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Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:39

I’m 40 soon and last year separated from a long term partner. I now have our DD all week and he has her EOW. CMS is sorted but the real issue is that I now own a home alone (we rented previously as were saving for a house).

I have a 240k mortgage to pay off. I may never actually pay it off. I feel completely financially stuck. I am constantly worried about my job and bills. I have 1.5k in savings and try and add 100 a month but it’s hard. I never thought at 40 I would be in this situation. My parents are reasonably well off and I was brought up in a way that is now totally different to my daughter and I feel terrible about that too. I keep thinking I will be old and alone and unable to pay bills so end up on the streets. I am waking every day at 3am for some reason and just going over and over this and there is no way out. I wish I had made better financial decisions when younger and now it’s too late to fix it. How do I cope with this and accept where I am? I don’t want this to rub off on our child.

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ViciousCurrentBun · 20/11/2024 08:07

I agree about not relying on an inheritance. People think about care home fees but stuff like my sister remarried at almost 70, all manner of things can happen.

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/11/2024 08:06

At the moment I don’t have enough equity even for that though and I’m paying mostly interest so far

Everyone mostly pays interest at the start, but in 15/20 years time you’ll have paid off more and gained a good bit of equity.

In terms of career, don’t think about it just now - give your head and heart time to process where you are now. There will come a point when you can focus on your career and see possibilities, you need time though to adjust to where you are now. Catastrophic thinking won’t help though.

Ponoka7 · 20/11/2024 08:05

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:58

@Catza that’s true I didn’t think about getting a flat. That’s a great option. At the moment I don’t have enough equity even for that though and I’m paying mostly interest so far

There's a lot of over 55 housing being built. You only have to have 70% to not have any additional fees. There will be more solutions for you as a homeowner. There's equity release etc.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 08:05

@LittleRedRidingHoody thank you. I have got a pension but it is not good… another silly mistake I made when younger.

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ViciousCurrentBun · 20/11/2024 08:05

You can survive on that it’s just getting your mindset adjusted to paying for everything alone. Three of my friends are divorcing. They are a decade older than you at least. All will be worse off though two of them will still be better off than the majority it’s still a monumental mind shift.

The easiest way to make some money once your DD has left home is to rent out a room.

Catza · 20/11/2024 08:04

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:57

@Beezknees and what if you can’t though? It probably sounds silly but I feel exhausted now as it is. Not sure about inheritance I think it would mostly be taxed so never pay off my mortgage (their home is around 900k).

Assuming you are the only beneficiary of the will and, under current regulations, you will "only" pay around 150k tax which leaves you with plenty of change from 900k to pay off your mortgage and then some.
As others have said, though, everything may change in 30 years time. There is really absolutely no point worrying about it right now. You do need to maybe get yourself an appointment with a financial advisor to talk about a plan going forward.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 08:04

I don’t feel I can rely on inheritance, their home is 900k, there are 2 of us siblings and any tax will surely wipe out anything that could come to us. My parents also want to travel and do things so it may be there is nothing there anyway.

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Notsuchafattynow · 20/11/2024 08:03

Re inheritance, your parents can jointly leave 1 mill between them before IHT starts, so I think you can rest easy knowing you've got that potential financial cushion on the horizon.

(Appreciate it may be split between siblings).

LittleRedRidingHoody · 20/11/2024 08:03

OP, kindly, I think you might want to see a GP for this stress x I also worry incessantly about the future sometimes, and I get it's difficult in a position where you can't save either, but this doesn't sound healthy.

You'll have your pensions - check you're up to date with NI credits if applicable, that gives me peace of mind even if something happens to my private one!

You may well inherit. It may be taxed, but that doesn't mean you're left with nothing! I know you shouldn't count on it, but if you're worrying about worst case scenario you can also acknowledge that's a possibility!

Build equity for 20 years and then downsize - either to a flat or worst case, to rent somewhere?

If all else fails, there'll be social housing. It may not be incredible, but you wont be an OAP living on the streets 💐

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 08:02

@Jellycatspyjamas i feel I have hit a wall professionally. I am in an ok career but I can’t see my salary going up much, I am too focused on dd to even think about all that right now too. I don’t have the headspace. I feel trapped on every front.

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HildaHosmede · 20/11/2024 08:02

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:49

It doesn’t feel stable at all though. Most people I know don’t work at 70 and I will be working way beyond that if I pay this off and who knows if I will even be able to do that by then. What happens then? The home would be taken off me, I would have nowhere to live. I certainty won’t have money to help dd when she starts out. All I see ahead is constant struggle.

You're catastrophizing and you're not thinking logically.

You are 39 years old. You have decades in which to pay off your mortgage. It sounds like you may well receive an inheritance at some point too.

Worst case, you get to 65, want to retire, still have a mortgage - it will be tiny at that time and your house value will have increased significantly. You just downsize then, using your equity to buy outright.

