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To make up an excuse to not go? Also... can you help with the excuse please?

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Rebeccaa1996 · 19/11/2024 12:42

I have agreed to go to an event Sunday with a group of old friends. It's a meal and drinks to celebrate a big birthday. I've now seen the menus online and it's going to be bit pricey and I think a shared bill with everyone ordering carefree whatever they like. I'm a bit tighter for cash than the rest of the group would know and I know the venue isn't negotiable and don't want to have to single myself out by asking to pay individually for items. Über will be at least £30 and the dinner split will be I think £40-50.

Would it be really terrible and mean to not go? I like the group but the idea of £80 spent on a night out feels like a lot of money which honestly I could do with for Christmas.

And if I do, what's the best way to excuse myself without looking like I don't care about the birthday friend?

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Toastyfeetbythefire · 19/11/2024 17:24

BenditlikeBridget · 19/11/2024 15:02

I think if you could send something like this, i’d do that:

“Hi all, can’t wait for the weekend, so looking forward to catching up with everyone. I just wanted to say up front that i’m a bit skint at the moment, so i’m going to drive and not drink rather than get an Uber in order to still be able to be there and celebrate our gorgeous Doris - it’s no big deal, just letting you know in advance so it’s not a thing on the night. See you soon! xx”

Perfect!
Dont be a flaky friend. It’s so hurtful. You should have declined earlier, sorry OP. I sympathise but it’s too late to pull out now.
Also won’t they have had to pay a deposit?

Newgirls · 19/11/2024 17:24

Drive and message the birthday girl and organiser to say you are a bit broke and ok to split the bill carefully? I’m sure they’d rather you went than pull out

Trumptonagain · 19/11/2024 17:19

Not being able to afford something isn't an excuse, it's a valid reason.

99point6 · 19/11/2024 17:15

There was a rather sad thread recently where the OP had gone to great efforts to organise her 40th birthday bash and the amount of no shows and cancellations was something horrendous. If driving and paying for your own meal is within your means, then that would be preferable to dropping out at this stage.

Needmorelego · 19/11/2024 17:14

@Tink3rbell30 how is literally not being able to afford it "not a good excuse"?

RampantIvy · 19/11/2024 17:11

StaunchMomma · 19/11/2024 17:09

Some people find it embarrassing to bow out of rounds and bill splitting.

I'd personally rather not attend something rather than have to do that.

It's not OP's fault they've picked an expensive place to eat out.

I would feel sad if you were my friend and felt you had to lie about being skint.

StaunchMomma · 19/11/2024 17:09

Tink3rbell30 · 19/11/2024 17:07

Not a good excuse. Just be honest and pay for your own. No need not to go.

Some people find it embarrassing to bow out of rounds and bill splitting.

I'd personally rather not attend something rather than have to do that.

It's not OP's fault they've picked an expensive place to eat out.

StaunchMomma · 19/11/2024 17:07

Seems like the 'you can't let your friend down' brigade are out in force BUT if OP isn't happy flagging the fact that she's going to struggle to pay and it's highly likely she could get roped into rounds or a meal split to include covering the birthday girl's meal then really she needs to put herself first in this instance.

Nobody should be putting themselves in debt for a mate just before Xmas.

Tink3rbell30 · 19/11/2024 17:07

Not a good excuse. Just be honest and pay for your own. No need not to go.

Gettingbysomehow · 19/11/2024 17:05

Tell them you have covid.

Sortumn · 19/11/2024 17:04

SereneFish · 19/11/2024 16:56

That's an outright lie. There are no unexpected bills.

Unexpected bills/costs come up all the time. Things break, memberships auto renew and so on.

This month I suddenly realised I needed two new front tyres.
And then there was something I really need but was making do without in a black Friday sale at a price I couldn't pass up. So that was also a pleasant surprise/also unexpected.

Nikitaspearlearring · 19/11/2024 17:01

Hoppinggreen · 19/11/2024 13:39

It is if you don't want to tell the truth

It's nearly always better to tell the truth, or at least something closely resembling the truth. If you lie you risk getting caught out later (how long were you ill for/how was the dentist's appointment, etc) and you have the stress of remembering which lie you've told to whom. Better to have a clear conscience. If the OP tells the truth (I'm really sorry, I can't afford it this month) and the others say they'll chip in for her, she just has to say that would make her feel uncomfortable and hopefully she'll see them the next time, and maybe think about taking the birthday girl out for coffee instead.

I think it's really shitty to be all enthusiastic when you already know you won't be going.

SereneFish · 19/11/2024 16:56

Expectingnum3 · 19/11/2024 15:06

Don’t outright lie, it’s just unnecessary. I’d send a message saying something like:

I’m so sorry for the late notice but I won’t be able to make the meal, had a couple of unexpected bills come out this month and with Christmas coming up I just can’t afford to eat out without stretching myself too thin. Hope you have a fabulous birthday, gutted to miss it xx

That's an outright lie. There are no unexpected bills.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/11/2024 16:49

CandyCane457 · 19/11/2024 16:21

I know some people love it, but I’m not really a fan of the ‘no excuse needed’ just say “sorry I can’t make it anymore” thing, it’s not for me. If someone text me saying that about my birthday meal with no reason, I think I would find it a bit off.

