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It's a MIL one - stop me before I say something I'll regret

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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

OP posts:
Livinglifetoday · 20/11/2024 19:08

If sil didn't know perhaps you should tell her now but I fail to see how your mil wouldn't have let her know the plans. I still feel its up to sil to reassure her mother she's fine with her going on the break for the duration OP & indeed encourage her to do so

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:08

@MyOpalViewer no, we are going to say we understand it’s their decision to miss out on the day, but will be there for the rest of the trip

OP posts:
MyOpalViewer · 20/11/2024 19:07

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:05

SIL will just not have realised, she probably would’ve said for her not to go if she did know, but MIL will be desperate to see that nativity, so won’t have said at the time, knowing fully well it clashed and she would make excuses to me later.

I really appreciate all the responses, especially the ones that have validated how I’m feeling.

Had a good chat with DH tonight. He agrees he thinks it’s rude and he’s going to tell her tomorrow we are disappointed she will be missing the activities we had planned as a group, but understand that’s their decision.

At least we know for future now, and next year won’t be inviting them so at least we won’t be let down. We will definitely still make the most of the trip, DD has been banging on about meeting Santa and I can’t wait to see it ❤️

She’s saying that she’s still going to come and just go to the nativity

So are you going to say “no” to that?

TheGirlattheBack · 20/11/2024 19:06

My DD is not the favourite, she is the first GC but my MIL doted on my BIL’s DD once she came along. Kids can be really astute about this sort of thing and my DD started to gave MIL the cold shoulder when she was about 4. In the end after being asked several times by MIL why DD wasn’t friendly to her, I had to explain it was due to the favouritism. My MIL did change her behaviour but their relationship has never really recovered. I feel sad for them both.

Your MIL is being incredibly rude and thoughtless. You have every right to be hurt, you’ve put time, money and effort into a lovely holiday and they are ditching you. Like others have said, downgrade the relationship after the holiday.

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:05

SIL will just not have realised, she probably would’ve said for her not to go if she did know, but MIL will be desperate to see that nativity, so won’t have said at the time, knowing fully well it clashed and she would make excuses to me later.

I really appreciate all the responses, especially the ones that have validated how I’m feeling.

Had a good chat with DH tonight. He agrees he thinks it’s rude and he’s going to tell her tomorrow we are disappointed she will be missing the activities we had planned as a group, but understand that’s their decision.

At least we know for future now, and next year won’t be inviting them so at least we won’t be let down. We will definitely still make the most of the trip, DD has been banging on about meeting Santa and I can’t wait to see it ❤️

OP posts:
Boredoutofmyhead · 20/11/2024 19:03

All the people on here who are trying to excuse the MIL awful behaviour.
If I book to go away with one of my friends,I don't ditch them when something else comes up.

BustingBaoBun · 20/11/2024 19:01

Tandora · 20/11/2024 18:56

She’s doing both as she’s going on a Christmas trip with one DGC while also going to the nativity or the other. Hence the 3 hours of driving which I’m sure no GP would particularly want to do.

She doesn't have to do it. She could explain that she has had this trip booked for 6 months and she has sat down with her son and his wife and agreed activities so she can spend time with her other grandchild.
No one is forcing her to go to the nativity.

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2024 18:58

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:25

Thanks everyone. She did go to his nativity play last year also - DD doesn't have one so maybe I'm just not seeing the big deal around that.

@TTPDTS we booked the break in the summer - dates have been in the diary for at least 6 months.

@yeesh DH works in retail and can only get a few days off in December, but we wanted to do something christmassy.

It's just so disappointing, I felt like things were finally balancing out.

In her defence she wouldn't have known when the Nativity was

And maybe her grandson would have been upset and she's stuck in the middle

Livinglifetoday · 20/11/2024 18:58

Just as much the fault of OP sil

Tandora · 20/11/2024 18:56

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 18:22

How on earth is she doing both if she will miss seeing her grand-daughter meet Santa for the first time? That was supposed to be the highlight of the trip and OP discussed this with MIL and FIL before booking and paying for it.

