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It's a MIL one - stop me before I say something I'll regret

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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

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NoisyDenimShaker · 20/11/2024 19:47

You're not being unreasonable, OP. She booked with you first, and she should have honoured that commitment. There'll be other nativity plays, and she can always see a video. It may not the same, but she was already committed elsewhere.

When you said that your DD pales in comparison to your SIL's child (in MIL's eyes)...I have seen this dynamic play out in my own family, and it's not pretty. My dad's mum had two sons and a daughter. Her favourite GC, by far, was her daughter's daughter. As my dad said to me, you'll never compete with the daughter's daughter. Sounds like something similar is going on here.

Your MIL is wrong to play favourites and wrong to bail on one branch of the family for another. That's a surefire way to spread family discord. Doesn't anyone with half a brain know that you don't play favourites and you honour whichever commitment was made first, except in extenuating circumstances? (e.g. If my friend and I had planned to slope off to the pub for a swift half, I doubt she's mind me cancelling if I got invited to a ball.)

Your MIL is silly and immature. I'm sorry.

There's nothing you can do with people like that, who are self-centred and bad-mannered. I agree with your DH. Rise above it and have a lovely time without them.

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:45

@Livinglifetoday SIL purposely didn’t invite MIL on their polar express trip this year because MIL and DGS are so close that he rejects his mum when Nana is there. They thought if MIL came to the polar express, he would sit on her lap the entire time and they wouldn’t get to experience that with him.

SIL told us that with MIL in the room. So I know that SIL will have mentioned it in passing that it’s his nativity, rather than urging her to go. However I know that MIL will not cancel this nativity because she’s now ‘committed’ - aka she would honestly just rather be there.

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Thighdentitycrisis · 20/11/2024 19:44

She is probably trying to keep everyone happy but she has to realise she can’t be in two places at once.

I would politely let her know you are hurt by her decision.

PinkPomelo · 20/11/2024 19:44

Is the SIL a madam?

Brinkley22 · 20/11/2024 19:40

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 16:21

I do want DD to have a good relationship with her GP’s, I had a great one with mine and it’s something I really cherished. I know I have to let this go, but I don’t want her thinking it hasn’t upset me at all, so I will be asking DH to at least have that conversation, as he would rather speak to her in person.

But as time goes on, if this continues to happen it will become obvious to DD and eventually I’ll have to explain why she’s choosing the other. I just hate the thought of her ever feeling second best.

With respect (and I genuinely don’t mean this harshly), are you projecting some of your stuff here? You seem really over- invested in trying to create a strong bond between MIL and your DD and to level this out as being equal with your MILs relationship with DGS.
My MIL massively favours her daughter’s children to our kids; they can do no wrong! Her daughter is the best mother in her eyes and I am a bit rubbish! She always shares pics and videos of her other grandkids and it is annoying! I think that this might be a ‘thing’; that some parents feel more connected when it’s their daughter (rather than their daughter in law) who has had the baby.
if I were you I would try to chill out and step back. Invest your energy elsewhere! Your DD will not feel second best if she feels valued by you and her daddy.

peanutmother · 20/11/2024 19:40

And the grandson is 3.5 years old? Not a school nativity?

It's a nursery nativity?

Oh now ive heard it all

HUGE eye roll

TheFairyCaravan · 20/11/2024 19:40

MyOpalViewer · 20/11/2024 19:31

Why doesn’t your mum have a “natural relationship” with your siblings?

So you assumed this rather than misunderstood? Because no where is this said

Edited

Well, if she had as much as a natural relationship with the poster and the siblings she wouldn’t be seeing more of one set of DGC she?

Herewegoagain84 · 20/11/2024 19:38

JustinThyme · 20/11/2024 14:28

I’m sorry, OP , and I completely understand you’re hurt. But I wouldn’t want to miss a nativity either. There are so few of them and schools are dropping them all
the time.

The local primary used to do nativities up to Y6. Then it was Y4, then KS1 and now it’s only Nursery and Reception. They are memories you keep forever.

I’m sure your DD will have a wonderful time and it will be lovely for you. Your in-laws will miss out on some that, yes, but there’s no reason you can’t enjoy it to the full.

Sure, but they already went to his nativity last year… so it’s not exactly a huge moment… also the kid is probably playing sheep number 3. Not sure these are memories of a lifetime….

peanutmother · 20/11/2024 19:38

Gummybear23 · 20/11/2024 14:17

I guess most people wouldn't want to miss a Nativity play.
It is rather special.
It not a go at you.

What? Their Grandchild?

Of course they can miss it

Error404pagenotfound · 20/11/2024 19:37

I really don’t understand the posters saying she’s trying to do both and she’s being nice!

She sat down and planned a day full of activities (and let the OP pay for them!) which included seeing Santa with her granddaughter, probably a nice lunch afterwards, and has cancelled those to go to her grandson’s nativity play.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 19:37

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 19:29

@thepariscrimefiles

I don’t think they are cancelling, I think they are planning to do both?

The highlight of the trip is the visit to see Santa as this will be the first time that OP's DD has seen him. This is an activity that was discussed with OP's MIL and FIL before OP booked and paid for it and they were all looking forward to it.

This event will take place while MIL is at the Nativity. The activity will go ahead but MIL and FIL won't be there to see their grand-daughter's delight at seeing Santa for the first time. They have already seen their grandson's Nativity last year. They are wasting OP's money and disappointing their grand-daughter.