I think your best bet here is to drive so no money on taxis. Also means no money on drinks. So then when it comes to splitting the bill, you can easily say “I didn’t get any alcohol drinks guys so I’m just gonna pay for my meal and you can all split the rest between you.” You’re killing two birds with one stone there really, no taxi cost and it’s an easy, obvious way to not take part in bill splitting. Also you say it’s a small group so I think that would be really easy. May be harder in a bigger group to take your meal off and then split. I often don’t drink with meals so my friends and I do it that way.

Yes this. You could even go up to the staff on the pretext of going to the toilet at the end of the meal and ask to pay yours separately? Tell the bar staff you’re in a rush. Just remember to contribute to the service charge. Then just tell the group ‘I’ve settled up already as I didn’t have alcohol’

Hercisback1 · 19/11/2024 16:48

Don't lie.

Be honest, drive and pay for yourself.

RampantIvy · 19/11/2024 16:43

StaunchMomma · 19/11/2024 16:41

I'm usually in the 'honesty is the best policy' camp but as this is very last minute and I'd be tempted to throw a sickie.

Do you have little ones, OP? A bout of Norovirus usually puts people off spending time with you!

I see exactly where you're coming from, btw. These things can very quickly get out of hand. You can guarantee some will start getting rounds in and then you'll look tight not getting involved.

If they were very close friends that you see week to week hen I'd say push through and be honest about needing to keep costs down but if it's a big gang of old mates like that I'm sure they'll get a few cancellations and that they'll still have a good night anyway.

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No please don't do this.

RampantIvy · 19/11/2024 16:41

Needmorelego · 19/11/2024 16:27

@CandyCane457 that's why I think the OP should simply be honest - "I can't afford it".
That's the reason.

I agree. It isn't anything to be embarrassed about.

TrippingOverDogs · 19/11/2024 16:41

Rebeccaa1996 · 19/11/2024 12:58

They are old friends but not terribly close friends these days. With my close friends we would just go somewhere less costly. It's a 40th birthday celebration and the organiser had pride in organising something special so I don't want to hurt the feelings of both the birthday and the organiser.

Oh no, is the organiser going to expect you all to cover the birthday girl's meal too?

Is bill splitting still a thing? I go out with a couple of different groups and we always only pay for what we had plus a tip.

StaunchMomma · 19/11/2024 16:41

I'm usually in the 'honesty is the best policy' camp but as this is very last minute and I'd be tempted to throw a sickie.

Do you have little ones, OP? A bout of Norovirus usually puts people off spending time with you!

I see exactly where you're coming from, btw. These things can very quickly get out of hand. You can guarantee some will start getting rounds in and then you'll look tight not getting involved.

If they were very close friends that you see week to week hen I'd say push through and be honest about needing to keep costs down but if it's a big gang of old mates like that I'm sure they'll get a few cancellations and that they'll still have a good night anyway.

PuppyMonkey · 19/11/2024 16:39

So many perfectly reasonable suggestions and I’d still just text something like: “Sorry, I’m not going to be able to make it after all, I hope you have fun.”

Resilience · 19/11/2024 16:38

I've been on both sides of this. I've been the one worrying about paying for it or choosing the cheapest option and nursing a glass of water, although these days I out earn most in my social circle.

I worried far more about how things appeared when I was poorer. I was embarrassed by it. But now I know there's no need to be. Anyone who measures someone's worth by how much income they have is an absolute idiot. It's a con and we need to get past this idea that willingness to spend money = generosity of spirit. It most certainly doesn't!

I find it far better to own this sort of thing. And the more you do it, the easier it gets. I remember the first year I suggested we stopped buying Christmas presents for extended family members and focused only on immediate. Everyone was so relieved.

If this were me, I'd be going because i said I would. I hate flaky people and I wouldn't want to let down a friend. However, I definitely would post on the WhatsApp group chat something like:

Hi all. Really looking forward to Sunday. Just want to be clear on details so no one has any nasty surprises. Christmas is costing me a fortune this year, so to keep costs manageable I'll be driving instead of getting an Uber and I will be paying for my own meal/drinks. I'm sure many of you will be in the same situation and this will make life fairer and easier for everyone. Shall we agree now if everyone ok with that approach? Happy to pay a contribution towards birthday girl's if that's what we're all agreed on.

Headinthesand21 · 19/11/2024 16:35

vix3rd · 19/11/2024 12:47

So my 2 go to's are:

I've fallen in my silly heels I was wearing for tonight and can't put weight on it. See you all next time !

I've been called into work so wont make it - So sorry.

But why lie to your friends? If they find out then they will be hurt and think of you as a liar and this might affect your friendship. Surely it’s ok to just say that you are sorry, but you just make it anymore. It might be awkward, but at least it’s honest.

LeonoraCazalet · 19/11/2024 16:28

Depends what the group is like. If they are pretentious just make an excuse that you can't come because .................. If they are OK and will understand, can your order something small, drink something non alcoholic and drive yourself. Say you have extra costs this month and, whilst you are happy to join them, you can't afford the huge bill.

SlightlyJaded · 19/11/2024 16:27

I would tell the truth. I've had to do it before and proper friends understand. It's better than a lie - that will sound like a lie.

"Hi all. Just looked at the menu - looks delish - but a bit pricey for me at the moment. Things are pretty tight right now, and we've all agreed to cut back a bit, so much as I'd love to come, I just can't justify it this time. Hope you all have a brilliant time and send me some pics so I can feel like I'm there is spirit!"