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Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:15

I’m having a ‘did that just happen’ moment… have not disclosed this to my DP yet

Received a text from BiL asking for a chat. This is extremely unprecedented, we send the rare occasional birthday text or family photo.

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

He rapidly disclosed a hidden obsession with male on male oral sex and suddenly started sending me explicit images of random men, complete with commentary about what he’d do with them. His texting went on for 1.5 hrs.

I woke up today vaguely wondering whether it was a scam, but feeling certain it wasn’t.

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

My mind is spinning. Any advice?

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thebuilder · 25/11/2024 17:55

It’s not a stolen phone, when that happens as a stolen phone, then you report it stolen, then its locked out from any chats or any kind of use…..period

Show the txt’s to your husband, why risk anything like that with anyone, if you acquiesce to what he ask of you, then you are putting him in front of your existing relationship.

is that worth it!

Sometimesright · 25/11/2024 17:53

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:27

Yes indeed, I’m still feeling WTF. There was too much personal info within the texts for it to be a scam. My DP doesn’t return from o/s for a few days so I want to think about how to approach it. I was particularly worried about his wife but he said she already knew he’d had these fantasies/acted upon them in the past before they got together, so she thinks it’s a thing of the past/something from his 20s. He was grappling in the texts with his current identity as a family man, but a renewed desire to have gay oral sex “maybe 4 times a year” to satiate this desire. It was a complete stream of consciousness from him where he didn’t seem to require my input or feedback.

Definitely speak to your partner

Ochrer · 25/11/2024 17:53

rwalker · 24/11/2024 13:48

Sounds like he’s struggling to accept his sexuality and gone into self destruct mode

I don’t think so, I think he’s very comfortable sharing his sexuality with any willing or unwilling woman who will listen. I think that that is perhaps an element of his sexuality. And perhaps he prefers the unwilling.

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 25/11/2024 17:52

Judecb · 25/11/2024 17:44

If you are close, call him to establish this is definitely from him. After this you need to shut this down!!! He had no right to send explicit texts which have distressed you! You need to urge him to speak to someone about this.

After everything that's happened in the past 5 days you think it might not be him? Why?

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 25/11/2024 17:51

Laura95167 · 25/11/2024 17:40

If it went on for 90mins you must have been replying.

I'd maybe message in cold light of door explaining why you're in a difficult position and don't want to out him but feel uncomfortable hiding this and encouraging him to come out

She's explained what she was doing in that time. Why accuse her of lying?

Sometimesright · 25/11/2024 17:51

FionnulaTheCooler · 20/11/2024 13:44

You're a teacher and you give your personal mobile number out to pupils? That would be a huge no-no in the educational authority I work for.

My son had several teachers numbers when he was in 6th form

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 25/11/2024 17:50

Sometimesright · 25/11/2024 17:49

When you say bil do you mean your sisters husband or your partners brother?

OP explained this 5 days ago.

Sometimesright · 25/11/2024 17:49

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:15

I’m having a ‘did that just happen’ moment… have not disclosed this to my DP yet

Received a text from BiL asking for a chat. This is extremely unprecedented, we send the rare occasional birthday text or family photo.

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

He rapidly disclosed a hidden obsession with male on male oral sex and suddenly started sending me explicit images of random men, complete with commentary about what he’d do with them. His texting went on for 1.5 hrs.

I woke up today vaguely wondering whether it was a scam, but feeling certain it wasn’t.

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

My mind is spinning. Any advice?

When you say bil do you mean your sisters husband or your partners brother?

AlohaRose · 25/11/2024 17:45

How did you find out he had messaged other women as well? Did you/DH speak direct to his wife? What on earth was her reaction to all this - are you saying that she is staying with him?!

Judecb · 25/11/2024 17:44

If you are close, call him to establish this is definitely from him. After this you need to shut this down!!! He had no right to send explicit texts which have distressed you! You need to urge him to speak to someone about this.

JawsCushion · 25/11/2024 17:42

It's shocking to me that it seems to be a very delayed realisation that he was going this for sexual kicks. It was obvious from the OP.

Laura95167 · 25/11/2024 17:40

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:15

I’m having a ‘did that just happen’ moment… have not disclosed this to my DP yet

Received a text from BiL asking for a chat. This is extremely unprecedented, we send the rare occasional birthday text or family photo.

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

He rapidly disclosed a hidden obsession with male on male oral sex and suddenly started sending me explicit images of random men, complete with commentary about what he’d do with them. His texting went on for 1.5 hrs.

I woke up today vaguely wondering whether it was a scam, but feeling certain it wasn’t.

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

My mind is spinning. Any advice?

If it went on for 90mins you must have been replying.

