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to have not lost my rag at ward sister

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TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 20:55

Spent 18 hours in A&E with elderly Dad in a corridor after he had a fall, they forgot to give him food, so I had to get some from the canteen, messed up his bloods twice, couldn't get pills into him so I had to help with that that. Also someone coughing up their lungs right next to me and Dad for several hours. There was also an incident where one of the patients in the mental health unit who was having an episode decided to start shouting at everyone in A&E.

Once he got onto a ward, I did a 2 hour journey home got 2 hours sleep, 2 hour journey back

Went to the nurses station on the ward, asked where my Dad is. Ward sister greeted me "what happened to hello, didn't your parents teach you any manners?"

Was I unreasonable to suppress the absolute rage boiling up in me and apologise and not fly off the fucking handle?

OP posts:
BloominNora · 22/11/2024 12:20

Hope your dad is on the mend @TheTidyBear .

It can be a real lottery with hospitals - I've been with my mom a few times - she has had a lot of greatly varying medical issues over the years and has been under quite a few different departments / consultants etc.

Luckily the vast, vast majority of the staff and treatment has been excellent, but there has been a couple of occasions where she's called me to come and help advocate for her - including making sure she got an antibiotic prescription following a day surgery where they had left her sitting without anti-biotics all day (after A&E had emphasised how important it was she had them the night before) and were trying to fob her off to get the prescription from the GP.

She also received chemo in an open waiting room, full of dust bunnies in front of a poster talking about 'dignity in care' - that one led to a face to face apology from the Trusts chief exec!

A lot of people work in the NHS - the majority are committed and compassionate, but there are, like in all professions some people who are probably not well suited to the role or maybe are just tired and grouchy!.

Try not to dwell and make sure you look after yourself, as well as your looking after your dad ❤

pikkumyy77 · 22/11/2024 12:18

Isn’t there something between a little criticism and the destruction if the NHS? The OP’s post is customer feedback and should be taken as such. Its not the end of tge eirld. Everyone in the UK is more likely to be in OP’s position at some pount than they are to be in tge rude nurses position. Everyone is going to go to A and E or go find a relative there eventually so the focus should be on recognizing that there is a morale/staffing problem that needs solving nit shaming and blaming OP into silence.

Ilikeadrink14 · 22/11/2024 12:14

TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 21:49

@Tittat50

This poster is just trolling and looking for a rise, just ignore them.

I wondered the same thing! It is difficult to know which posts on here are real and which are wind-ups, so I hope I haven’t just wasted an hour on something that is false!

Pussycat22 · 22/11/2024 12:08

Hellskitchen24 yep ..God help em when NHS is withdrawn. The deaths and chronic ill health will be phenomenal. People have no idea how much private healthcare costs. Private healthcare insurance only covers so much. You only have to look at the price of a cosmetic procedure to see how expensive it is. If you have a long term condition as an inpatient you will end up selling your house!!!

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 22/11/2024 12:02

Lol at nursing staff throwing threats around on here as a way to persuade everyone that they're not abusive to patients and their families.

MagentaRocks · 22/11/2024 11:47

I was in A&E for hours the other day. The receptionist was rude from the start. The first nurse I saw clearly didn’t want to be there. Luckily the rest were lovely. I saw people asking the receptionist where they were in the queue and being told, so after I had been waiting over an hour longer than the first nurse told me I would be waiting I went up to the receptionist and said ‘sorry to bother you, is there any idea on how long I might be waiting?’. He was awful, told me I hadn’t been waiting long (I had - over 4 hours), that the wait was over 5 hours. I asked if that was from now or from when I came in. He didn’t answer my question. He looked at me as if I was stupid for asking and said that I had hours left to wait as it takes 3 hours for bloods to come back. I told him I was told it would be 1.5 hours but 3 to see a doctor.

I was there for something potentially very serious, on my own, in a boiling hot, busy temporary A&E and a bit of kindness, or at least politeness is not too much to ask.

I had a text asking for feedback and I was very thorough making sure to keep it balanced and singing the praises of the ones that were kind, pleasant and polite.

Working somewhere like that you should realise that sometimes people are distressed and upset and might forget a pleasantry. I work for the emergency services myself so am used to people being panicked, worried, upset and calm and I have never spoken to someone like the receptionist spoke to me, or the nurse to the OP.

Lookingoutside · 22/11/2024 11:45

YANBU.

A lot of nurses don't have the brains they were born with. Compassion fatigue and burnout may be the reason but this piece of shit was also on a power trip, as are many of her type.

Eventually she'll get slapped so well done for not being the one to do it.

McGregor33 · 22/11/2024 11:43

I would complain, the way some of the Doctors and Nurses feel think they’re allowed to speak to a patient or their family is horrific.

Usually I’m not one for complaining, but after another long wait at our local assessment unit, a pompous dr and nurses who couldn’t care less I complained.

hellgirl · 22/11/2024 11:43

A few year ago my dad ended up in A and E.

Previously he had had a terrible stroke, leaving him not able to walk and only had the use of one arm. He was living in a care home at the time and his legs has swollen up terribly, his breathing was awful and he had a chest infection.

The GP was called and called an ambulance to take him to A and E.

Not only did the staff keep asking me why was he sent to hospital but whenever I went to the desk to ask something, I only did it a couple of times - they would totally ignore me, not even acknowledge me.

My dad had heart failure, caught pneumonia in hospital and we were told he would be dead within a week.

Even then, while he was dying, the nurses didn't come when we asked. They just didn't seem to care and I remember being told, he was priority as he was so ill.

It was torture watching my dad die, and the lack of care and respect from the nurses was disgusting.

