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It's a MIL one - stop me before I say something I'll regret

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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 21/11/2024 12:39

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/11/2024 12:34

This.

She sounds like she's trying her best for both her grandkids. A nativity is a big thing to miss. Cut her some slack.

I wish my dc had a grandmother that cared enough to drive backwards n forwards like this.

So she can still keep claiming that she "treats all her Grandchildren the same" when everyone knows its not true?

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 21/11/2024 12:39

Projectme · 21/11/2024 12:28

"She said she feels bad - she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped." - It's a shame your DH didn't challenge her and say 'but it can be helped mum can't it; by you honouring your agreement to come on the break that we've paid for'.

Why are you seeing her on Monday? Surely you have had a 'better offer' by now OP and it's far more important that you do your 'better offer' than to see her? 😉🤔

I agree with this. Let her have a taste of her own medicine. There's no way I'd let her off lightly with this - just like with children she needs to understand there are consequences for poor behaviour. She'd love you to brush it under the carpet so she can continue with her selfish, batshit behaviour and think everyone is OK with it.
You're a much nicer person than me @Bounty9 I'd be raging.

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/11/2024 12:34

NewPinkJacket · 20/11/2024 14:19

Ahh I feel sorry for her.

She sounds like a committed gran who's trying her best to be fair, but being pulled in two different directions on this occasion.

If she's happy to do the trip, let her do it and just be happy she cares enough about both grandchildren, to want to please them both.

This.

She sounds like she's trying her best for both her grandkids. A nativity is a big thing to miss. Cut her some slack.

I wish my dc had a grandmother that cared enough to drive backwards n forwards like this.

MeridianB · 21/11/2024 12:30

She said she feels bad - she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped.

"Can't be helped" tells you everything you need to know. She puts her wants first and always will. She had a golden chance to change her ways after the holiday, esp given your update on her own experience with her mother. She could change. She just doesn't want to. This would make me leave her to it.

Projectme · 21/11/2024 12:28

"She said she feels bad - she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped." - It's a shame your DH didn't challenge her and say 'but it can be helped mum can't it; by you honouring your agreement to come on the break that we've paid for'.

Why are you seeing her on Monday? Surely you have had a 'better offer' by now OP and it's far more important that you do your 'better offer' than to see her? 😉🤔

ThePoshUns · 21/11/2024 12:27

BustingBaoBun · 21/11/2024 11:37

When they do leave to make the 1.5 hour journey to see DGS in his nativity, I honestly would barely look up from what I was doing. I would not make it easy with 'safe journey, see you at 5pm' or whatever.

Same and I wouldn't ask after the nativity when she returns.
As for the posters saying mothers are naturally more close to their daughters children, the OP has done all she can to have a balance between parents and in laws. I dint have daughters so I sincerely hope that my DILs will be as thoughtful as you are when I become a GP

Hoppinggreen · 21/11/2024 12:11

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 11:56

I think I keep coming back and giving her the benefit of the doubt because we had such a lovely relationship for almost 9 years. She supported me through some really difficult times and was practically a second mum to me. Myself, SIL and MIL were all really close and spent a lot of time together. Unfortunately having children has completely changed this dynamic and I have to try and come to terms with the fact we won’t ever get back there, especially now.

I get you OP
MIL was great, so helpful with DD and showed me how to be a great Mum BUT as soon as SIL had her child it was like a switch was flicked and DD was shunted aside. I had DS around the same time and I was expected to help SIL as well as we lived closer at that point than MIL. Then SIL got pg again very quickly and DD and DS were even less interesting to her, especially once they moved into a house MIL owned on the same street.
MIL likes people to need her, she's got a hero complex and my self sufficiency seems like an insult to her.

Hoppinggreen · 21/11/2024 12:06

Lucielastik · 21/11/2024 12:00

If she is that close to her grandson it is quite likely that he is expecting, and looking forward to them being there to watch and she doesn’t want to disappoint him, that is probably why she is sticking to her plan.

But she can disappoint her Grand daughter instead?

