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It's a MIL one - stop me before I say something I'll regret

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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

OP posts:
user1497787065 · 20/11/2024 16:48

In my experience the first born grandchild will always trump those that follow particularly if the first born is born to the daughter.

My children were always second best in my MILs eyes. I knew it wasn't going to change and I should just get used to it.

Notonthestairs · 20/11/2024 16:47

Wholly disingenuous to suggest the ILs are doing the Op a favour by attending. They aren't childcare.

They were offered a couple of nights away with a grandchild, accepted the invitation and helped plan the trip.

TheignT · 20/11/2024 16:47

Gazelda · 20/11/2024 16:05

If this was the cause of last years upset, she knows exactly how you'll be feeling this time.

You know she favours her daughter's child. She knows that you know.

There's no reason for any more pretence. Let the lovely relationship between her and your DD continue. And try not to bear a grudge.

But apart from that, I'd just accept this as the status quo.

But She doesn't get invites to DDs nativity, ballet show, graduation. You won't want to risk DD being disappointed to be trumped by her cousin. Make sure MIL knows this is the last time you allow her to let DD down.

What if the child wants to invite her grandparents? More important to score points than consider what the child wants even when she's a 21year old graduate?

Strawberrydrill · 20/11/2024 16:47

Sorry meant to say mine we obvious and openly showing favourite and it’s just not right.

it can do long term damage both mentally and emotionally to be brought up with grandparents doing this and it needs to be addressed.

crostini · 20/11/2024 16:46

I'd text back and say what you've said here that's basically

'I'm quite disappointed MIL. We have booked and paid for this break for us all and you will not be present for main day. We organised the activities with you in mind and thought it would be lovely to have quality time with DD before Christmas properly starts. It's a real shame you can prioritise this, as you've committed to it first'

If she argues back after that, I'd just tell her outright not to come. She will have found out the date of the nativity WAY after she agreed to the break btw. I think she's being really rude here.

Strawberrydrill · 20/11/2024 16:46

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 16:21

I do want DD to have a good relationship with her GP’s, I had a great one with mine and it’s something I really cherished. I know I have to let this go, but I don’t want her thinking it hasn’t upset me at all, so I will be asking DH to at least have that conversation, as he would rather speak to her in person.

But as time goes on, if this continues to happen it will become obvious to DD and eventually I’ll have to explain why she’s choosing the other. I just hate the thought of her ever feeling second best.

Be careful with this.

Eldest Dc is the favourite. Youngest Dc is not and GPs had an obvious favourite and we open about it.

I don’t regret going NC. I’d actually ask my DH to have a proper conversation about favouritism and both the gender difference and the treating of the two genders differently both are unacceptable.

Rhaidimiddim · 20/11/2024 16:43

Gazelda · 20/11/2024 16:05

If this was the cause of last years upset, she knows exactly how you'll be feeling this time.

You know she favours her daughter's child. She knows that you know.

There's no reason for any more pretence. Let the lovely relationship between her and your DD continue. And try not to bear a grudge.

But apart from that, I'd just accept this as the status quo.

But She doesn't get invites to DDs nativity, ballet show, graduation. You won't want to risk DD being disappointed to be trumped by her cousin. Make sure MIL knows this is the last time you allow her to let DD down.

Excellent advice.

Hollietree · 20/11/2024 16:42

Gummybear23 · 20/11/2024 16:21

Grandparents are going to do both.

But the Grandma in this thread has cancelled going to Santa’s grotto with one grandchild, so that she can go to the nativity of another Grandchild! She is not doing both!

C8H10N4O2 · 20/11/2024 16:41

walltowallkents · 20/11/2024 16:23

Grandparents have favourites, parents have favourites - it is what it is.

I’m not implying it’s something that the MIL wouldn’t enjoy by saying she’s doing OP a favour by attending, it IS a favour to her, whether she enjoys it or not. In the same way that your wedding guests are doing you a favour by attending, you aren’t doing them one by inviting them. It’s OP’s weekend that she wants to have, and it’s her who wants MIL to attend, and she has chosen to pay for it. MIL isn’t somehow indebted to OP because OP has chosen to pay for this “treat”. It’s great if MIL enjoys the weekend, but ultimately it’s OP’s weekend. I think OP needs to bear that in mind as she seems to think she’s doing MIL a great favour by inviting her and paying.