Livinglifetoday · 20/11/2024 19:35

OP if you don't mind me asking, how can you be certain your sil isn't making your mil feel guilty for not attending the nativity & do you disagree she should be persuading your mil to attend your trip for the whole duration. It's what I would do in this situation but to be fair you know them best.

TheOnlyHonestOne · 20/11/2024 19:34

We have a similar situation with my mother-in-law. We could plan the most lavish events for her but if his brother had a sniff of needing a tiny bit of assistance from them, she would drop everything and run. I agree with what everyone else has said in that you need to express your dissatisfaction to her. I had a psychologist who once said if you don’t throw your toys out of the pram every now and then, people think you’re a pushover and don’t respect you. To be honest you could just completely lose your s**t and see what she did. She’d have to come crawling back wouldn’t she?

MyOpalViewer · 20/11/2024 19:31

TheFairyCaravan · 20/11/2024 19:23

I haven’t misunderstood. I know the poster wrote that their mother has a more natural relationship with them than with their DDIL or their siblings partners. But what about their siblings? Why doesn’t their mother have a more natural relationship with them? Why can’t their mother see them and their children as much? It just plays into the trope that if you’re a mother of boys you need to get used to not seeing your DGC because they will be off with their other granny who they will have a “more natural” relationship with .

Why doesn’t your mum have a “natural relationship” with your siblings?

So you assumed this rather than misunderstood? Because no where is this said

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 19:29

@thepariscrimefiles

I don’t think they are cancelling, I think they are planning to do both?

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:27

Unfortunately not, @LookingforMaryPoppins - it’s in 2 weeks and a midweek break, so most people are at work.

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LookingforMaryPoppins · 20/11/2024 19:26

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:14

Honestly it may be a blessing in disguise.. we were going to do Copenhagen Christmas markets next year and invite them, but we are absolutely going to invite my sister now instead 😂

Is your sister available this year?

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 19:24

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 18:38

@TheFairyCaravan

I see far more of my own mother than her daughter in law, and my children therefore do too.

Mum has a very natural relationship with me, but is more uncomfortable around my DP - or any of my siblings partners.

Rightly or wrongly, I think it’s the grandmum/the daughter that tend to be involved more in social situations etc.

That bond is typically going to be closer with the GM and her own daughter - plus the dynamics associated with this.

That said, I don’t think any grand children are loved less, it’s more about the social dynamics that play out between a GM and her daughter v’s daughter in law.

So would your mum cancel a planned meet up/event with one of your siblings partners and their child/children if you invited her to something after them?

TheFairyCaravan · 20/11/2024 19:23

MyOpalViewer · 20/11/2024 19:14

maybe you should reread this post @TheFairyCaravan you have misunderstood

Edited

I haven’t misunderstood. I know the poster wrote that their mother has a more natural relationship with them than with their DDIL or their siblings partners. But what about their siblings? Why doesn’t their mother have a more natural relationship with them? Why can’t their mother see them and their children as much? It just plays into the trope that if you’re a mother of boys you need to get used to not seeing your DGC because they will be off with their other granny who they will have a “more natural” relationship with .

MyOpalViewer · 20/11/2024 19:14

TheFairyCaravan · 20/11/2024 19:12

Why doesn’t your mum have a “natural relationship” with your siblings? Don’t say it’s because they’re boys, because that’s utterly ridiculous and complete bollocks. And if a result of your mother having a more “natural relationship” 🙄 with you that she prioritises your DC over her other DGC then it makes her not a very nice person imo.

maybe you should reread this post @TheFairyCaravan you have misunderstood

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:14

Honestly it may be a blessing in disguise.. we were going to do Copenhagen Christmas markets next year and invite them, but we are absolutely going to invite my sister now instead 😂

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TheFairyCaravan · 20/11/2024 19:12

BinkaCurse · 20/11/2024 18:38

@TheFairyCaravan

I see far more of my own mother than her daughter in law, and my children therefore do too.

Mum has a very natural relationship with me, but is more uncomfortable around my DP - or any of my siblings partners.

Rightly or wrongly, I think it’s the grandmum/the daughter that tend to be involved more in social situations etc.

That bond is typically going to be closer with the GM and her own daughter - plus the dynamics associated with this.

That said, I don’t think any grand children are loved less, it’s more about the social dynamics that play out between a GM and her daughter v’s daughter in law.

Why doesn’t your mum have a “natural relationship” with your siblings? Don’t say it’s because they’re boys, because that’s utterly ridiculous and complete bollocks. And if a result of your mother having a more “natural relationship” 🙄 with you that she prioritises your DC over her other DGC then it makes her not a very nice person imo.

friendlycat · 20/11/2024 19:10

Boredoutofmyhead · 20/11/2024 19:03

All the people on here who are trying to excuse the MIL awful behaviour.
If I book to go away with one of my friends,I don't ditch them when something else comes up.

This is the crux of it all. They made a commitment to you and your family and jointly selected activities for the one major day you are there for the whole day.

Now she’s saying something has come up that she’d prefer to attend on that one whole day and is prioritising the invitation that was issued after yours was accepted and agreed upon. It’s bad behaviour. She should honour your break that you’ve paid for.

I really would be tempted to say this isn’t going to work and cancel their trip.

PrettyParrot2012 · 20/11/2024 19:09

Please say to your DH that if MIL says"Oh, next time" in an attempt to smooth things, he's to say "No, we're not going to plan another family holiday like this - this has been really disappointing, so we don't want to try and plan another one". That might bring it home to her.

HazelLion · 20/11/2024 19:09

Do people actually give a shit about a nursery nativity? Sounds like a chore to me tbh. I'd be pissed off with MIL too.