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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

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MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 09:45

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BustingBaoBun · 21/11/2024 09:39

It's honestly like being asked to friends for a meal. As pre-dinner drinks are being served say you have been asked to someone else's house too and you are just going to pop there now, but you'll be back for dessert or coffee. Rude. And obvious to the hosts that you'd prefer to be at the other house for a few hours. I presume some on this thread would think that's OK!

Why on earth do people think it's OK for the Granny to sod off for 6 hours on the one full day that is being spent with Christmas activities agreed in advance between her and the family?

It's not about being torn, trying to please everyone blah blah. She has seen one nativity, the DGS is 3, there's no need to see another one and in doing so letting down her other grandchild.

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 09:38

@Bounty9 - the situation you find yourself in is pretty shitty to be honest. None of it is actually your doing. I’d make myself less available to these grandparents and when they ask point out the numbers of times you were available and then they changed plans at the last minute. Hold up a mirror to their behaviour.

I know you said you wanted your kids to have a relationship with them but I’d rather have a relationship with people who also want a relationship with them rather than someone who doesn’t and drops them when another offer pops in!

sonjadog · 21/11/2024 09:36

The more you write about her relationship with your nephew, the more I think you can be very glad that she isn't so involved with your daughter.

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 09:30

Well he’s gone to see his mum this morning, so we will see what comes of the conversation. I’ve accepted this is happening but I am still hurt about it, whether that’s right or wrong or my own issue. I’m surprised there are so many comments saying she’s trying to do both, or she’s stuck in a difficult position.. I’m not sure she really is. I just thought it’s common courtesy when you agree to go away with someone to actually be present on that trip. Maybe I was expecting too much of them in the first place.

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LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 09:27

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 20/11/2024 21:00

As a grandmother myself I would do the same as your MIL. I'd spend time with my granddaughter on holiday, slip away for a few hours to see my grandson because you can't miss a nativity play, then return to my granddaughter.

Why is that so bad?

Because you agreed to do ONE of those things and had it in your diary for months. Just because something new has popped up, you should say “Sorry DD, I can’t make DGS’s nativity this year as I’ll be away with DS,DiL and DGD instead. That’s a pity, please can you take loads of photos of the show for me so I can see DGS later?”

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 09:24

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 21:52

The huge irony and maybe sad part of this is that MIL doesn't speak to her own mum because she played favourites with DH's cousins when they were all little. I'm not sure how she can't see it's playing out exactly the same - before any of us had children she swore blind she would never let that happen.

I hope your DH references that when he’s speaking to her today about the plans.

You’ve paid for them to join you, right? Can you get some of that money back at all?

mrsnjw · 21/11/2024 09:24

Ahhh, I feel sorry for the grandma. He is so obviously trying to keep everyone happy. She must feel caught between a rock and a hard place. To be honest I'd let her come and let this one go. Is it really worth another fallout? Grandmothers are by nature closer to their own daughter's children and vast majority of the time. I'd be thankful that she is really trying to have a relationship with you and dd.

C8H10N4O2 · 21/11/2024 09:23

Tandora · 21/11/2024 09:14

Also OP’s DD won’t even know or care if grandma goes off for a few hours. She’ll still love meeting Santa. This is about OP.

If three year olds don't care if DGM is there to visit Father Christmas they they don't care if they are present at their second nativity either.

However you spin it its incredibly rude to accept an expensive gift, all arranged with you for your enjoyment and then sod off for the core part. The OP and DH probably have better things to do with their money.

Have you really read all the OP posts including the posts about the DGM weird behaviour which causes the SiL concerns as well? It is not normal and its not healthy. Its not about being "competitive" its about wanting a healthy environment for children - golden child behaviours are rarely healthy for the children.

BeardieWeirdie · 21/11/2024 09:15

What an utterly shit granny she is your daughter for constantly rejecting her - and to her grandson for effectively stealing him from her own daughter. I’d have to have a bottle of wine with SIL and find out what she thinks about her own mother destroying her relationship with her son.

Have more than a word with her - tell her that her behaviour to her lovely little granddaughter is disgraceful. If she’s upset, well the truth hurts.