Also you’re saying she could have said no. Well I can imagine how that would have gone down. 😂

This transactional approach to relationships is ridiculous. The trip was a gift to the iLs, designed for their liking and which they accepted - they were involved in all the arrangements including DD's first visit to Father Christmas which they are now ditching in favour of the other grandchild.

They were not doing the OP a favour by accepting. They are bloody rude to accept and then disappear for the central day. The OP and DH could have saved themselves the money and gone to do something entirely for themselves - I recommend in future that they follow precisely that approach.

HideousKinky · 20/11/2024 16:40

I'm a grandparent and in this scenario it is obviously correct to say, sorry I can't make the nativity this year as I'll be away with Bounty's family - never mind, I'll come next year. The holiday was booked first and the nativity comes round every year so there will be other nativities!

godmum56 · 20/11/2024 16:39

Heronwatcher · 20/11/2024 15:56

I suspect MIL might see her solution (driving to see the nativity and then coming back) as best of both worlds and I can sort of see the logic (as things stand she’ll have 2 evenings and mornings with 1GC, the middle of one day with the other). That actually seems pretty logical especially as the GC can do activities during the middle of the full day. I bet the GC won’t care whether Granny is there for the full day if she’s doing interesting stuff.

Plus she agreed to this before she knew the date of the nativity which is incredibly special for lots of people, I daresay she’d have said no if the date was known. These things happen, it’s not worth destroying the relationship between GP/ GC over.

what relationship? The message I see here is "There are people I prefer to spend my time with"

Anonycat · 20/11/2024 16:37

I do understand how you feel and I think they are wrong, but I wouldn't reply rudely or tell them not to bother coming at all. If your DH agrees, I would reply in a "more in sorrow than in anger" tone: "Oh no! That's really disappointing. We were looking forward to treating you as a thank-you gesture and spending time as a family with you, and I’m sure you would have enjoyed seeing DD's meeting with Santa." You feel justifiably hurt, and I don’t see why you should hide it.

CeciliaMars · 20/11/2024 16:36

I'd be really upset. Centre Parcs is bloody expensive, and I'd imagine you won't do this every year. It's a big thing someone else paying for you to go away. I can't believe they'd leave on the only full day. I would have to speak to them about it.

Flossflower · 20/11/2024 16:36

I think you MIL should stick to her first commitment. That is what we try to do as grandparents. When our children were growing up, my parents always put my brother’s children first. She even referred to my brother’s children as ‘my lot’ in front of my children! This is one of the reasons I am fairly LC with my elderly mother now.
I really do think your planned trip is far more important than a naivety play, especially as your MIL went last year. I would be saying something or asking if she can go by train so at least FIL can stay.

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 16:36

@walltowallkents yes, I did think that paying for her and FIL to come away with us and stay in a nice lodge and pay for their food etc was a treat (not really a favour?) and something they would enjoy - and something I asked if they would like prior to booking. She could’ve turned around and said no thank you, and we still would’ve gone. I just thought they would’ve also enjoyed it.

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BustingBaoBun · 20/11/2024 16:36

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There's no need to call me a 'shitebag'. Really not.

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Maray1967 · 20/11/2024 16:33

Hollietree · 20/11/2024 16:11

Couldn’t disagree more.

She planned to go on a trip away with one grandchild, including accompanying that Grandchild for their visit to Santa’s Grotto. Booked and paid for months ago.

She then got invited (at a later date) to see a different Grandchild in their annual nativity play……… decided to blow out her original plans with one grandchild, in favour of another Grandchild.

As a Mum I would be very offended on behalf of my child.

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This nails it - that is exactly the case. The correct response from MIL would have been to say no to the nativity because she will be away with OP and her DGC. She has basically just made it very clear which DGC she prioritises. Bloody awful.

