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BiL explicit texts - WWYD

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Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:15

I’m having a ‘did that just happen’ moment… have not disclosed this to my DP yet

Received a text from BiL asking for a chat. This is extremely unprecedented, we send the rare occasional birthday text or family photo.

I called worried something was wrong (DP is overseas on a work trip). BiL didn’t accept the call and asked if we could text instead.

He rapidly disclosed a hidden obsession with male on male oral sex and suddenly started sending me explicit images of random men, complete with commentary about what he’d do with them. His texting went on for 1.5 hrs.

I woke up today vaguely wondering whether it was a scam, but feeling certain it wasn’t.

This morning I got a perfunctory “I appreciate the safe space last night. Kindly clear the chat. No need to raise this with DP or (his wife’s name)”.

My mind is spinning. Any advice?

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DirlingWhervish · 20/11/2024 23:44

This is really disturbing. I hope you're okay OP. Really creepy behaviour. I really hope his wife is okay too.

betterangels · 20/11/2024 23:21

Codlingmoths · 20/11/2024 21:56

I think you cut him off now. You reply: this was not a safe space for me, you never even checked on that. You’ve walked all over my boundaries to be honest. Please don’t text me again.

I would do this before blocking. He needs to realise how utterly inappropriate he is being.

betterangels · 20/11/2024 23:19

MissUltraViolet · 20/11/2024 13:24

I wouldn't have let that go on for 1.5 hours.

Screenshot, block, talk to DP.

This. What a bizarre dude.

SoYouThinkYouCanPrance · 20/11/2024 23:02

Codlingmoths · 20/11/2024 21:56

I think you cut him off now. You reply: this was not a safe space for me, you never even checked on that. You’ve walked all over my boundaries to be honest. Please don’t text me again.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure if I would even reply, but this nails it in terms of what he has done.

I agree with pps that you're under-reacting a bit but also, I can totally see why. It's so out of the blue, and disbelief/wtf is happening? would have been my initial response as well. Along with trying to figure out if it was some kind of cry for help.

But I think it's pretty clear now, it's not that.

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 20/11/2024 22:46

MzHz · 20/11/2024 22:39

@Calmondeck you entertained that pile of shit for 1.5 hours? Seriously? Why wouldn’t you shut that down immediately?

Because of what she was doing at the time. Most of us have been in that situation with kids and would not prioritise dealing with weird gross texts.

MzHz · 20/11/2024 22:39

@Calmondeck you entertained that pile of shit for 1.5 hours? Seriously? Why wouldn’t you shut that down immediately?

Snowdrop17 · 20/11/2024 22:36

He's only saying he's told his wife because he's now worried you will.

SoWhat21 · 20/11/2024 22:33

My response to him would be - ‘You have sent me unsolicited pornographic material. You have invaded my space for your own benefit without my consent. I will not only be telling my husband I will be reporting this to the police. Please do not contact me again’

Livinglifetoday · 20/11/2024 22:24

How dare he involve you in his sexual fantasies. Your DH should have a strong word with him letting him know he must never ever engage with you in this manner again. The trouble is he sounds mentally unstable so it's important to tread lightly. Try & forget about it OP. This man's sexual inclinations which his wife apparently accepts has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Noseybookworm · 20/11/2024 22:21

I would block BIL for now so he can't contact you again. I'd wait until DP is back home before showing him the messages. Then you can discuss between the two of you what to do next. I would want to tell his wife what he's said - I know some would say it's not your business but he's made it your business by sending you all this unsolicited stuff. If you're good friends with her, it would be very difficult keep this to yourself.

pinkstripeycat · 20/11/2024 22:20

ilovelamp82 · 20/11/2024 13:21

Of course you tell your DP. Not your place to tell his wife.

Of course it’s OPs place to tell the wife. She’s the one he was texting!

Gatecrashermum · 20/11/2024 22:18

OP - I think you and your husband have wildly underreacted to this. Your BIL is a sexual predator.

Screen shot everything. Tell your BIL this is sexual harassment and you are going to the police. Never contact me again. Don't block - make sure you save any further messages. Then go to the police.

I'm afraid going nuclear is your only option - do you want to be stuck alone with him in a room at Christmas, after a few drinks?

Your BIL is absolutely doing this for sexual kicks - calling you a safe space is vile. I repeat, he's a sexual predator and you need to be kept safe from him. Your husband needs to keep you safe - it's his brother.