Tandora · 21/11/2024 09:14

Tandora · 21/11/2024 09:09

I have read the OP’s posts? Honestly I think it’s very common- the overwhelming norm? That GPs are closer to some DGCs than others- often it’s the DCs of their daughters (for reasons that make total sense if you read mumsnet!), as long as the GP is still loving and the relationship close (which OP says it is) I don’t think it does children any harm at all . It’s GPs not parents . It’s just the nature of human relationships that some extended family relationships / friendships are closer than others, but they don’t need to detract from each other. Comparison and competitiveness does no one any good.

Also OP’s DD won’t even know or care if grandma goes off for a few hours. She’ll still love meeting Santa. This is about OP.

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 09:13

How is your relationship with your husband OP?

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/11/2024 09:12

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 09:10

this is preschool / nursery

Ah sorry. But I suspect it will have long been organised, even so. DD's nativity was in the function room of local sports club to allow space for parents.

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 09:10

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/11/2024 09:08

Will have been in the school calendar since the beginning of term, likely. Source: Retired School Teacher. These things are organised months in advance.

this is preschool / nursery

Tandora · 21/11/2024 09:09

C8H10N4O2 · 21/11/2024 08:39

Or you could read the OP posts:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5213989-its-a-mil-one-stop-me-before-i-say-something-ill-regret?postsby=Bounty9

Your argument seems to sit between "I was beaten and it didn't do me any harm" and "I was alright Jack".

Even the SiL isn't happy with the situation and none of this detracts from the sheer bloody rudeness of accepting an expensive trip including a "first" for her granddaughter - a trip arranged with the MiL in mind - and then sodding off for the main day and missing her granddaughter's "first". Its rude and selfish and you may have not cared but it can cause real upset for children.

I have read the OP’s posts? Honestly I think it’s very common- the overwhelming norm? That GPs are closer to some DGCs than others- often it’s the DCs of their daughters (for reasons that make total sense if you read mumsnet!), as long as the GP is still loving and the relationship close (which OP says it is) I don’t think it does children any harm at all . It’s GPs not parents . It’s just the nature of human relationships that some extended family relationships / friendships are closer than others, but they don’t need to detract from each other. Comparison and competitiveness does no one any good.

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/11/2024 09:08

Alwayslurkingsometimesposting · 20/11/2024 14:30

I kind of agree with this! But don't want to invalidate you OP as you say she's shown blatant favouritism before- what did that look like in the past? Giving her the benefit of the doubt, was she just more invested in her DGC at that time as he's older and she'd had more time to bond? It sounds like her bond with your dd is growing very nicely if your dd adores her so it would be a shame to spoil that with bad feelings. This has been in the diary for months but the nativity date will have only just recently been announced so she'll be feeling torn I imagine.

Will have been in the school calendar since the beginning of term, likely. Source: Retired School Teacher. These things are organised months in advance.

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/11/2024 09:07

Gummybear23 · 20/11/2024 14:17

I guess most people wouldn't want to miss a Nativity play.
It is rather special.
It not a go at you.

Unless DGS is Joseph or singing a solo, there's no reason for them to be there. Just ask someone to video it. Unlikely DGS will worry either way. I'd be fed up if I were DGD's parents and stop even trying.

C8H10N4O2 · 21/11/2024 09:02

thepariscrimefiles · 21/11/2024 08:56

Some posters are twisting themselves into pretzels to find a way to absolve MIL from any responsibility or blame for priotising her grandson over her grand-daughter.

And willfully ignoring the damage which can be done to all the children in this situation - not just the "second class" children. Golden child can be just as damaged by these skewed relationships. In this scenario I also feel very sorry for the SiL dealing with both the direct fall out in the wider family and the sibling favouritism which will play out at home. It rapidly becomes very undermining as a parent.

For the OP best advice is just to step back from arranging things and just nod and smile when they have to congregate as a wider family.

kittybiscuits · 21/11/2024 08:56

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 20/11/2024 21:00

As a grandmother myself I would do the same as your MIL. I'd spend time with my granddaughter on holiday, slip away for a few hours to see my grandson because you can't miss a nativity play, then return to my granddaughter.

Why is that so bad?

They booked activities to do together all day including OP's DC's first visit to father Christmas and instead, PILs are disappearing for 6 hours, all day, on the only full day of the trip. It's really not rocket science to know why that would be a problem.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/11/2024 08:56

C8H10N4O2 · 21/11/2024 08:39

Or you could read the OP posts:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5213989-its-a-mil-one-stop-me-before-i-say-something-ill-regret?postsby=Bounty9

Your argument seems to sit between "I was beaten and it didn't do me any harm" and "I was alright Jack".

