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Who's in the wrong ? Big fight with H

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bluba · 19/11/2024 22:00

I called him today as I yet again had bad feedback from nursery regarding my youngest.

It keeps happening and it's upsetting and stressful. My H thinks I don't ' handle ' people properly and should ' put them in their place '. Letting them know that our child is only young and just needs a cuddle and that it's normal kids act up and they should ' just deal with it' .

I disagree with this exact approach and like to hear out the nursery workers to get an understanding of what's going on. Anyway today, they gave bad feedback about aggressive behaviour and I didn't really have time to chat for too long or delve into it. I listened to the complaint and kind of went ' oh no ' ' ok ', I'll chat to my child at home. I was rushed off my feet and needed to get going to get my other child. Plus, some other parents were there and I wasn't in a mood to have this chat in front of them. My plan is to ask for an actual meeting ( away from pick up and drop off times, as you can't really talk properly ).

Anyway, H kept asking why I didn't discuss it further. He literally asked me, not kidding 8 times on the phone why I didn't ' put them in their place '. I said I didn't have time delve and needed to go. ' but why didn't you ? ' ' why do you always let them get away with stuff '... etc etc. in the end I shouted and hung up the phone and told him F off. I know. I'm not proud. I just lost it.

Then when he came home, we talked about it again and he asked me again why didn't I tell them that our child is really young etc and I again got mad and said to F off ( I think ). He then lost it and said I'm the reason my child is aggressive.

Our kids were watching TV in the other room so didn't hear us swearing but came in once they heard us shouting at each other and told us to stop shouting. We did and we apologised to them for getting angry with each other and explained how sometimes people fight but they talk about things and make up again.

I know, neither of us is coming off particularly well here. I've been really calm lately in general. I've not shouted or got angry in the last six months but I have been known to occasionally get angry at my husband because he just does not hear me sometimes, like today. I've really worked on it and I don't think it's fair to blame me on my child's issues at nursery at the moment.

I think what he said was extremely hurtful and way worse than what I said to him. I just don't feel like he hears me.

Anyway, I'm sure most responses will just say we are both idiots.

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Crumpleton · 20/11/2024 14:08

How old is your DC?

I called him today as I yet again had bad feedback from nursery regarding my youngest.
It keeps happening and it's upsetting and stressful.

It keeps happening?

If its been an on going thing have you actually made an appointment for a discussion with the nursery staff yet or do you just keep asking them to leave it as the timing isn't appropriate for you?

I wouldn't even bother calling my DH unless I knew exactly what the "bad feedback" was about.

It's wrong to even say, or think you should put the nursery staff in their place if your DC is the one causing problems and being given "bad feedback" yet you're still not bothering to find out why.

WinterBones · 20/11/2024 14:05

IF you explained that you didn't because you want to have a meeting with them and talk about it properly before deciding how to handle it (which i assume is what you've done) and he then continued to badger/harass you, and asked you repeatedly why you didn't do what he thinks you ought to have done, then the problem is 100% with him,

You probably shouldn't have told him to fuck off, but honestly, in my experience with a dickhead bully exh, the best thing to do in that situation is just stop responding, then all they can do is argue with thin air.

Lifeglowup · 20/11/2024 13:53

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:11

I called him from the car, while I was on the way to pick up my other kid.

So you had this conversation in front of your child?

HawkersSouth · 19/11/2024 22:46

Onlyonekenobe · 19/11/2024 22:20

Sounds like there’s a lot of aggression and extreme reactions in your relationship. It all sounds very stressy. Can’t you both just bring everything down a few notches? You might find the poor behaviour at nursery magically resolves itself, too.

Agreed. Can't say I have ever told my DH to F**off, not alone twice in the same argument.

jannier · 19/11/2024 22:41

So his ploy is to put people in their place including you and not to parent his child's behaviour.

cansu · 19/11/2024 22:39

Sounds like he is a bit of an idiot who thinks that everything is someone else's fault whether that means blaming the nursery staff or blaming you rather than thinking about how to improve things.

BitOutOfPractice · 19/11/2024 22:36

Hold on. You had this phone call about your child, in front of your child? The phone call included him aggressively questioning you, and you “losing it” and telling him to fuck off. Then you both continued the shouting and swearing at home loud enough for your kids to hear?

do either of you have any self awareness at all??

bzarda · 19/11/2024 22:35

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:10

It's also not the first time he's said that the unfavourable behaviour from our kids is my fault.

He's said it quite a few times. ' look at yourself ' why do you think he/ she is like this or that or does this or that. It's because of you.

