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It's a MIL one - stop me before I say something I'll regret

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Bounty9 · 20/11/2024 14:15

I'll start out by saying DH and I have been together for 12 years and I had a wonderful relationship with MIL before kids got thrown into the mix.

SIL had her little boy 3.5 years ago and he was the centre of the universe, understandably. We then had DD 1 year later and honestly, she paled in comparison in MIL eyes - there has been obvious favouritism the entire time, and it's been pretty exhausting, ending in quite a big argument last September on a big family holiday, which marked the end of group holidays. But bridges have been rebuilt and we basically stopped doing things as a large group, and encouraged 1:1 time with MIL and DD instead, which was going well, DD adores her.

We decided this year to book a 3 day getaway, me, DH and DD and invite MIL and FIL and pay for them as a thank you for all the holidays they've taken us on over the years. it's a centre parcs break. We are travelling up, staying one full day and then travelling back. It's about a 1.5 hour drive. This has been in the diary since summer, and we all knew the dates.

MIL has text me today to say she has 'unintentionally' double booked and it's DGS nativity play on the only full day we are there, so they are going to drive back for it in the morning, and then come back in the evening - essentially they will be gone for 6 hours. We'd booked a santa visit, lunch etc that and I'm bloody hurt that she couldn't just say no this time.

I know it doesn't matter. DD is going to have the best time, we are going to have lovely family time, but ffs just when you think she can't let you down again.

AIBU to feel upset about this? I haven't replied yet. I want to just say forget it, don't come if you're going to miss half the trip and activities, but DH thinks we should just let them do as they please and not let it spoil our time.

OP posts:
SophiaCohle · 21/11/2024 14:46

It's a great shame so many wet wipe DH's leave it to their wives to express any discontent where their mothers are concerned. It's no wonder MIL/DIL relationships are so fraught.

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 14:45

Imperrysmum · 21/11/2024 14:20

I honestly couldn’t bare a man who wouldn’t stand up to his mum because “he doesn’t like confrontation 🥺” ….not to he rude but has he been castrated? What sort of response is that from an adult man. & he is happy for you to be upset, but not his mum?

I am also struggling with you insisting MIL “isn’t a bad person” when she is so clearly playing favourites and probably damaging your DD’s self esteem. Perhaps all of the help she gave you prior has given you some form of stockholm syndrome, but she is NOT a nice person.

me neither

i wonder how happy the op is about going on holiday alone with him?!

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 14:41

Imperrysmum · 21/11/2024 14:20

I honestly couldn’t bare a man who wouldn’t stand up to his mum because “he doesn’t like confrontation 🥺” ….not to he rude but has he been castrated? What sort of response is that from an adult man. & he is happy for you to be upset, but not his mum?

I am also struggling with you insisting MIL “isn’t a bad person” when she is so clearly playing favourites and probably damaging your DD’s self esteem. Perhaps all of the help she gave you prior has given you some form of stockholm syndrome, but she is NOT a nice person.

“Not to be rude but has he been castrated?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 14:38

MinnieMouse200 · 20/11/2024 23:22

Am I the only one to think the part in the nativity play is relevant? Mary/Joseph, I get where she is coming from. Third sheep less so 😂

Third sheep, lol! 🤣 Is that a thing??

Tandora · 21/11/2024 14:25

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 14:23

DH says he doesn’t see it as much as I do and isn’t upset by it. When there was the fall out last year and I was genuinely upset (as was he), he did stand up and speak to her and put boundaries in place - since then we’ve not really spoken about it until now and he did speak to her this morning. But not in the way I probably would’ve, hence I’m going to speak to her Monday.

DH says he doesn’t see it as much as I do and isn’t upset by it

key.

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 14:23

DH says he doesn’t see it as much as I do and isn’t upset by it. When there was the fall out last year and I was genuinely upset (as was he), he did stand up and speak to her and put boundaries in place - since then we’ve not really spoken about it until now and he did speak to her this morning. But not in the way I probably would’ve, hence I’m going to speak to her Monday.

