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HR calling me on my day off

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Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 13:25

I have been experiencing some health problems which require reasonable adjustments in the workplace. I thought I was managing this well with my line manager. Today, however, I received a phone call out of the blue from the person who does our HR, to discuss "support" for me, as I had expressed "needs" to them (I have a formal diagnosis, which I think shared with management). However, I do not work on Wednesdays and the caller ID did not come up as my work, so I answered as I was concerned it was my son's school.

AIBU to be pissed off to be called about work-related issues like this on my day off? It can absolutely wait until tomorrow. I have not had more than half a day in a row off for this condition (or a full day for anything else since February), so it's not like I am never in work for them to speak to me! I was in the library with my toddler and now I am fucking paranoid they're trying to cut me loose!

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Mostlyoblivious · 20/11/2024 19:10

AwakeNotThruChoice · 20/11/2024 17:05

If today (Wednesday) is your day off and you want a break from work talk, why are you posting here about it.

You have nailed the issue for the OP - she doesn’t want to talk about it in her day off as it is her free time: HR were wrong to contact her, out of the blue about this.

OP - talk to your union and bring representation with you going forward to any meeting, you know for off the record note taking..

Caffeineismydrug35 · 20/11/2024 19:07

Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 17:17

Thank you for this. No, no one has mentioned my performance. SLT was supportive when I disclosed my condition, but that was three months ago. I am probably just being unnecessarily suspicious, but that's based on past experience (I asked my then LM for a meeting to discuss workload and I rocked up to find the HR person there to take notes; off the record "advisory chats" that could be construed as bullying etc etc). Said former LM is now the HT so I'm not overly confident I will get a supportive hearing...

Seriously considering bringing the union in, as I don't trust a meeting to discuss support for me won't, intentionally or otherwise, turn into a meeting about performance.

Ok so by the sounds of it, this could well be your HT initiating this and I too, would be suspicious. I would definitely seek advice from your union and you are within your rights to bring a union representative with you to any meetings that HR is present at, you are also allowed to delay the meetings until a union rep is available, in my experience it’s within a week or so so not unreasonable. I’d try and keep communication over email so there is a paper trail, take photos too. I once had an a really unpleasant email from my HT magically deleted.
I hope you get to focus on your health.

Quitelikeit · 20/11/2024 19:06

Op

you are seriously overreacting here

its not that deep

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/11/2024 18:55

TheZingyFish · 20/11/2024 17:48

Would you be happy for HR to phone you on a Sunday afternoon when you are more likely to be free? As this similar to what you are suggesting?

Not the end of the world if they did. I'd have a chance of hearing them, for a start.

My last Occy Health appointment was after I finished work and my Access to Work contact is all done outside school hours.

Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 18:52

Hfgvi · 20/11/2024 17:44

Don’t call back random numbers if you don’t want to speak to them!

I've already explained I thought it was maybe my son's school, hence returning the call as soon as I saw it.

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scotstars · 20/11/2024 18:46

I couldn't get worked up about it they are trying to support you not asking you to work so what would be the difference if they called then or your lunch hour.
Personally I'd rather discuss private matters from the comfort of my home rather than a staff room of classroom anyone could walk into or overhear.

DoraGray · 20/11/2024 18:22

Would you have complained if they had called when you were on a lunch break, or a free period or asked you to come in before school or after school?

I think you would.

AGoingConcern · 20/11/2024 18:20

I think your reaction is disproportionate and you’re taking the worst possible read for everything. That’s certainly not surprising if you’re dealing with PMDD.

They called once during their normal working hours and left a voicemail, assuming you’d listen to it before choosing when to call back at a time that also worked for you. If you had picked up initially they likely would have started with “is this a good time to talk or…” but when you called back they likely (and reasonably) assumed that was your indication you were ready to talk then. It’s not their fault you didn’t listen to the voicemail, though I understand why you didn’t.

I’m always one to remind employees that HR works their employer, so being aware of what you say to them is important. But calling to make sure you were ok with the any arrangements in place and not in need of additional support is very normal and something HR should do, so the assumption that the motives were nefarious is not reasonable. You’re running with the worst possible interpretations of all of this.

cansu · 20/11/2024 18:15

OP I work in a school and can confirm that is quite unusual to have unsolicited chats with HR. You are probably right to be on your guard. However I would just make a note of what was said. I would also ask your line manager about the reason for the call. In future ask them to email you during work hours to agree a time that works fir a telephone conversation.