Hellskitchen24 · 22/11/2024 11:42

Yet another MN thread slagging off nurses and the NHS. Worse than the Daily Mail on here.

Wheresthebeach · 22/11/2024 11:26

TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 21:12

Hi, I'm looking for "Dad's Name"

Completely reasonable - very rude of the nurse.

MrsJoanDanvers · 22/11/2024 11:21

As a HCP, I couldn’t imagine pulling someone up like that-rude, unnecessary and achieves nothing. Especially when someone is tired, stressed and worried about someone. I have had colleagues like that and feel ashamed when they treat patients as inconveniences when they’re the reason they have a job. That said, we do put up with a load of shite-my daughter has said she’ll never work with the general public and I can’t say I blame her.

TheBluntTurtle · 22/11/2024 11:17

TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 21:08

This is a joke right.

That’s a really mean reply OP. How would you feel if it was your dad who was the person coughing or mentally ill and someone said that of him? They don’t want to be in A&E either - they would sooner be fit and well at home, or at least in a bed being treated. Don’t take your frustrations about the hospital out on the patients- every hospital has a PALs scheme for complaints - write an official complaint and try to get improvements rather than speak badly of ill people online.

PicturePlace · 22/11/2024 11:16

Also he's diabetic.

Well I guess you should have sourced some food for him, so. That would be a priority.

PicturePlace · 22/11/2024 11:15

Also losing your rag does not mean flying off the handle.

That's actually exactly what it means. What do you think it means?

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 22/11/2024 11:13

Hope your dad is recovering. Well done at not responding, my mantra is and breath in these situations which sadly are becoming more frequent.

BuildbyNumbere · 22/11/2024 11:09

Reading the responses from the OP on here to comments posters have made says a lot about how she spoke to the nurse that day!

pikkumyy77 · 22/11/2024 11:06

WitchesCauldron · 22/11/2024 10:37

Try putting yourself in the place of the nurse- we get rude abusive people all day every day. The state of the NHS is not their fault. Get over yourself.

Get over yourself is such a strange thing to say. Op is not haughtily complaining about substandard tea service: she is complaining that the health care service is descending into chaos and so understaffed and underresourced that staff cannot keep their word (food for patient), cannot keep their patients safe (no rooms, not enough orderlies, and can not even keep their composure (needlessly rude to patient family member who ought to be assumed to be in distress.)

It seems odd that it bears repeating but saying to a distressed person seeking her father in a hospital ward “didn’t your parents teach you manners” is absurdly cruel and horrifically out of place. What if OP’s mother has died? What if her father is dying? What if they are estranged snd she is turning up to reconcile with him?

C8H10N4O2 · 22/11/2024 10:57

WitchesCauldron · 22/11/2024 10:37

Try putting yourself in the place of the nurse- we get rude abusive people all day every day. The state of the NHS is not their fault. Get over yourself.

So your normal reaction to anxious and tired relatives is to give them a lecture on appropriate greeting modes?

That's a style of communication which is designed to provoke trouble, not keep communications smooth and constructive.

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 10:50

WitchesCauldron · 22/11/2024 10:45

It's your responsibility.
In all honesty you seem like you were spoiling for a fight. You could always train as a nurse and see how it feels from the other side? You might not be so keen to take to a forum over a trivial interaction with a member of health staff.

Bt it's not always possible (already explained why if you can be bothered to look back) and my experience has been that anyone in a&e awaiting a bed has been offered food.

WitchesCauldron · 22/11/2024 10:45

TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 21:31

He hadn't eaten for 20 hours and they said they would get him some food.

It's your responsibility.
In all honesty you seem like you were spoiling for a fight. You could always train as a nurse and see how it feels from the other side? You might not be so keen to take to a forum over a trivial interaction with a member of health staff.

vivainsomnia · 22/11/2024 10:41

Distress/ anxiety/ fear/ neuro diversity and MH problems can cause people to lose the ability to filter or maintain social customs
And who says the nurse doesn't experience all the above herself?

These are no excuses for bad manners and personally I'm tired of those who uses this to treat others with little respect.

Sadly, it does too often take someone to challenge and make a point for it to sink in.

WitchesCauldron · 22/11/2024 10:37

TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 20:55

Spent 18 hours in A&E with elderly Dad in a corridor after he had a fall, they forgot to give him food, so I had to get some from the canteen, messed up his bloods twice, couldn't get pills into him so I had to help with that that. Also someone coughing up their lungs right next to me and Dad for several hours. There was also an incident where one of the patients in the mental health unit who was having an episode decided to start shouting at everyone in A&E.

Once he got onto a ward, I did a 2 hour journey home got 2 hours sleep, 2 hour journey back

Went to the nurses station on the ward, asked where my Dad is. Ward sister greeted me "what happened to hello, didn't your parents teach you any manners?"

Was I unreasonable to suppress the absolute rage boiling up in me and apologise and not fly off the fucking handle?

Try putting yourself in the place of the nurse- we get rude abusive people all day every day. The state of the NHS is not their fault. Get over yourself.

anotherdayroundthesun · 22/11/2024 06:09

OP - a positive of your post is that it inspired me not to lose my rag with an NHS receptionist who was a Rottweiler in lipstick. Thank you 💐

Crossingabsolutelyeverything · 21/11/2024 23:59

MichaelSchofield1991 · 21/11/2024 10:03

I have just read this properly, I am absolutely gobsmacked that you have insinuated I would harm patients. I would be more careful about what you write on here if I were you, that is absolutely insane! If you actually knew me, you would be very embarrassed.

I would be more careful what you write about on here if I were you

Again with the threats. You can’t help yourselves.