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BiL explicit texts - WWYD

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Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:15

I’m having a ‘did that just happen’ moment… have not disclosed this to my DP yet

Received a text from BiL asking for a chat. This is extremely unprecedented, we send the rare occasional birthday text or family photo.

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

He rapidly disclosed a hidden obsession with male on male oral sex and suddenly started sending me explicit images of random men, complete with commentary about what he’d do with them. His texting went on for 1.5 hrs.

I woke up today vaguely wondering whether it was a scam, but feeling certain it wasn’t.

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

My mind is spinning. Any advice?

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Annabella92 · 20/11/2024 14:34

Sceptical123 · 20/11/2024 14:13

Yes, it would have been better for everyone involved if he’d called Samaritans or another helpline instead of spilling the beans so close to home! Did he know his brother was away? Sounds like he was on drink or drugs which led to this confession

This wasn't a confession, it was quite clearly a pleasure session

Allthehorsesintheworld · 20/11/2024 14:33

There’s telling you he’s confused about his identity and asking your thoughts on where he goes from here.
And there’s sending you pornographic images which was totally unnecessary.
Its either mates have taken his phone and it’s their idea of a joke.
Or he was getting a kick out of sending you the images. To me it sounds like in lieu of exposing himself but I might be overthinking.

You need to tell your husband and let him deal with BIL and I’d also text BIL and tell him his texting and especially sending images was way out of order.

OchAyeTheN00 · 20/11/2024 14:32

Wtaf. I hope your only reply was ‘I don’t think I’m the person you should be sending this to’ and blocking him.

LBFseBrom · 20/11/2024 14:31

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:27

Yes indeed, I’m still feeling WTF. There was too much personal info within the texts for it to be a scam. My DP doesn’t return from o/s for a few days so I want to think about how to approach it. I was particularly worried about his wife but he said she already knew he’d had these fantasies/acted upon them in the past before they got together, so she thinks it’s a thing of the past/something from his 20s. He was grappling in the texts with his current identity as a family man, but a renewed desire to have gay oral sex “maybe 4 times a year” to satiate this desire. It was a complete stream of consciousness from him where he didn’t seem to require my input or feedback.

It does sound as though it was him who sent it, unfortunately. Hang on to it, screenshot, etc. I originally thought that could be why the man's poor wife was ringing you and now you have updated, I'm convinced of it so I now do think it's important to tell your husband.

This is awful for you, I'm so sorry. Whatever the guy has done, or does, he had no right to inflict such photographs on you. That is seriously weird and I can't imagine how his poor wife is feeling.

You take care of yourself. I'm glad your husband is home in a few days.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/11/2024 14:29

That’s such a bizarre situation that I’d tread very carefully as he can’t be in his right mind. I think I’d block his number now. Tell your husband everything and let him handle it.

what the hell do family gatherings look like now?!’n 🫤🤦🏻‍♀️🙈

desperatedaysareover · 20/11/2024 14:28

Ooft, that’s kind of worrying OP. I’d leave aside the ‘it was a turn on for him’ hypothesis and tell your partner, with screen shots, regardless of whether he’s overseas or not. Your BIL might be having some sort of mental health episode and it’s not ridiculous to think his erratic behaviour may escalate. Someone needs to do some sort of welfare check (it shouldn’t be you). Once it’s established he’s not in the grip of some sort of episode that might cause danger to himself or others, the ‘whys’ of his behaviour can be gone into further, if necessary. It’s arguable he’s already broken the law, he needs some sort of intervention.

FancyNewt · 20/11/2024 14:28

I'd text him and tell him you are telling DH and you don't want to ever receive anything like that again. This is not a problem you need be involved in and if he wants to offload to someone it should be his brother or someone else.

Then tell your DH and let him deal with it.

What a weirdo.

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 14:25

At first I thought it was a genuine appeal for help. He was saying he was worried about these feelings, this isn’t who he wants to be etc., It was so erratic. One moment saying he needed help, next moment writing about a past experience.

Maybe sounds naive but I thought he must be drunk or on drugs which had triggered some tipping point where he just needed to disclose this information. I was trying to be open minded and thinking I can’t shame him - he wouldn’t be the first married person to realise they’re gay - but at the same time I was just like wtf is happening.

I have a toddler and baby so these texts were coming in as I was picking 1,000 bits of rice off the kitchen floor, cleaning up from the chaos of the day, showering,etc. I wasn’t texting throughout. But yes, at some point I went from thinking he needs help to this is totally inappropriate. Maybe not the right approach but I just told him I needed to sign off blaming my baby waking.

When I woke there were more messages - which made me think he didn’t see what I said, or didn’t care whether I was there or not.

Ive just texted my DP asking him to call me when his work day is done.

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Cattery · 20/11/2024 14:24

Chenecinquantecinq · 20/11/2024 13:58

I think you'd need to explain why this went on for 1.5 hours, I mean if I were in that situation I would have shut it down far sooner than 1.5 hours even if that meant a block.