Ponoka7 · 20/11/2024 08:01

The issue is your 'reasonably well off' background is what you are setting as default. Your situation is better than most people. I agree about looking at your nutrition and try something like meditation. You will have options at 55 re downsizing etc. You might meet someone else etc. Surely there'll be some inheritance? Just set your DD up to do the best she can. The majority of young people don't have a leg up, just the ability to live rent free and support is enough.

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/11/2024 08:01

i get through the month just about but there’s no buffer. Last month I only saved 60. It makes no difference to anything. I can manage but the stress is awful and I don’t know how I will cope with this now forever more

Yep, I get that. At the moment you’re adjusting to a huge change in circumstances and that can feel overwhelming. Not having a buffer is stressful, but that can change over time. What are your earning prospects like - are there development opportunities or promotion prospects? I’ve found over the last year that as I’ve put myself out there different opportunities have come along that I couldn’t have foreseen, especially given my age. I know it’s hard when you feel overwhelmed but you’ll be in a different place in a year/five years time - you have room to grow and develop your skills and earning capacity.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:58

@Catza that’s true I didn’t think about getting a flat. That’s a great option. At the moment I don’t have enough equity even for that though and I’m paying mostly interest so far

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sel2223 · 20/11/2024 07:58

Hi OP, you are focusing on still having to work and potentially struggling when you are 70 - 30 years from now!

Losing sleep, waking at 3am every night, feeling anxious to this degree about something that may or may not be an issue in 3 decades time is not normal or healthy and it will rub off on your child of you don't address it.

Focus on the here and now, the home and security you are giving you and your child. It's amazing that you own a home but if you are struggling with the repayments of a large mortgage, maybe consider downsizing to something more manageable? If you can't move right now because of schools, maybe you can downsize in 10 years time, who knows. Address what you can fix right now, 30 years is a hell of a long time and you have no idea what will happen between now and then.

Definitely consider talking to someone about your anxiety.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:57

@Beezknees and what if you can’t though? It probably sounds silly but I feel exhausted now as it is. Not sure about inheritance I think it would mostly be taxed so never pay off my mortgage (their home is around 900k).

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IVFmumoftwo · 20/11/2024 07:56

If you can save and own your own home that is better than many.

theeyeofdoe · 20/11/2024 07:56

So you're 39 and work, so presumably you will improve your salary over time as you're promoted or move jobs.

You will also (hopefully) inherit some money from your parents.

Catza · 20/11/2024 07:56

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:49

It doesn’t feel stable at all though. Most people I know don’t work at 70 and I will be working way beyond that if I pay this off and who knows if I will even be able to do that by then. What happens then? The home would be taken off me, I would have nowhere to live. I certainty won’t have money to help dd when she starts out. All I see ahead is constant struggle.

By the time you are 70 you will have built enough of an equity and your child will have left home for you to be able to sell and buy a comfortably small flat/house. You are not going to end up with nothing and nowhere to live.
Your daughter will make her own way in life and doesn't need any cash injection to do so. It's nice to have but it is not a must.
Besides, you may also get inheritance.

Beezknees · 20/11/2024 07:55

People just have to work longer. I know somebody who was working into their 80s. It's not nice but for some it's a necessity.

If your parents are well off, you may inherit at some point? Obviously it's not a guarantee.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:55

@Jellycatspyjamas i get through the month just about but there’s no buffer. Last month I only saved 60. It makes no difference to anything. I can manage but the stress is awful and I don’t know how I will cope with this now forever more

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Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:53

I don’t understand what you do though if you can’t pay your mortgage or your rent and you are old? What happens to you? Would you be homeless? I can’t see how I will be able to fund everything myself into old age

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Jellycatspyjamas · 20/11/2024 07:53

How are your finances month to month, are you getting by and managing the mortgage payment? The mortgage is huge if you take it in one chunk, but you’d be needing to pay rent if you didn’t have a mortgage and each payment you make brings it down a tiny amount.

It’s hard being the sole earner, and yes there are no doubt thoughts about what you’d do if something happened to your job. So think through a plan, you’re trying to save, which is great. If the worst happened you could take a payment break on your mortgage while you find a new job, and negotiate with utilities etc. Are you working in a sector that tends to be insecure?

You’ll be ok, I’m in a similar position but 10 years older so financially I’m definitely not where I thought I would be but it’s ok.

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 20/11/2024 07:52

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:49

@Motomum23 they would probably help in an emergency. I just feel sick at the thought that all this is so precarious.

Honestly, being in rental is far more precarious.

Justcaant · 20/11/2024 07:52

@DieStrassensindimmernass I could downsize slightly but to be honest the houses are not much cheaper. This is only a three bed and has one box room so more a two bed. I can’t leave the area really due to the school as dd is already very settled in

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