderful Bewilderness's Rules of Misogny
https://4w.pub/the-rules-of-misogyny/

2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry.

13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves.

14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent.

Anyone tone policing can do one on the basis of the above.

Not sure if you're obtuse or genuinely dense, but I'll leave you in puzzlement.

Which word confuses you? Rife? Or crime?

"Etiquette breaches"????

Seriously!??

So let's get this straight - you think that because there are other more seismic events going on in the world, this grubby little misogynist should be allowed to continue his disgusting behaviour?

Righttttt...

PS When did we start freezing pensioners???!!

Country's falling apart with crumbling infrastructure, waging wars we can't afford, pensioners who are living too long so we have to freeze them, rife crime, a growing illegal population we get no tax from and cannot keep tabs on... but one thing we do do well is a good media-fuelled lynch mob over etiquette breaches. Yay for us.

Really? You have more problem with women describing what happened to them than the acts and words themselves?

Bear in mind that many of these women had already gone through "the process" and it had been brushed under the carpet or at most Wallace was give a finger wag talk which made no difference to his actual behaviour.

Good on them for speaking out. It might protect some of the next women to come into his ghastly proximity.

Lisa Faulkner reposted a statement from John on her Instagram a couple of days ago and he didn't say he'd complained, it was along the lines that he would be very upset if people didn't have an amazing time on the show and he wasn't saying anything else until the investigation was complete.

I agree. I find it a bit reprehensible when people in the same industry as him suddenly become very vocal. Is this because they want to save their own skin in a very public way? I ask this because if it was me I wouldn't be posting my experience on social media I would contribute to the investigation by telling the investigators. Every single person is entitled to the dignity of a proper investigation. It is one thing to express disgust with his actions, but the hateful tone of the pile-on is almost as bad as his initial misconduct.

Lisa Faulkner reposted a statement from John on her Instagram a couple of days ago and he didn't say he'd complained, it was along the lines that he would be very upset if people didn't have an amazing time on the show and he wasn't saying anything else until the investigation was complete.

I felt there was a lot of vitriolic pile-on at first, but I hadn’t envisaged the sort of comments and incidents that are being alleged.

Thought it would be more boyish, but some of it is pretty vile.

That said, I do find all the hate a bit much. He needs reprimanding if true, but why all the relish and delight from some? I just think these situations are very sad. Sad for the victim, sad for the perpetrator’s family, and sad, in a way, that anyone would feel the need to behave like that.

id assume John’s team are feeding those stories as he wants his wife to replace Gregg.

id assume John’s team are feeding those stories as he wants his wife to replace Gregg.

That's John Torode being reported today as having complained numerous times.

That's John Torode being reported today as having complained numerous times.

Thats a fun show I've just listened to it and will listen to the rest of the series.

Stephen didn't mention penis's (Phil Wang made a far less subtle reference right near the start of the show) at all.

Susie Dent (I think, well it wasn't Lucy Beaumont and there were no other women on the show) suggested a new word 'licksation' or 'lixation' theres no info on how it would be spelled... to describe the situation when you've got an icecream and someone wants a taste of it, they have a 'lixation' .. a fixation on licking your icecream.

Stephen asked: "could this be applied to anything else?'

Thats it. Yes, of course the innuendo is there but it's supplied by your mind, he could have been referring to Lollipops or icelollies or any number of other things.

He didn't make it personal, he didn't suggested he had a lixation towards Susie Dent or anything she might have, it wasn't a whispered thing in an empty green room or as he brushed his genitals unnecessarily up against someones bottom 'in passing'...

And really quite crucially it was on a show about words and their meanings, use and creation, hosted by Susie Dent and Phil Wang.

Absolutely fucking worlds apart from Ggreg saying to Katy Brand that he'd 'love to munch the living daylights out of your.... little tart'.

I was more surprised that the word 'twat' was acceptable pre watershed Radio4 language (Phil Wang).

Thats a fun show I've just listened to it and will listen to the rest of the series.

Stephen didn't mention penis's (Phil Wang made a far less subtle reference right near the start of the show) at all.

Susie Dent (I think, well it wasn't Lucy Beaumont and there were no other women on the show) suggested a new word 'licksation' or 'lixation' theres no info on how it would be spelled... to describe the situation when you've got an icecream and someone wants a taste of it, they have a 'lixation' .. a fixation on licking your icecream.

Stephen asked: "could this be applied to anything else?'

Thats it. Yes, of course the innuendo is there but it's supplied by your mind, he could have been referring to Lollipops or icelollies or any number of other things.

He didn't make it personal, he didn't suggested he had a lixation towards Susie Dent or anything she might have, it wasn't a whispered thing in an empty green room or as he brushed his genitals unnecessarily up against someones bottom 'in passing'...

And really quite crucially it was on a show about words and their meanings, use and creation, hosted by Susie Dent and Phil Wang.

Absolutely fucking worlds apart from Ggreg saying to Katy Brand that he'd 'love to munch the living daylights out of your.... little tart'.

I was more surprised that the word 'twat' was acceptable pre watershed Radio4 language (Phil Wang).

I felt there was a lot of vitriolic pile-on at first, but I hadn’t envisaged the sort of comments and incidents that are being alleged.

Thought it would be more boyish, but some of it is pretty vile.

That said, I do find all the hate a bit much. He needs reprimanding if true, but why all the relish and delight from some? I just think these situations are very sad. Sad for the victim, sad for the perpetrator’s family, and sad, in a way, that anyone would feel the need to behave like that.

I heard steven fry make a joke about a penis to a woman who was talking about licking an ice cream. This was on r4 at 6.30pm

Greg (g) would now be getting crucified for that, in the pile on.

Not at all.
I thought steven fry's comment was appalling as well fwiw, but its all hindsight with Gregg.

God yeah, poor picked-on Gregg 🙄. He's the one we should be feeling sorry for in this shit show.