LookingforMaryPoppins · 21/11/2024 12:05

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 11:56

I think I keep coming back and giving her the benefit of the doubt because we had such a lovely relationship for almost 9 years. She supported me through some really difficult times and was practically a second mum to me. Myself, SIL and MIL were all really close and spent a lot of time together. Unfortunately having children has completely changed this dynamic and I have to try and come to terms with the fact we won’t ever get back there, especially now.

There is no doubt to give her the benefit of.

Please don't let her spoil your break with this ridiculous plan.

Lucielastik · 21/11/2024 12:00

If she is that close to her grandson it is quite likely that he is expecting, and looking forward to them being there to watch and she doesn’t want to disappoint him, that is probably why she is sticking to her plan.

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 11:56

I think I keep coming back and giving her the benefit of the doubt because we had such a lovely relationship for almost 9 years. She supported me through some really difficult times and was practically a second mum to me. Myself, SIL and MIL were all really close and spent a lot of time together. Unfortunately having children has completely changed this dynamic and I have to try and come to terms with the fact we won’t ever get back there, especially now.

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LadyGabriella · 21/11/2024 11:55

She said “it can’t be helped.” That would really annoy me. Yes it can be helped by her choosing to honour the original plans she made. Plus the boys parents can go to the nativity, and she went last year.

friendlycat · 21/11/2024 11:51

That must really grate that she thinks it can't be helped, because obviously it can be helped and she has made an active choice to disrespect her commitment to you and your child.

However, having read your updates she really is quite unhinged about this first grandson of hers and her inappropriate behaviour. Your SIL must find it all rather trying as well even though she is her daughter.

You're being very pragmatic about it all which is good of you. She will be the loser with all of this in the long run. She constantly shows you her true colours and you can only go forward making your own plans that don't involve her in things like this break in the future.

Projectme · 21/11/2024 11:40

answeringtheQ · 20/11/2024 14:30

She hasn't 'unintentionally double booked herself' tho has she - if you've had this trip planned since the summer, there is no way they would have had the nativity dates then, she's obviously just found out the nativity dates and decided to prioritise that. Given she went to the nativity last year too, and clearly had this trip planned first, I would be furious.

Does she get a lot of pressure from SIL to attend stuff like this? Our nativity is always 2 people per child so is always me and DP.

posted without reading all your updates OP, so I've deleted my post.

BustingBaoBun · 21/11/2024 11:37

When they do leave to make the 1.5 hour journey to see DGS in his nativity, I honestly would barely look up from what I was doing. I would not make it easy with 'safe journey, see you at 5pm' or whatever.

LookingforMaryPoppins · 21/11/2024 11:32

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 10:38

So I've heard back from DH. Apparently the first thing she asked was - was I upset as I seemed it in my messages.. he said we are both upset and disappointed she will be missing out on activities we had planned as a group and we were looking forward to her involvement in. She said she feels bad - she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped.

Honestly, I'd rather that than her cancel and be sat there wishing she was somewhere else. Yes, it does hurt but I think this has just cemented where we stand. At least now we know for the future and it's become apparent early on. We certainly won't be inviting them away again, but will make the most of our break regardless!

On a brighter note, DD woke up to snow this morning and was bouncing off the walls excited. This time of year is so much more special with a little one to share it with.

It absolutely can be helped! MIL has accepted an expensive gift and is choosing to let you down because she has a better offer (in her opinion). Rude, entitled and appalling behaviour. If you accept an invitation you are committed, regardless of receiving a "better" offer.

I agree there is no point them going and wanting to be elsewhere, on that basis I honestly believe they shouldn't come at all.

Can you cancel their part of the trip and get a refund / invite others. It may be mid week but people often have holiday to use up at this time of year, you may be pleasantly surprised. It may also be possible to amend the booking to 3 - certainly worth enquiring.

Even if you can't get a refund / amend the booking / replace them, the trip will be far better if they don't come. The only whole day you have will be disrupted by their leaving / returning and then invariably telling you all about the nativity 🤦‍♀️

Don't put yourself in that position, enjoy the break as a family and DONT ever invite them again.

