To ask why you support the farmers, regarding inheritance tax?

Surely if you’re selling off all your land to developers, you will fall into general inheritance tax rules anyway. So those aren’t going to be farmers who are going to be affected by the tax. Or am I missing something?

A few people have said this. Where are the parents supposed to live, if not on the farm? They’re not allowed to gift the property and still live or work there, or it doesn’t count as a gift for IHT.

Someone said a company would help- no, you still pay IHT on shares, same problem.

I support the farmers because I want the farms to continue to exist.

The IFS which is independent has come out and said only a tiny number of farms will be affected and they are the most wealthy.

Also 40% of sales last year were to investors not farmers as its a well known tax scam.

They should pay.

The stats in your link only cover England 2011 - 2015 and there's a note;

In the past, agricultural and related trades have received much attention because farmers have been found to have an elevated risk of suicide...

Also, the data collected only covers ages 20 to 64. At least a third of farmers appear to be aged over 65 - therefore any suicides in this age group would not be included.

Exactly

I'm not a farmer
I fully support taxing the rich
But FFS leave the poor farmers alone!
It's a bloody hard job for not much reward.
Farming is a family business that needs passing down or it will die out.
We need to be able to produce our own sustainable food.
Tax the fucking bankers and Amazon, Shell, BP and the like more!!!

Because I think it is wrong that the government are closing down British industries. Very sad.

I agree. I don't think costing was done properly on this, on vat on school fees, on raising employer NI contributions....
Worrying.

How many farmers do you know? Have you spent any time being a farmer? Because that is a pretty sweeping statement. Imagine being that judgemental….

also, what is your job?

However..Farmers even before this Inheritance tax announcement have a high suicide rate.
Long, lonely hours most likely- Mum's colleague was a Farmer's Daughter- her brother stayed to help on the farm, the Daughter trained as a teacher.

When her parents grew frail and died, her brother was working endless hours {Beautiful part of the World}
Mum's friend went to visit her brother, as his mental health was suffering.

When she arrived, she found the road blocked by police.
He had tragically taken his own life.

It does seem a relentlessly hard life for some farmers- yet for others, the wealthy ''hobby'' farmers, backed up by massive wealth, it's much easier.

A hundred years ago, Farms employed so many men and women - ploughmen, horsemen, pigmen Shepherds- with the advent of tractors, now a single man or woman can plough hundreds of acres.

Loneliness seems to be an issue.

@WooleyMunky Hardly. The miners were working class grafters. The farmers are mainly middle class tax-dodgers

This!

Google says we import and export Wheat - it's seems crazy exporting it if we need it ourselves.
The price of bread has skyrocketed- and butter, too. {If you like the nice quality bread and English Butter}

The NFU have chuckled along for years as agricultural land increased in value, way above inflation. It is partly down to their lobbying for all the benefits Farmers actually get, that prices became so high. The NFU is made up of wealthy people who are very used to serving themselves long before the general public.

Yes, they’ll obviously stop importing grain when English farms aren’t family owned.

it’s funny how farmers paying inheritance tax will starve to death the inhabitants of another country as well as ours. What power these farmers hold when they don’t want pay their fair share of tax

Largest import - at least from 2022 - is from UK.

The NFU should have stepped in when the price of farm land in England was going through the roof.

Harry Metcalfe, Jeremy Clarkson and the likes bought “hobby” farms to store their own wealth (and protect it from IHT) which has backfired for the actual real farmers who deserve our support especially when grow our food and supply our milk.

I feel for the people who are multi generational and own small but not insignificant (more then £3m) farms who will be affected, especially those who’s ownership is in the hands of 70:80 year old men & not yet passed to their sons / daughters.

But it’s tricky - why should the ultra rich around the Cotswolds get to play the system at the expense of the dairy farmers in NI or Arable farms in NYorks etc?

There must be a better way. Why don’t labour start by taxing the oligarchs in London? That would potentially bring more revenue but no doubt affect the free football season tickets and access to private members clubs in the city.

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Will do

Probably Ukraine, the ''Bread Basket'' of the World. {Or was}

Pretty wealthy round here, too! {Gloucestershire}.

Do you know where Ireland imports its grain from?? I’ll give you one guess 😂😂😂

Enjoy your fruits and vegetables, ma’am.
Chew carefully.

Love, a farmer.