Even the SiL isn't happy with the situation and none of this detracts from the sheer bloody rudeness of accepting an expensive trip including a "first" for her granddaughter - a trip arranged with the MiL in mind - and then sodding off for the main day and missing her granddaughter's "first". Its rude and selfish and you may have not cared but it can cause real upset for children.

Some posters are twisting themselves into pretzels to find a way to absolve MIL from any responsibility or blame for priotising her grandson over her grand-daughter.

Amberjane41 · 21/11/2024 08:56

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 21:43

For those doubting my details.. we were going to arrive Tues - MIL looks after DGS on a Tuesday morning so meeting there in the afternoon, spending some time together, going for dinner and on the main day is the activities - meeting father christmas in the morning, lunch, then in the afternoon you gather round firepits, toast marshmallows, sing carols, father christmas comes in on his sleigh, there's elves, probably some fake snow chucked in there somewhere, magical - etc etc. Then wake up Thurs, breakfast, maybe a quick swim and back on the road. It was a short break - yes, but was just meant to be a few days with them that we rarely get. They will miss the morning and most of the afternoon, and tbh who knows if they will even be back for 4:30.

BUT after 19 pages of this thread, I've realised that nativities are really bloody important to some people, and that MIL is actually a bit nuts and I shouldn't care about her opinion as much as I do.

Your MIL is an extremely lucky woman and I think she is behaving horribly. She has made plans with you and she should stick to them.

This post actually made me feel really sad. I would modify this and send it to her. Explain all the things that you were looking forward to her doing with her grandchild and how disappointed you are that she’s now not going to be there. Fuck being polite! She should know how she has made you feel and send it from you not your husband. I’d even probably go as far as to say I know you’ve always favoured the eldest but just thought for once you might have put her first. I’d be polite but I wouldn’t hold back and I would say to her not to bother coming now as it will just making it confusing for your DD and sad for you and your DH

godmum56 · 21/11/2024 08:49

thepariscrimefiles · 21/11/2024 04:56

So you would cancel pre-arranged plans with another grandchild to attend your grandson's nativity?

OP's MIL is both bad mannered and unkind.

yup, as i keep saying. Its the height of bad manners to blow off an accepted invitation for a "better offer"

C8H10N4O2 · 21/11/2024 08:39

Tandora · 21/11/2024 08:33

Mumsnet is so unhealthy sometimes. So many posters egging OP on in her jealousy and competitiveness over SIL’s child. Yes these things can hurt if your child isn’t the favourite one, but these are the realities of human relationships and there’s nothing to be gained from indulging the green eyed monster. MIL is allowed her relationship with her DGS and that is separate from her relationship with DGD. Sounds like she does genuinely love them both, albeit she has a special closeness to her DD’s eldest. This is not uncommon.

Or you could read the OP posts:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5213989-its-a-mil-one-stop-me-before-i-say-something-ill-regret?postsby=Bounty9

Your argument seems to sit between "I was beaten and it didn't do me any harm" and "I was alright Jack".

Even the SiL isn't happy with the situation and none of this detracts from the sheer bloody rudeness of accepting an expensive trip including a "first" for her granddaughter - a trip arranged with the MiL in mind - and then sodding off for the main day and missing her granddaughter's "first". Its rude and selfish and you may have not cared but it can cause real upset for children.

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Tandora · 21/11/2024 08:33

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 06:33

yes that’s how i see it
but others seem to think it’s evidence she’s the devil incarnate

Mumsnet is so unhealthy sometimes. So many posters egging OP on in her jealousy and competitiveness over SIL’s child. Yes these things can hurt if your child isn’t the favourite one, but these are the realities of human relationships and there’s nothing to be gained from indulging the green eyed monster. MIL is allowed her relationship with her DGS and that is separate from her relationship with DGD. Sounds like she does genuinely love them both, albeit she has a special closeness to her DD’s eldest. This is not uncommon.

ThePoshUns · 21/11/2024 08:10

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 21/11/2024 05:47

Sounds like she’s trying to stretch herself to keep everyone happy.

I don't see that at all, she is prioritising her DGS above everyone else.