MIL already has a prior commitment with her son and his family that she should honour. Instead, she is determined to see her grandson in his nativity for the second year running rather than watch her grand-daughter meet Santa.

She’s doing both as she’s going on a Christmas trip with one DGC while also going to the nativity or the other. Hence the 3 hours of driving which I’m sure no GP would particularly want to do.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 20/11/2024 18:55

TheFormidableMrsC · 20/11/2024 16:54

@GivingitToGod Unfair? What's unfair is an exceptionally rude MIL who has accepted a weekend away, an expensive one at that, but is dumping her hosts for a 30 min nativity play that could be recorded to show her. She's unbelievably rude and ungrateful and I'd never invite her anywhere again.

100% this.

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 20/11/2024 18:54

It is ridiculous to drive back and forth like that on 3 successive days.

But what can you do?

I would have DH tell her that you are both sad that she will miss DD’s first Santa visit as that is something you had hoped to share with them. Don’t frame it as annoyed, just sad. And DH has to say it’s both of you.

Unfortunately you have been performing the ‘pick me’ dance which tends to end in disappointment.

Redlorryyellowlorryblue · 20/11/2024 18:53

Sorry OP. Actions speak louder than words. I would tell them not to come.

LookingforMaryPoppins · 20/11/2024 18:53

That's appalling. You have every right to feel hurt. It is pointless them joining you at all. They are not even planing to rush back after the nativity.

If they do join you and then leave, missing the main day, it will ruin the day (and potentially the trip) for you as, with the best will in the world, it will annoy and upset you that they are leaving and missing all the special activities you have booked.

I think you should suggest they don't come at all. Take friends / family that do want to spend time with you or go alone as a family .

Tandora · 20/11/2024 18:51

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 18:06

Having a favourite means that you like that grandchild more. Even if MIL has a preference for her grandson, she should make every effort to ensure that neither child is aware of this. Her behaviour is really poor and bad mannered. Who accepts a paid for holiday and then spends most of the one full day elsewhere?

My granny vastly favours my cousin. I don’t think of it in terms of she “likes her more” , they just have a closer relationship, partly circumstance, partly lots of different things. I know she loves me and I love her. It really doesn’t bother me that much. I know it used to irritate my mum a bit, but honestly competing with others over who’s closer to who never did anyone any good in any context.

MyJadeFinch · 20/11/2024 18:50

I think your MIL seems to be the domineering presence and your FIL and DH probably just goes along with it. When people like you OP (from the ‘outside’) come into this and know what a healthy dynamic looks like, it can be a surprise to those in the trenches, as it is just ‘how it has always been’ (MIL making all decisions and FIL and DH following the same old pattern for years).

It won’t change. I agree with PPs that suggest to cancel the in-laws invite. Maybe can some other family or friends take the booking?

My MIL is the same. She favours her DD’s kid. She doesn’t bother connecting with us at all. Our DC is a toddler and does not know her. Similar to you OP, I extended myself many times only to be pushed back. The latest visit she complained she was missing a get together of some social group that she sees regularly versus seeing her grandkid, her DS and me. It was three months between visits. I apologised to her for missing out her group get-together and stopped initiating anything on my end. DH communicates with her, I don’t bother anymore, no cute messages about her grandchildd, no calls, no more care packages - she doesn’t do anything back why should I waste one more moment of time.

I’m fortunate DC has interested grandparents on my side.

Livinglifetoday · 20/11/2024 18:50

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 18:38

@TheFairyCaravan

I see far more of my own mother than her daughter in law, and my children therefore do too.

Mum has a very natural relationship with me, but is more uncomfortable around my DP - or any of my siblings partners.

Rightly or wrongly, I think it’s the grandmum/the daughter that tend to be involved more in social situations etc.