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 11:28

When you see her on Monday, I'd make it crystal clear that when she is with you and her son and your child, she is not to talk about the nativity or anything at all to do with SiL or their child or their family because that means that she isn't 100% present with you and enjoying the trip that you (and your DH) paid for for them. Not a word. Any forms of comparison between the grandchildren - off the table. Complaints about feeling tired due to the amount of driving - off the table, anything at all that could be connected to their decision to try to appease both sets of parents - off the table.

She and FiL are there to spend time with you and take part in the events for your daughter and I'd make it very clear that if she feels that she can't do that, then you don't want her there any more. FiL is welcome to stay, but her, not so much.

Rainbow1901 · 21/11/2024 11:25

Would Pa In law go with you and leave MIL to her own plans? He sounds much more reasonable about everything.

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 11:19

BustingBaoBun · 21/11/2024 10:41

she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped

It totally can be helped. She doesn't have to go to the Nativity of a 3yo when she went last year.

OP you sound sensible and philosophical about it all and I am sure you will have a great time with your little DD. The GPs are bonkers doing a 3 hour round trip for this

100% this.

It can't be helped...remember that phrase. Exactly as she has said it to you because you just know it will come in very handy when she asks you to do something. "Oh...sorry MiL, it can't be helped."

It most certainly can be helped.

Anyway - at least the one thing that has come out of this situation is that your DH can now see how his own mother is playing favourites with her children and subsequent grandchildren so the gloves (so to speak) are off for anything that might happen in the future.

DuckDuck1234 · 21/11/2024 11:16

OP, I really admire how you've tried to foster a good relationship between DD and MIL. I think grandparents and the wider family circle in general can have such a hugely positive role in a child's upbringing.

That said, if DD is blatantly being passed over then I can see the whole thing becoming toxic for her instead.

Have you considered focusing your energies on SIL? Try to see her often (without MIL!) and encourage a close relationship between all the cousins?

As to the trip, I would be tempted to dis-invite MIL and either get my money back or give the tickets to friends. Polite visits over lunch or just a quick coffee might be the way to go in future.

DowntonNabby · 21/11/2024 11:11

Also, has anyone pointed out to her that she's repeating history with how her mother treated her grandchildren?

Apolloneuro · 21/11/2024 11:11

Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 19:55

@Brinkley22 yes I 100% think she sees him as her baby. Her youngest son has just moved out and she’s really struggled with that, and I think DGS is filling that gap. DD doesn’t go to her in the same way, she will come to me if she’s upset/scared/hurt herself whereas DGS will go to MIL and shouts ‘no’ when his mum comes near.

I think that’s really unhealthy and incredibly selfish of your MIL. She’s had her babies. A strong, loving relationship of course, but this sounds creepy.

Hoppinggreen · 21/11/2024 11:11

My Mil has been threatening to die for around 10 years now (including at MY Mothers funeral) but theres no sign of it.
Obviously I don't actually wish her dead (honest) by the emotional blackmail is wearing, especially since she knows it doesn't work on me so she targets DH and The DC.
I hope you manage to have a nice break anyway OP and I might just arrange to be off somewhere on site having fun with my phone off when they are due back.

DowntonNabby · 21/11/2024 11:10

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 10:47

@TVwontwork no, he wouldn’t say that because I know him, absolutely hates confrontation even when they are clearly wrong. However, I will be seeing MIL on Monday and I’m not sure I’ll be able to put on such a happy front!

I would tell her on Monday she doesn't need to bother coming, because the clash IS avoidable – it's just her choosing to prioritise DGS. You also know that if she does come, she'll just bang on about him and the nativity the entire time and be too distracted to give your DD the attention she deserves for a change. I wouldn't soft-soap it either – I'd be as blunt as hell.

LurkingFromTheShadows · 21/11/2024 11:08

Since there is a history there, of course it's favouritism. Can't be that good grandparents if they're favouring one grandchild over the other. Pil should be bloody happy you are still inviting them away after open and blatant favouritism.