By making Jeremy Clarkson their spokesperson, Farmers have shot themselves in the foot

@PCOSisaid I'm not quite sure what you mean from your point but I'm not hysterical. I'm enjoying the plight of the farmers and their 'I've got to pay tax' pity party 😂

I wrote an award winning thesis on the success factors in social protest. Fundamentally, you need a really good celebrity with either high credibility or high popularity. Jeremy clarksons shows have been over the globe, he has good reach, it might stand a chance of making changes to the policy but perhaps not get rid of the concept of IHT on farms altogether.

Do you think everyone should be allowed to inherit a business without paying inheritance tax, or just farmers?

Yes and younger or tenant farmers may finally get a chance to farm their own land.
Tenant farmers get a very bad deal.

Tommy Robinson in full support too on X (unsurprisingly).
Reform and the far right are using this protest to try and get Labour out.

Just like they used farmers and fishermen during Brexit.

He is insufferable. He was on the news with not a thing of substance to say, just bile against the BBC. Pathetic.

I agree entirely, except that - unfortunately - he is most certainly not little

How Is your freedom of movement impacted? Are you a Tax payer in all the countries you want freedom of movement in? Because if so, you can apply for a visa and be granted citizenship or like a few people, who work, get digital nomad status.

Get a grip, you will asking me to brush your hair tomorrow cos your left arm hurts 😂 Your “plight” has nothing to do with uk farmers,

I agree it’s madness. But it’s Labour so some pp will say ok

It’s not a good idea to import more and reduce food security

@PCOSisaid my freedom of movement was removed from me and I now live in a country struggling to improve GDP without a free trade deal with its closest neighbour. Only idiots would collectively vote to shoot themselves in the foot like that and I'm stuck living in one. So yeah, the Brexit farmers are being asked to cough up their fair share. I care not.

I do understand. I’m telling you that it’s very likely that food that comes from overseas as import will be cheaper. In many cases it is, imported under preferential tariff rates. The transportation can be included and it can still be cheaper to do this than buy British and hit domestic standards.

Of course this is all due to Brexit. Now the U.K. can secure its own deals and there is not much to stop that happening is there? And if domestic food production becomes very very expensive, then the incentive is to agree lower rates on preferential terms. No visibility on quality of production.

You will get multinational supermarkets running while supply chains. I think that is coming for the U.K.,along with cholrinated chicken, hormone beef etc.

Exactly.

They can inherit inheritance tax free abd then sell off for houses if they want. Entitled much. The rest of us ordinary families will have houses and families will pay on that.

I would genuinely love to now how? I am as working class as they come. My dad is a lorry driver and was able to semi retire based on the rates they pay those drivers nowadays, v exploiting people from the eu to come work.

my brother is also a lorry driver, my mother owns a cafe and she ended up going local and boosted her cafe sales cos of hipsters wanting local.

I work for the NHS and have seen my wages rise more than my private colleagues - unless you are directly related to realltspecific import and exports - I am sure you are just exaggerating

This.

It's not little farms, it's huge ones.

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Bought the farm to avoid inheritance tax. He said so. Rich enough to buy a farm but still wants to avoid what many pay on family homes. They will pay half of what ordinary families will pay on their family homes. Why are hobby farmers a special tax free case?

Who decides what their land is worth though? The government? The wealthy people who can afford to live and commute from the countryside?

stop being naive. IHT will not only reduce the quality of our food, it will increase the price also. And if bug corporations get there hands on farms, say good bye to the countryside

Brexit was a matter that disadvantaged my family personally. I'm happy to see farmers wear a bit of pain they didn't vote for.

(I can afford higher food prices. If I could move back to mainland Europe I would).

Yes English strawberries taste sweet. But that doesn't mean that people inheriting an asset worth millions shouldn't pay a proportion of tax on it (a proportion especially smaller, over a longer period of time, at a threshold higher) than any other class of people who has strived to better the country and their family.

Most countries in Europe have seen more food inflation than the uk, brexit hasn’t had the effect most (Financially well off) people hoped for, to try and prove their points 🤦‍♀️

There is a massive war in a huge exporter of food oil and feed going on right now, and that little inconvenience of a global pandemic.

Farmers are not taking in millions of pounds, they have land that costs loads because greedy corporations are willing to pay that much to then turn over a cheep profit by absolutely raping the land and then sell it on for a profit to developers, once the soil isn’t profitable. Uk veg and fruits are some of the most nutritious and have the best quality due to careful management.

We will end up like American ironically - where food is full of chemicals and expensive - totally in the pocket of big companies. But that’s what all the left voted for….

You don’t understand. Transporting anything is expensive. Putting things in lorries and transporting from a to b costs money. Putting stuff in an aircraft costs money. And food is perishable - unless you transport quickly it’s gone off. You know when you buy fruit from the supermarket from far flung places and the fruit goes from unripe to gone off in the space of an hour? That’s due to transportation issues. Now multiply that up. Now imagine how much food would be lost during transit - and guess who pays for that.

The cost of the fuel, of the drivers, of running/maintaining the lorry’s - all adds to the cost of your bread. The additional costs involved now of bringing stuff into the country from Europe - guess who pays for that.

You think people are experiencing food poverty now? It would be nothing!

Countries have wildly different rules on what is and what is not fit for human consumption, Bleached chicken being a famous one, But you can add different pesticides, fertilisers, vets treatments that are allowed into the food chain in some countries, but not in others. We would have to really drop our standards if we want to rely on the rest of the world to feed us.

And it is not a good idea relying on others so much! WW2 taught us that! We were so close to being cut off from food. So close. And things haven’t changed - Ukraine was known as the bread basket of Europe as they produced so much wheat. Now look what happened!

Also, fruit/ eg etc harvested at the point it is ripe is far far tastier and better for us, then when it’s picked early to allow for long transportation. Compare UK strawberries to imported ones - uk are so much sweeter, juicier and so much more flavour. Yet people are happy to lose all that.

If food is more expensive and shelves are empty you can blame the Brexit the farmers campaigned so loudly for. Add in the tariffs their hero might introduce in the USA.
On the other hand , supermarkets could pay their shareholders a slightly smaller dividend? Its not illegal. Farmers are just one link in the chain after all

Not sure I understand the big fuss about this. Surely anyone with assets worth millions can get legal advice about trusts etc for the purpose of tax avoidance. isn't that what all wealthy people do so they don't have to pay the same taxes as us plebs?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdYSE6nL/

This is an interesting take on the issue if anyone is interested.

I don’t know about threatening food poverty. Many people are already in it.

What is to stop the U.K. using its free trade agreements to increase imports? A lot of this food will be very competitive with U.K. farmers. Some of it will be very cheap. The U.K. is a poorer country than it was a decade ago. Peoples wages have had little growth. The poverty is already here.

Thank you for articulating that @FranticHare - well said.