Newname71 · 20/11/2024 16:30

It sucks having the less favoured kids! My (late) MIL showed little to no interest in my DS’s. She had a great grandson whose birthday was the same day as DS1. She remembered GGS birthday every year and forgot DS’s even his 18th. As the boys grew up they sadly didn’t really bother with her. I do think you get out of a relationship what you put in.

BustingBaoBun · 20/11/2024 16:29

I’m not implying it’s something that the MIL wouldn’t enjoy by saying she’s doing OP a favour by attending, it IS a favour to her, whether she enjoys it or not. In the same way that your wedding guests are doing you a favour by attending

Is this what's known as transactional relationships? I would not think like this in a million years.
I attend a wedding - not as a favour- but because I am really delighted to see my friend/daughter/cousin so happy on her wedding day.

I would attend the Centre Parcs Santa thing because I would be bursting at seeing little DDs face with Santa (she could well burst into tears, who knows!)

Not everything is favours like that.

paddlinglikecrazy · 20/11/2024 16:26

I’m in the, tell her not to bother coming camp.
you’ve paid for and arranged this trip she committed to coming to months ago. She’s now choosing her grandson over her granddaughter.
Nativity plays last about 30 minutes and it’s parents the kids need there watching them, not Granny, especially when Granny has already arranged to be somewhere else.

dutysuite · 20/11/2024 16:25

My in-laws have always treated my children differently from the other grandchildren, I’ve never mentioned it but it has meant we’ve spent less time with them, we’ve never showed them it bothers us as they would thrive on that. Because we’ve never mentioned anything about their favouritism only one of our teens has only just started to notice themselves without any input from us, as a consequence they choose not to spend time with them. My in laws actions annoyed me when my children were little but in the end I thought sod them, my children got the attention they needed from us and my family.

TheignT · 20/11/2024 16:24

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 16:06

Yes, DH is passive. Probably why we work, because he is and I am not! He does not like to rock the boat, or upset his mum. Which I get - but I do feel like I have to advocate for DD most of the time. Sometimes I wish he would just say god that was a bit shitty of her, which to be fair he did on #holidaygate which is probably why things changed afterwards.

@brbg2g no, she went to his nativity last year. They do spend time as a group, DH doesn’t work on Thursdays and takes DD over to spend time with MIL/SIL and her cousin, because he doesn’t seem bothered by it.

I think my worry is yes, DD couldn’t give two hoots at the moment. She’s going to have a great time and won’t care that MIL is there or not when she meets Santa, but one day she probably will.

My sister was my grandmother's favourite, I always knew it but I loved her and spent time with her. My brother was my other grandparents favourite probably because they adored my father and he died when we were kids so my brother filled a gap. If you don't make a big deal of it your daughter might be like me and just accept she loves them and they love her and the league table doesn't matter.

I love going to a nativity, when my eldest GC was in the nativity there was only one spare ticket and the other grandmother got it. I was really upset. For me, and maybe your MIL, the nativity is much more significant than a visit to Father Christmas.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 16:24

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 15:39

@crumblingschools we do one year with in laws, one year with my family. This year is in laws.. hence why I’m trying to keep the peace if I can. I hate fall outs, I don’t want to argue but I also don’t want to brush over shoddy behaviour, which I genuinely think this is.

If she were away with SIL and we found out the nativity were on the same day I wouldn’t even ask and put them in that position, and my god I would NOT expect them to drive back in the middle of it to attend! I wouldn’t expect that of anyone.

Can you spend Christmas with your family instead this year? I wouldn't want to have Christmas with MIL after this. Her behaviour is indefensible.

maydaymayday1 · 20/11/2024 16:24

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 16:21

I do want DD to have a good relationship with her GP’s, I had a great one with mine and it’s something I really cherished. I know I have to let this go, but I don’t want her thinking it hasn’t upset me at all, so I will be asking DH to at least have that conversation, as he would rather speak to her in person.

But as time goes on, if this continues to happen it will become obvious to DD and eventually I’ll have to explain why she’s choosing the other. I just hate the thought of her ever feeling second best.

Honestly make sure she knows you are hurt. Tell her she must do what she wants but you are hurt.

Don't brush it off