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Imperrysmum · 21/11/2024 14:20

I honestly couldn’t bare a man who wouldn’t stand up to his mum because “he doesn’t like confrontation 🥺” ….not to he rude but has he been castrated? What sort of response is that from an adult man. & he is happy for you to be upset, but not his mum?

I am also struggling with you insisting MIL “isn’t a bad person” when she is so clearly playing favourites and probably damaging your DD’s self esteem. Perhaps all of the help she gave you prior has given you some form of stockholm syndrome, but she is NOT a nice person.

MyOpalViewer · 21/11/2024 14:11

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 10:47

@TVwontwork no, he wouldn’t say that because I know him, absolutely hates confrontation even when they are clearly wrong. However, I will be seeing MIL on Monday and I’m not sure I’ll be able to put on such a happy front!

even knowing that his wife is unhappy?

Imperrysmum · 21/11/2024 14:09

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 13:55

Booking my place for Monday!! 🍿

Best of luck @Bounty9

Sits down next to LookItsMeAgain 🍿🥤

outerspacepotato · 21/11/2024 14:02

You could get a little bell and whenever she starts going on and on about GS instead of being present with you all, ring it and tell her Be Here Now Lois.

Kind of kidding, kind of not. Ring dingaling.

I grew up with a dynamic like this, favoritism to one golden grand child. It's not healthy for the family, it's very damaging to be taught to care for a grandparent yet be rejected for another gc over and over. Your MIL is parenting over her own daughter to the point where the child is going to her instead of his own mom. She is breaking the maternal child bond to insert herself and that's toxic. I'd back away a mile if I were you and see her very very little.

LookItsMeAgain · 21/11/2024 13:55

Booking my place for Monday!! 🍿

Best of luck @Bounty9

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 13:55

Haha I will be back on Monday I promise! DH won’t be with me, I’m flying solo and I will not be contained 😂

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allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 21/11/2024 13:50

@Bounty9 please remember to come back and update us after you have seen her on monday! if it was me, I would not be seeing her at all, ever!! she has made her choice. wonder what would happen if both grandchildren were to have their nativities at the same time at different venues??? we all know the answer to that one!

AliAtHome · 21/11/2024 13:31

Your mother in law needs a reality check. Tell she has not double booked, she accepted an invitation to come away with DGD - and that to renege now would be sending the wrong message to BOTH her GC (in terms of the right thing to do - don’t bring in the favouritism element). Explain that with multiple GC (maybe more in the future) she may be faced with this type of situation again so setting a fair precedent now will be good. Let her know how important it is to you and your family to have special time with GP - which was why you planned this with them. Tell her that you understand she may feel torn and she is of course free to choose any invites she wants - but, before she makes a final decision, you wanted her to be clear about how this decision could impact how she deals with future conflicting requests.

NB: she should perhaps think of a clear plan e.g accepted invite obvious, GC ‘firsts’ priority and emergency trumps. She’s very lucky to be so loved and in demand

doodleschnoodle · 21/11/2024 13:06

And come on, it's a nursery nativity, he's not starring in a West End show. They'll all stand there forgetting what they're doing, sing an off-key song and that's it. Lovely for parents, but not exactly a must-do for anyone else. Our nursery has done a few shows and grandparents only come if parents are unable anyway.

doodleschnoodle · 21/11/2024 13:04

Some weird replies here!

They will both be gone for six hours on the only actual day of the holiday. It's bonkers. I'd just tell them not to bother coming as it's just silly.

They don't need to be present at every event for their first grandchild. It's okay for them to miss out occasionally because they are doing something with their other grandchild. But this way second grandchild misses out so first grandchild doesn't have to.

They'd accepted an invitation, all they need to do is say sorry they can't make it this year but look forward to seeing a pic or whatever and spend the time with their other grandchild.

Sorry, OP, it sounds tough to deal with. Favourites are awful.

SeAmableSiempre · 21/11/2024 13:01

Photodilemmas · 21/11/2024 12:47

This is what I'd do.

Yes, I’d do that too!