This is really horrible and I hope you are OK. It's stressful worrying about children and mothers always seem to get the blame. Sometimes children just have an off day (as we all do) or maybe the nursery isn't the best fit for them, it could literally be anything. I hope he doesn't say this sort of thing in front of your children too! It doesn't sound like he deals with stress well at all.

Isatis · 19/11/2024 22:33

he asked me again why didn't I tell them that our child is really young etc

Does he really think people who work in a nursery don't know how young children behave? Just maybe they know more about it than he does? Tell him that it really would do him no harm to take off the blinkers and contemplate the possibility that other people might know more than he does.

midnights92 · 19/11/2024 22:26

Oh no darling, I think you're right. I'm just not cut out for this. I guess things will be all fine now you're taking over all the nursery comms and pick ups to do thing properly. It really is too bad, I enjoyed that all so much.

Createausername1970 · 19/11/2024 22:23

As you know he is going to say unhelpful stuff, do you have to tell him every time nursery gives you bad feedback? Not suggesting you don't tell him anything, but maybe just not everything.

And maybe not over the phone when you are pushed for time. There is a time and place for most conversations, but rushing from nursery to another child pick-up isn't one of them.

His attitude is not helpful, and isn't helping. Definitely get an appointment so you can talk to nursery properly.

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:22

Onlyonekenobe · 19/11/2024 22:20

Sounds like there’s a lot of aggression and extreme reactions in your relationship. It all sounds very stressy. Can’t you both just bring everything down a few notches? You might find the poor behaviour at nursery magically resolves itself, too.

I really understand why you'd say that.

But we haven't had a fight or shouted in months.

The behaviour has come on recently.

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Onlyonekenobe · 19/11/2024 22:20

Sounds like there’s a lot of aggression and extreme reactions in your relationship. It all sounds very stressy. Can’t you both just bring everything down a few notches? You might find the poor behaviour at nursery magically resolves itself, too.

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 19/11/2024 22:18

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:15

I think he thinks I need to stand up for our child. That's what he means, by putting them in their place. I just want to hear them out but I want to do it in a better setting. Telling me in front of all the other parents isn't appropriate. If there's a larger issue, like I feel they're suggesting - we should really sit down and talk about it.

I think this is a sensible approach.

Was he at work when you rang him?

I would've waited until he got home to be honest.

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:15

I think he thinks I need to stand up for our child. That's what he means, by putting them in their place. I just want to hear them out but I want to do it in a better setting. Telling me in front of all the other parents isn't appropriate. If there's a larger issue, like I feel they're suggesting - we should really sit down and talk about it.

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DeliciousApples · 19/11/2024 22:14

What @PTSDBarbiegirl said.

lazyarse123 · 19/11/2024 22:13

You are right in that there is no need to "put people in their place" I too would have told him to fuck off.
My dh has a bad habit of telling me what I should be saying when i'm on the phone dealing with complaints or whatever, at no point does he ever offer to call these people and deal with stuff. You can imagine the hand signals he gets

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:13

cansu · 19/11/2024 22:12

It is strange that he thinks that the way to handle this is by putting the staff in their place.

apparently they're idiots and don't know what they're talking about and I should not lean into what they're saying so much apparently.

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Onlyvisiting · 19/11/2024 22:13

He's twat. Does he not realise that the nursery worker will have a better idea of him on what is normal child behaviour? If he starts 'putting them in their place' you'll be lucky if you aren't asked to take your child elsewhere surely!

cansu · 19/11/2024 22:12

It is strange that he thinks that the way to handle this is by putting the staff in their place.

bluba · 19/11/2024 22:11

Lifeglowup · 19/11/2024 22:09

What was he doing when you rang him? How did you not have time to talk to nursery but managed to to DH and have time to have an argument all before bedtime of a nursery aged child?

I called him from the car, while I was on the way to pick up my other kid.

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bluba · 19/11/2024 22:10

It's also not the first time he's said that the unfavourable behaviour from our kids is my fault.

He's said it quite a few times. ' look at yourself ' why do you think he/ she is like this or that or does this or that. It's because of you.

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 19/11/2024 22:10

Dishwashersaurous · 19/11/2024 22:08

Why did you phone him?

To discuss their child I'd guess

Lifeglowup · 19/11/2024 22:09

What was he doing when you rang him? How did you not have time to talk to nursery but managed to to DH and have time to have an argument all before bedtime of a nursery aged child?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 19/11/2024 22:09

Baby is mimicking his behaviour, he’s an arse who doesn’t understand how to connect with children. Get out while you can.

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