EdgarAllenRaven · 20/11/2024 22:16

This is really concerning behaviour - ringing mental health crisis alarm bells to me. The stream of consciousness is a symptom of a manic episode, he could have Bipolar Disorder?
I would be telling his wife and perhaps getting him an urgent appointment or intervention.
Not normal at all, totally irrational.

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 20/11/2024 22:10

I'd block him OP. Tbh I'd have blocked him after five minutes last night.
He's horrible, he's totally getting off on this.
Let your DH deal with this.

AliasGrace47 · 20/11/2024 22:03

Sugargliderwombat · 20/11/2024 22:02

It's just a taboo though, isn't it? Wife of your brother. Yuck.

Ewww def- probably pornsick.

Sugargliderwombat · 20/11/2024 22:02

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 21:21

And @canyouletthedogoutplease i have no idea why he’s come to me. Maybe he wants me to alert DP. Maybe it’s just a Timezone thing and I was the only one he knew would be awake. I mean he obviously has no issues with guys so I don’t think it was anything to do with me being a woman. Or maybe he thinks I’m reserved and wanted to shock me. Well he succeeded.

It's just a taboo though, isn't it? Wife of your brother. Yuck.

Codlingmoths · 20/11/2024 21:56

I think you cut him off now. You reply: this was not a safe space for me, you never even checked on that. You’ve walked all over my boundaries to be honest. Please don’t text me again.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 20/11/2024 21:38

I would also block him, the dirty bastard. To be clear not ref the desire for gay sex but involving an unsuspecting woman in his fetish

NiftyKoala · 20/11/2024 21:35

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 20/11/2024 21:19

I’d speak to the police. He can see if it’s as exciting when speaking in an interview room. It is considered harassment apparently.

Personally this is EXACTLY what I'd do. Actually I have. Friend from my teen years kept sending unsolicited pics. Mind you this was just a few years ago so had been friends a long time. Told him to stop then he'd "accidentally" send them. Or detailed messages about his and his gf swinging lifestyle. So I went to the police department. And never spoke to him again. Let the police handle it so he knows you are not a "safe place".

Smittenkitchen · 20/11/2024 21:32

I think you need to block him. I'm sure his wife could get in touch with you if necessary and BIL with your DH. Sounds very messy but it is really not your problem or your business and you need to stop him from continuing to make it so.

Dollybantree · 20/11/2024 21:27

Calmondeck · 20/11/2024 13:27

Yes indeed, I’m still feeling WTF. There was too much personal info within the texts for it to be a scam. My DP doesn’t return from o/s for a few days so I want to think about how to approach it. I was particularly worried about his wife but he said she already knew he’d had these fantasies/acted upon them in the past before they got together, so she thinks it’s a thing of the past/something from his 20s. He was grappling in the texts with his current identity as a family man, but a renewed desire to have gay oral sex “maybe 4 times a year” to satiate this desire. It was a complete stream of consciousness from him where he didn’t seem to require my input or feedback.

Was he smoking crack perhaps? 🤔

Beastiesandthebeauty · 20/11/2024 21:26

He is using you for digital voyeurism, and he is likely getting far more out of it then you would like to think. I knew someone very similar briefly.

AliasGrace47 · 20/11/2024 21:25

Calmon, maybe he's bi, in which case it's a voyeuristic thing. He really seems unwell sexually. Has he ever seemed attracted to you? I would def avoid him wherever possible from now.

Sceptical123 · 20/11/2024 21:24

The fact he said he showed his wife to show it was about lust not bc their ‘rock solid’ or - whatever he referred to it as - family life - so what?!

News flash - a lot of ppl fantasise about others they’d like to have sex with - most don’t decide to tell their in-laws, send pictures or share it with their partners. This is bizarre.

If he’s doing it with the hope of being given a pass to have sex with men outside the marriage - what is he on?! That’s like a straight man saying he fancies women of a different type to his wife really turn him on so - “no disrespect to you my dear, or our incredibly strong marriage - but you won’t mind if I bonk a few every couple of months would you?” It honestly won’t affect our massively strong marriage I promise - if anything it will only make it stronger!

Yes, ok…… 😂😂😂😂😂🤣

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 20/11/2024 21:24

Horses7 · 20/11/2024 21:20

This went on for 1.5 hours? Or have I misread - why didn’t you just say I’m not doing this and stop replying. If he didn’t take the hint I’d have blocked him. Tell your husband as soon as he’s home before it becomes a bigger secret.

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