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"stop being silly"

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AliceAbsolum · 20/11/2024 13:34

MIL has DD (21 months) 2 days a week. She's really good with her overall. BUT she doesn't share my (very high) gentle parenting standards.
She rarely takes DD out so by 5pm she's running around the house with loads of energy and MIL will often tell her to stop being so silly.
Or if she's crying she'll say don't cry, don't be upset.

Now maybe I'm being a batshit pfb. Highly likely.
But basically I'm worried DDs being invalidated and it'll impact her mental health in the future.

I don't intend to say anything obviously. It's just hard to hand your child over to your village.

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 20/11/2024 19:48

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 18:00

I noticed whenever my MIL has looked after my kids they never ever go out. Not to the park or a soft play or anything. And I figure out MIL (late 60’s now) is probably in pain and tired far more than she lets on, and she’s always cold too. She is a free “service” when we need her and a cherished granny, I’d never dream of bossing her around like that.

But this surely isn’t ideal regular childcare, two days a week? A child just stuck in the house all day and told off when she’s understandably climbing the walls by late afternoon?

As an occasional emergency, ok - but not regular childcare.

SD1978 · 20/11/2024 19:43

Yes you're being bat shit. You want to do things a certain way, great. If your MIL doesn't align with your standards, stop using her for free childcare. Otherwise accept that not everyone agrees with your approach and will parent the way they think is appropriate

spuddy4 · 20/11/2024 19:42

Threads like this always explain to me why the 18 year olds I manage can't handle the workplace. Gentle parenting is setting kids up to fail in the real world. I've got one that cries at least once a week, another who's mother regularly phones because her son has had to do work he doesn't want to do and two who have anxiety and can't deal with customers. You need to install some sort of resilience into your child because she's going to struggle if she goes to uni/work. Your MIL comes from a different generation and probably thinks gentle parenting is a joke (like most of us). Saying don't be silly isn't going to harm her, she's not smacking or mistreating her. If you don't like it then maybe you should give up work and care for her yourself because that's the only way you'll ensure your daughter is being looked after the way you want.

Uricon2 · 20/11/2024 19:40

FierceQuiet · 20/11/2024 17:21

I don't know. I'm 52 and am in therapy, dealing with the lingering, but serious, aftereffects of the kind of childhood where children were shown on a daily basis that they were not the centre of the universe. Without being actively abusive, it was an incredibly damaging way to grow up, and that was in part because my parents had also come from families with still more entrenched 'children should just get on with whatever' views.

Obviously don't know the ins and outs of your childhood but one younger sibling has (properly diagnosed) C-PTSD from the upbringing that we had. It wasn't caused by telling a toddler to "stop being silly", believe me.

Children need to be safe, secure and protected but they aren't the centre of the universe and to make them think that they are is also incredibly damaging, because they will soon find out that they really aren't.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/11/2024 19:24

Good lord. And people wonder why there's a behaviour crisis in schools. They are half full of kids whose parents don't give a shit and half full of kids whose parents were probably too scared of ever telling them off in case it damaged their mental health. Seriously, you can't truly believe that 'being silly' is some kind of terrible accusation to level at a child?!

Aria999 · 20/11/2024 19:23

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 20/11/2024 19:16

Have a second baby. That will solve it. As you won't care less what your MIL does and you'll be shouting "Stop being silly!" yourself. Multiple times a day.

😁

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 20/11/2024 19:16

Have a second baby. That will solve it. As you won't care less what your MIL does and you'll be shouting "Stop being silly!" yourself. Multiple times a day.

DoreenonTill8 · 20/11/2024 19:08

Oh bloody hell yes @Msmoonpie ! But the OP was well backed up by posters in agreement of how emotionally damaging it was to not have a replacement sticker, and how evil and horrible the head was!

Riapia · 20/11/2024 19:05

She’s a MIL, she’ll do far more things that you’ll disagree with in future.
MIL’s are the most detested people on MN. You’re beginning to see why.
😉😁😁.

Msmoonpie · 20/11/2024 18:59

DoreenonTill8 · 20/11/2024 18:10

Precisely! Like the thread where the OP complained to the school about the teacher correcting errors in English/maths classwork!

I do think that the effects of this kind of parenting will eventually cause a swing towards more firm parenting in the long run.

I see so many examples of what is in reality poor parenting as children are taught no resilience whatsoever.

The thread where the parent was miffed the school wouldn’t replace a sticker her child lost was ridiculous.

Msmoonpie · 20/11/2024 18:54

If your DD isn’t behaving it’s fine for her to be told off. Thats how she will learn.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 20/11/2024 18:48

Yes you are being pfb.