YorkieIsDefinitelyForGirls · 20/11/2024 18:13

Kindly OP, if you're not able to react proportionately to a VM and admit you're "not well", then perhaps there are some performance concerns?

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/11/2024 18:05

I don’t think it’s unusual for a line manager to ask for HR support if they feel unsure about how to offer effective support.

SheilaFentiman · 20/11/2024 18:03

If you had picked up, HR might well have opened with “is now a good time or would you prefer to speak in school?”

As you called back after they left a voicemail, it’s not unreasonable that they thought you had listened to it and were OK to talk to them, so they launched into their conversation

Businessflake · 20/11/2024 17:59

Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 16:23

No, they called and left a voicemail. I saw I had a missed call from a number I thought might be my son's school, so I returned the call. It was only after that call that I realised they left a VM.

This is totally on you. You could have checked your VM and not returned the call.

TheZingyFish · 20/11/2024 17:58

LIZS · 20/11/2024 17:51

Surely your day off is the one day you are likely to have tome to speak freely. It is not ideal, and presumably the voicemail requests a call back at your convenience.

If HR want her to have time to speak freely then it is their job to facilitate this within her working hours, ie they should arrange cover for a lesson that she is scheduled to teach on a day she is in work, not on her day off when she is not being paid.

I cannot believe how ridiculous some people being here.

OneEdgyTiger · 20/11/2024 17:55

Yes they definitely shouldn’t have interrupted your day off they should have sent you an email to tell you exactly what they wanted and asked to arrange a time within your working hours or if that’s really impossible asked you when you would be happy to speak. It’s probably just that they thought oh this is
a good time for me to call and not even considering you but understandable it makes you feel nervous about what’s going on.

LIZS · 20/11/2024 17:51

Surely your day off is the one day you are likely to have tome to speak freely. It is not ideal, and presumably the voicemail requests a call back at your convenience.

LlynTegid · 20/11/2024 17:50

If you are not full time it is reasonable for HR to check your non-working days. I am not surprised to read of your suspicions.

TheZingyFish · 20/11/2024 17:48

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/11/2024 17:20

They called your personal number when you were most likely to be free and more able to ensure you had privacy to take the call.

I don't want to have conversations in the day where anybody could walk in, Year 9 could overhear or I've got a data drop deadline.

Would you be happy for HR to phone you on a Sunday afternoon when you are more likely to be free? As this similar to what you are suggesting?

Hfgvi · 20/11/2024 17:44

Don’t call back random numbers if you don’t want to speak to them!

Hillcrest2022 · 20/11/2024 17:32

HR can't win.

Other scenarios where they would be accused of nefarious behaviour could be 'I disclosed the need for accommodations and HR never reached out to me to discuss', or 'HR called me on a day I was teaching class, how could they expect me to be available?'

Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 17:25

SereneFish · 20/11/2024 16:44

It doesn't take an unusual level of assertiveness to say you're off work and ask to pick up the conversation another day. You're overreacting and imagining devious motives to ordinary things.

Nope, it doesn't for someone who is well. I am not well.

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Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 17:23

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/11/2024 17:20

They called your personal number when you were most likely to be free and more able to ensure you had privacy to take the call.

I don't want to have conversations in the day where anybody could walk in, Year 9 could overhear or I've got a data drop deadline.

That's you. I don't want to discuss work on my day off. I don't think either of us is unreasonable, just different.

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Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 17:21

AwakeNotThruChoice · 20/11/2024 17:05

If today (Wednesday) is your day off and you want a break from work talk, why are you posting here about it.

Because it's all I can think about now and I process issues by talking about them. My 2yo and 7yo are unlikely to be particularly interested though and my husband was in work🤷🏼‍♀️

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/11/2024 17:20

They called your personal number when you were most likely to be free and more able to ensure you had privacy to take the call.

I don't want to have conversations in the day where anybody could walk in, Year 9 could overhear or I've got a data drop deadline.

Notsurewhatithink · 20/11/2024 17:19

TinyGingerCat · 20/11/2024 17:17

Offering someone support when they have disclosed an issue (health or wellbeing) is not disingenuous, it's what a good employer does to look after their staff. You don't have to take the support but your employer has done the right thing to flag it with you.

Edited

But I disclosed it three months ago and was already getting the support I felt I needed?

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