I'd maybe message in cold light of door explaining why you're in a difficult position and don't want to out him but feel uncomfortable hiding this and encouraging him to come out

Changeyourfuckingcar · 25/11/2024 15:27

Oh of course it’s turned out that he also messaged two other innocent women about his fantasies. Disgusting man, using you all to indulge him and his ‘kink’. You did the right thing speaking to your partner, how dare he ask you to keep that secret! I’d also want no further contact and would make it clear to my partner that I expected his support in that.

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 15:22

Cyberflashing is a crime .

BodyKeepingScore · 25/11/2024 15:20

The more you update the worse this gets.

This man was not having an innocent "safe space" conversation with someone to work through his confusion.

He sent three separate women (note, all WOMEN) explicit messages, simultaneously, discussing his sexual fantasies. So he wasn't simply unburdening himself with someone he trusted, he actively instigated these separate conversations, most likely while getting off on involving unsuspecting women in his sexual fetish.

This behaviour, if left unchecked, will escalate.

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 15:18

Showing photos of naked body is a crime , no matter of 'safe space' its a crime.

AliasGrace47 · 25/11/2024 15:12

WinterUnder · 25/11/2024 13:32

Yes and isn't anyone concerned about their kids, why hasn't anyone reported this.

There are kids? Even more reason to phone the police.. he has v inappropriate boundaries at the least

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 15:09

Gosh! Things have been speeding along , yes phone the police , he's seems dangerous.

Sunnings · 25/11/2024 13:38

snotathing · 25/11/2024 11:52

Very strange that you aren't mentioning reporting this crime to the police. Ridiculous that he sends pornographic images to various women and pretends it's not a crime by shouting 'safe space' afterwards.

Your DH seems to be minimising it too.

I agree.
I think the responsibile thing to do would be calling 101.

You didn't offer him a save space.
He violated your privacy.

WinterUnder · 25/11/2024 13:32

snotathing · 25/11/2024 11:52

Very strange that you aren't mentioning reporting this crime to the police. Ridiculous that he sends pornographic images to various women and pretends it's not a crime by shouting 'safe space' afterwards.

Your DH seems to be minimising it too.

Yes and isn't anyone concerned about their kids, why hasn't anyone reported this.

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 13:11

Yes , very likely . I have experienced sexual abuse from a relative when I was a child , the problem doesn't stay there , the behaviours of those with sexual deviance does spill into ordinary life's of others , manipulating the minds of others , ironically I entered the bdsm for a few years and gave me understanding and strength of mind , hence proceed with caution. Yes show partner the info but be aware of the conflict it will cause , being the messenger has a negative, not saying anything is worse . I now don't have anything to do with relatives because of the manipulative behaviour of one .

kittybiscuits · 25/11/2024 12:57

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 11:17

Bil is either bi sexual or gay ...but living a lie and struggling as a result...ofcourse somebody else might be typing the message, proceed with caution .

This is about more than being gay or bi and I think this is a misguided perception. Being gay or bi does not predispose anyone to want to share graphic sexual material and sexual desires with female relatives. That suggests a paraphilia. He gets off on doing this. He also has clearly done it before as he's quite skilled at manipulating the victims.

LBFseBrom · 25/11/2024 12:22

Calmondeck · 24/11/2024 12:20

In a sad turn of events - I learned that BiL not only contacted me but his wife’s sister and wife’s best friend. Not in the explicit detail he went into with me, but almost canvassing whether he’d get sympathetic reactions to his “kink” (as he’s worded it).

BiL is now saying (to my partner) that I’ve been deceptive speaking to my DH and his wife. And what was supposed to be a safe space, I’ve abused.

As some predicted, of course it’s come round to me being the issue, not his behaviour.

He’s sending happy family photos to my DH about their lovely Sunday, saying “no one can break the bond me and my wife share”.

I wish I could rescue his wife but I guess it’s time to accept it’s non of my business now what she accepts going forward

That is worse than ever. He is completely out of order, it's an outrage.

I think you are taking it all very well, Calmondeck, but he needs to have brakes put on him because he'll do it again and again and goodness knows how it will escalate. Your husband must realise this.

I didn't know you had spoken to your sister-in-law, must have missed that along the way. What did she say?

My opinion is that you should go to the police but obviously that is your decision.

I hope it is all over now as far as your involvement is concerned and that you never have to see him.

snotathing · 25/11/2024 11:52

Very strange that you aren't mentioning reporting this crime to the police. Ridiculous that he sends pornographic images to various women and pretends it's not a crime by shouting 'safe space' afterwards.

Your DH seems to be minimising it too.

BessiePage · 25/11/2024 11:17

Bil is either bi sexual or gay ...but living a lie and struggling as a result...ofcourse somebody else might be typing the message, proceed with caution .

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