Absolutely this. I’d have been so horrified I’d have deleted and blocked after the first text. One and a half hours? Either someone’s got hold of his phone or OP is having us on

sandyhappypeople · 20/11/2024 14:22

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

how on earth did you let it go on for so long without interrupting this 'stream of consciousness'? to say, 'hang on, I don't think it is appropriate for you to disclose/want to discuss anything like this with me'.

Don't even consider not telling your DH about this, and I'd be messaging the BIL back to tell him that, you could apologise for any confusion, but tell him if he needed to keep this sort of thing secret from you DH the he shouldn't have told you about any of it, as it's puts you in too awkward of a position.

Why didn't you shut it down straight away?!

Mekumeku · 20/11/2024 14:22

Sounds like he got drunk last night and opened up to you. I don't think it was a mate's prank as it would have been more silly. What you are saying he wrote sounds real (and more common than we would like to think, probably).
I'm a little torn, part of me would want to help him keep his secret, as I've said (and done) many stupid things in the past before I quit drinking. But there could be a more sinister aspect to it - maybe he got off on talking to you about it - and the fact that he is your BIL makes me think it's probably a good idea to tell your partner, on the understanding that he deals with it discreetly.

CactusPeach · 20/11/2024 14:19

Who is your partner's sibling? The BIL or his wife? I would only tell DP if it is his brother.

coxesorangepippin · 20/11/2024 14:17

'kindly clear the chat'

🤔 🤔

Er, no, I'll keep it thanks

Helixpoint · 20/11/2024 14:16

why on earth did you not shut this down and let it go on for 90mins?

tell your husband immediately

JFDIYOLO · 20/11/2024 14:16

Tell your husband immediately. Don't sit on it.

If the phone has been stolen he can have that conversation immediately and it's all cleared up and you can relax.

If it was him tho, your husband will need to have THAT conversation, too.

And tell his wife. She needs to know, and to get tested - he may have been doing more than fantasising.

If it comes out later and they both find out you will have broken both their trust if you don't tell them today.

NeedToChangeName · 20/11/2024 14:16

SHARING OBSCENE IMAGES IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE

DO NOT FORWARD THEM TO YOUR DP OR THE MAN'S PARTNER

Stormyweatheroutthere · 20/11/2024 14:16

Imo he has no right to expect you to keep such a seedy secret from your dh. He may have no respect for his spouse but you do (don't you?!) telling your dh is the very least you should be doing. Telling his dw too. He is putting her sexual health at risk if he has ever acted on his fantasies... Block him after you have screen shot all the messages....

NoTouch · 20/11/2024 14:15

“I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

How much did you go along with the "chat" last night? Surely when he started sending explicit images it was obvious there was an issue and you told him it was inappropriate and cut it dead?

Tell you dp to call you when he is free to talk today and share the entire chat with him. Do not engage further with your BIL until your dp had a word with his brother.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 20/11/2024 14:14

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

How are people NOT assuming the messages were being sent by someone else? 😳

Of all the different possible explanations on this thread, I'd say that one's the most blindingly obvious.

Sceptical123 · 20/11/2024 14:13

Peopleinmyphone · 20/11/2024 13:33

This is so bizarre that I'd be questioning if he needs some urgent help with his mental health. Possibly.

Agree with others to tell your husband but not his wife at this point. That's probably what I'd do.

Yes, it would have been better for everyone involved if he’d called Samaritans or another helpline instead of spilling the beans so close to home! Did he know his brother was away? Sounds like he was on drink or drugs which led to this confession

HowToSaveAWife · 20/11/2024 14:12

Huge coincidence if the messages came from someone who stole his phone, given his history of experimentation prior to marrying SIL.

Either off his head on coke, having an episode, has a brain tumor or is turning himself on by telling you. It seems to be all in the risk for him - and he's risking quite a lot by telling you because obviously you have to tell DH.

Save all the messages. Show DH. Consider telling SIL, but don't give BIL the heads up.

An outside bet, but could it have been SIL using his phone to message you that to test your loyalty to her?

NeedToChangeName · 20/11/2024 14:12

ThreeTescoBags · 20/11/2024 13:21

I'd text him once to tell him what he sent wasn't OK and that he's not to text you again. Then I'd get straight on to your DP, tell him everything and send him the screenshots of the entire thing. This wasn't your doing, don't cover for him and don't give him the opportunity to twist the narrative with your DP at a later date.

Don't forward the images on to anyone else, even your DP. Sharing obscene images is an offence

KittyEmK · 20/11/2024 14:10

Could he be having a breakdown or medical issue that would cause him to behave strangely?

TheTruthICantSay · 20/11/2024 14:10

YOu are the victim here but having said that, I don't know why you didn't tell him to stop immediately after the first message or two, and, if necessary, block him. I appreciate you probably didn't know what to do.

The reality is that he has gotten off on sending you these messages. It is, in my opinion, a form of sexual assualt - he has forced you to take part in his sexual fantasies and preferences without your consent.

I would text him back right now saying that no, you will not be keeping this fro your DH, you also do not want him to ever talk to you or send you any such messages again and that you expect a complete and fullsome apology. I'd be inclined to say you never want to see or speak to him again too but I imagine that is tricky.

Pinkelephant66 · 20/11/2024 14:05

😂 my guess is someone has stolen his phone

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