That bond is typically going to be closer with the GM and her own daughter - plus the dynamics associated with this.

That said, I don’t think any grand children are loved less, it’s more about the social dynamics that play out between a GM and her daughter v’s daughter in law.

Reading this makes me so grateful my son & dil ensure both sets of Grandparents see & interact with their Grandchildren equally including alternating Christmas days.

PinkPolkadotFlamingo · 20/11/2024 18:49

In your shoes, I would be saying "I think it's best that we do a joint trip another time when you are not double booked, as it's going to be confusing and upsetting for DD if you have to leave part way through." If she comes back with further nonsense about the grandfather driving back and forth, just say that you've already cancelled their spots.

I hate it when people double book and pull shit like this and I always cancel if they suggest a half-arsed version of what had originally been planned.

If you go along with this, you're giving her the green light to always see plans with your DD as flexible and pull similar stunts in the future.

Showerflowers · 20/11/2024 18:48

I think you definitely need to address it with your in-laws. Or else these kind of things will keep happening and it'll turn into something bigger.

I speak from experience after years of my in-laws favouring sil dc. My dc didn't get a look in. And because my DH didn't want to confront them about it, well they just carried on excluding our dc. Now they are adults and they hardly see their grandparents. They have no close relationship, it's a four times a year quick visit during which time mil bangs on about the favourites almost the whole time.

And it has affected our dc. My own parents have passed and I don't have much family my side. They really needed and wanted all the good times with grandparents. It's totally ruined any relationship between the cousins. It's caused a fracture in the family. They tell me they are angry and don't want to really see them now and that they have been made to feel not good enough.

My eldest graduated from uni last year. We were allowed four tickets. We asked mil to come and she was thrilled. We booked a lovely meal for afterwards. Two days before graduation she told us she couldn't come because sil was going away for the weekend and she needed to mind her dog. Final nail in the coffin for my dd.

DirtyDuchess · 20/11/2024 18:45

I feel for you, it's horrible behaviour on their part. I'd bring someone else along with you as you'll be uptight with them there. Can your DH not speak out and say how hurt he is?

Hiyawotcha · 20/11/2024 18:43

A grandchild’s nativity play, when he was in one last year and he’s only 3.5 absolutely doesn’t seem like a big thing to miss. My parents didn’t come to any of my children’s ones. Plus tickets were generally max 2 per family.

TheFormidableMrsC · 20/11/2024 18:41

lucysnowe2 · 20/11/2024 18:37

Can you not move the holiday dates OP?

No don't do that. That will set the scene for everything going forward. Why should op change a date that has been discussed, booked, paid for to accommodate a bloody nativity play.

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 18:38

@TheFairyCaravan

I see far more of my own mother than her daughter in law, and my children therefore do too.

Mum has a very natural relationship with me, but is more uncomfortable around my DP - or any of my siblings partners.

Rightly or wrongly, I think it’s the grandmum/the daughter that tend to be involved more in social situations etc.

That bond is typically going to be closer with the GM and her own daughter - plus the dynamics associated with this.

That said, I don’t think any grand children are loved less, it’s more about the social dynamics that play out between a GM and her daughter v’s daughter in law.

lucysnowe2 · 20/11/2024 18:37

Can you not move the holiday dates OP?

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/11/2024 18:34

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 20/11/2024 14:35

Honestly it’s BS and you and your DH should be annoyed tbh…

you booked them first now they have a better offer off golden child so they are binning you off.

if you can I’d amend the booking and save yourself a few hundred and tell them to stay home and you’ll do it “some other time” like the 12th of never

if not amendable I would still actually tell them to stay home and save themselves the driving and either invite your parents / siblings / friends instead.

there is no way they’d be coming on that holiday with me and my family.
and I wouldn’t be bothering to organise much for them because ot put in much effort going forward.

your mil should be embarrassed…

Edited

That's what I'd do too.

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