SeAmableSiempre · 21/11/2024 12:59

Bounty9 · 21/11/2024 09:30

Well he’s gone to see his mum this morning, so we will see what comes of the conversation. I’ve accepted this is happening but I am still hurt about it, whether that’s right or wrong or my own issue. I’m surprised there are so many comments saying she’s trying to do both, or she’s stuck in a difficult position.. I’m not sure she really is. I just thought it’s common courtesy when you agree to go away with someone to actually be present on that trip. Maybe I was expecting too much of them in the first place.

Your expectations are NOT too high, and take no notice of posts that are empathetic towards MIL, they clearly have no idea how to place themselves in your shoes. I would be hurt too in your position. MIL is blatantly favouring DGS and has no thought for the impact this has on you or your DH and your DD, how dare she throw kindness in your face after you have paid for them to spend time with you all as a family. What a kick in the guts. Frankly I wouldn’t want her in my life.
I do empathise, my MIL had no time for our children, she barely had a conversation with them, then years later when they were all grown up and FIL passed away she decided she needed us… too late, the damage was done.

Amberjane41 · 21/11/2024 12:54

She sounds like a very toxic woman. You said she was nice to you in the past. I suspect that was all about her and not about you. Why is everyone so scared to tell her how they feel? The controlling thing with the other grandchild is weird too. Does she always get her own way? What happens if she doesn’t? Why is everyone so scared to tell her what they think? I’d use this as an opportunity to cut contact to a minimum if I were you. There is no way I’d let her treat my family like this. (Hope that didn’t sound harsh, you sound very nice by the way and know it’s easier said than done but I’m actually furious on your behalf!)

Photodilemmas · 21/11/2024 12:47

Brefugee · 20/11/2024 14:26

I didn't care if I upset my MIL in answer to her upsetting Mr, DH or the DC's.

I'd tell her not to bother coming to Centre Parcs and to enjoy the nativity play.

Then dial right back and let her do the running - or not - to see DD

This is what I'd do.

DowntonNabby · 21/11/2024 12:45

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/11/2024 12:34

This.

She sounds like she's trying her best for both her grandkids. A nativity is a big thing to miss. Cut her some slack.

I wish my dc had a grandmother that cared enough to drive backwards n forwards like this.

She attended DGS' nativity last year – and it's a nursery, so will barely last 15 mins if experience is anything to go by. This year she had committed to going away with DGD. If she was doing her best for both grandkids, she'd stick to the trip this time and do another treat with DGS at another time.

godmum56 · 21/11/2024 12:45

BettyBardMacDonald · 21/11/2024 12:41

It can be helped.

When you see her, don't placate her.

Personally I'd disinvite them. Otherwise you'll be revolving the entire break around their schedule.

And I'd say "Please yourself, MIL, but this won't soon be forgotten."

well this needn't happen. they can just do what they had planned to do and if the in laws can't join in....well it can't be helped.

Codlingmoths · 21/11/2024 12:44

Are you sure something with a friend hasn’t come up for Monday? Sorry mil, it’s unfortunate but can’t be helped. I know there’s no way I could hide my feelings so I’d have to hugely step back and be brutally honest. ‘Dds dance show is next weekend we are so looking forward to it!’ ‘Oh I’d like to go!’ ‘Oh sorry mil we’ve bought the tickets. We thought about asking you but places are limited, you never know what might come up with dnephew so thought better leave it.’

godmum56 · 21/11/2024 12:44

Projectme · 21/11/2024 12:28

"She said she feels bad - she understands why we're upset but essentially it can't be helped." - It's a shame your DH didn't challenge her and say 'but it can be helped mum can't it; by you honouring your agreement to come on the break that we've paid for'.

Why are you seeing her on Monday? Surely you have had a 'better offer' by now OP and it's far more important that you do your 'better offer' than to see her? 😉🤔

yup....because of course it can't be helped.

BettyBardMacDonald · 21/11/2024 12:41

It can be helped.

When you see her, don't placate her.

Personally I'd disinvite them. Otherwise you'll be revolving the entire break around their schedule.

And I'd say "Please yourself, MIL, but this won't soon be forgotten."