The only thing you should say to your mil is 'thank you.'

Your child's mental health is much more likely to be adversely affected by strict gentle parenting imo. The soaring rise in kids with anxiety who have zero resilience is testament to that.

DoreenonTill8 · 20/11/2024 18:25

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 18:13

Oh please do link to that thread I could do with a laugh

Will look but am sure disappeared for 'privacy issues'...!.😆

MrsPinkSky · 20/11/2024 18:14

thisoldcity · 20/11/2024 17:18

Is there a particular reason your MiL doesn't take dd out?

She's probably too bloody scared!

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 18:13

DoreenonTill8 · 20/11/2024 18:10

Precisely! Like the thread where the OP complained to the school about the teacher correcting errors in English/maths classwork!

Oh please do link to that thread I could do with a laugh

DoreenonTill8 · 20/11/2024 18:10

Bex5490 · 20/11/2024 16:38

In a roundabout way, It’s this kind of stuff that people were so sick of that they voted for Trump.

Precisely! Like the thread where the OP complained to the school about the teacher correcting errors in English/maths classwork!

MintGlitter · 20/11/2024 18:09

I don't think you're necessarily wrong for how you feel or in wanting your DD to be parented in a particular way.

However your choices are...look after her yourself or pay someone to do it under your direction.

That's it.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 18:00

Maray1967 · 20/11/2024 17:11

My DC would not be with someone two days a week - even a grandparent - who hardly ever takes them out. That isn’t healthy, in my book. Kids need fresh air and lots of running around for exercise - and basically to wear them out. I took mine out practically every day I had them and they played out at nursery.

This is the problem. Can you at least pick her up quickly at 5 and have 15 minutes outside, even in the dark? I think that’s a bigger issue than whether she will be impacted by being told she’s being silly.

Either that, or you’re going to have to ask MIL to take her out. To me it’s blindingly obvious that kids who have been kept in all day will go a bit wild by late afternoon. If MIL is expecting her to sit quietly all day then this really is poor quality childcare.

I noticed whenever my MIL has looked after my kids they never ever go out. Not to the park or a soft play or anything. And I figure out MIL (late 60’s now) is probably in pain and tired far more than she lets on, and she’s always cold too. She is a free “service” when we need her and a cherished granny, I’d never dream of bossing her around like that.

TurkeyTwizzlers2 · 20/11/2024 17:58

She's far more likely to end up suffering from mental health issues due to the '(very high standard of) gentle parenting', IMHO.

They say behaviour is communication. To a point, yes. However there's nothing wrong with a 'firm' reminder as well. Sometimes kids don't take you seriously unless you raise your voice a bit.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 17:58

Bex5490 · 20/11/2024 16:38

In a roundabout way, It’s this kind of stuff that people were so sick of that they voted for Trump.

Hope you’re happy with yourself OP! (Only kidding but this post made me chuckle)

coxesorangepippin · 20/11/2024 17:56

Since childhood mental health seems to be much worse than it used to be, perhaps learning from the older generation might be worthwhile, rather than taking faddy advice from modern books that people made up as they went along

^

This needs to be the first post on the vast majority of threads on here these days

A1.

coxesorangepippin · 20/11/2024 17:55

Send Mil to me

I'll have her

She can say that all she likes

😆

unsync · 20/11/2024 17:55

Other childcare options are available. You have a choice.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 17:52

PriOn1 · 20/11/2024 13:53

I think many of us survived that kind of childhood, back when it was assumed children would have some resilience and were not considered to be the centre of the universe.

Since childhood mental health seems to be much worse than it used to be, perhaps learning from the older generation might be worthwhile, rather than taking faddy advice from modern books that people made up as they went along.

Alternatively, go with parenting instinctively, based on your own experience of growing up and let MIL do what she thinks is right, unless she’s actually demonstrably putting your daughter at risk.

Great post

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 20/11/2024 17:49

YABVU.

Unless you’re paying for childcare, you get what you’re given. She must be saving you a fortune!

I understand her not taking her out. Especially in this weather. A less than 2 year old is hard work and your MIL is a lot older than you.

Im thinking of the gentlest way to say this - but as the mother of a 7yo and 11yo if you’re worried about a few harmless words damaging her MH then you’re fucked when she starts school and kids say all sorts to her. Trust me, you want to build a resilient child now. I don’t understand parents who never want their child to ever have an adverse experience. I’ve seen those kind of kids grow up and they’re gibbering messes by the time they hit the age of 7. And secondary school these days is not for the faint hearted kids. I know it’s easy to stay in the toddler bubble but you have gotta start thinking long term