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to have not lost my rag at ward sister

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TheTidyBear · 18/11/2024 20:55

Spent 18 hours in A&E with elderly Dad in a corridor after he had a fall, they forgot to give him food, so I had to get some from the canteen, messed up his bloods twice, couldn't get pills into him so I had to help with that that. Also someone coughing up their lungs right next to me and Dad for several hours. There was also an incident where one of the patients in the mental health unit who was having an episode decided to start shouting at everyone in A&E.

Once he got onto a ward, I did a 2 hour journey home got 2 hours sleep, 2 hour journey back

Went to the nurses station on the ward, asked where my Dad is. Ward sister greeted me "what happened to hello, didn't your parents teach you any manners?"

Was I unreasonable to suppress the absolute rage boiling up in me and apologise and not fly off the fucking handle?

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WriteAPaperNow · 22/11/2024 21:38

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 21:16

Definitely don't want to be on your ward. Are you the one who left my 93yo dad to piss himself?

There are a couple of nurses at least on this thread who represent the worst of the NHS. So depressing. And frightening. Esp for those who haven’t got families to advocate for them.

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 21:37

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 21:22

I'm so confused. And that is a really weird response. Maybe you need to talk that through with someone. My post above was stating that they should have acted quicker if he had sepsis.
So would you rather a nurse faff around and not give your parent the treatment they need when they need it? It seems like nurses can't do wrong from right.

My dad's experience was no treatment that was needed and just left on a trolley and ignored for hours. That was when no one was allowed to accompany him. Every time he was admitted it was the same.
Then there was DHs uncle who would have died of his aunt hadn't kicked up a stink. Just left until then, once he was looked at he was rushed straight in for life saving surgery. When DS2 had major surgery to correct a facial abnormality as a teenager he was left with no bed pan and nothing to drink for hours. With his jaw wired he was only offered food that needed chewing and he couldn't even get into his mouth. Adult ward so we couldn't stay to see he was ok. A friend has an son with learning difficulties so she could stay to help when he had surgery, she was horrified that ignoring patients who couldn't get out of bed until they pissed themselves was the norm. Friend, Uncle and DS were pre covid so it's not a new post covid issue.
My experiences have been 50% really good 50% bloody disgusting. There seems to be no in-between. That's why you get that reaction.

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 21:36

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 21:26

They didn't know he had sepsis till they'd taken the first Canula out and he started deteriorating. They were treating him for a UTI till then.

A+E are generally very hot on sepsis, there are certain criteria which if are met, triggers the sepsis pathway. IV antibiotics usually have to be given within a certain time frame. If you want to complain, I would ask about this. How is your Dad doing now?

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 21:29

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 21:29

Nonsense. I too would love to hear the nurse's side of things. If the way you are twisting things on here is indicative, reality could be quite different from your version of events.

Nope I'm still not minimising the abuse. Goodnight.

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ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 21:29

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 21:24

Given that you don't have any empathy I doubt you had any sympathy.

Nonsense. I too would love to hear the nurse's side of things. If the way you are twisting things on here is indicative, reality could be quite different from your version of events.

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 21:26

Never assume notes are read. FIL got given drugs he has an anaphylactic reaction to. DS2 got told there was nothing wrong with his foot when his hand was injured. Contact details ignored for DS1 and dad. Total confusion when DH was nil by mouth because notes not read - and he had a sign over his bed but a nurse had a right go at him telling him he needed to eat to get better.

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 21:26

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 21:22

I'm so confused. And that is a really weird response. Maybe you need to talk that through with someone. My post above was stating that they should have acted quicker if he had sepsis.
So would you rather a nurse faff around and not give your parent the treatment they need when they need it? It seems like nurses can't do wrong from right.

They didn't know he had sepsis till they'd taken the first Canula out and he started deteriorating. They were treating him for a UTI till then.

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TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 21:24

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 21:22

Given your very obvious lack of empathy for anyone other than yourself, any sympathy I had for you has evaporated. Good night.

Given that you don't have any empathy I doubt you had any sympathy.

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ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 21:22

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:58

No you were just trying to get me to minimise abuse and you're still doing it, and I'm still not going to.

Given your very obvious lack of empathy for anyone other than yourself, any sympathy I had for you has evaporated. Good night.

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 21:22

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 21:16

Definitely don't want to be on your ward. Are you the one who left my 93yo dad to piss himself?

I'm so confused. And that is a really weird response. Maybe you need to talk that through with someone. My post above was stating that they should have acted quicker if he had sepsis.
So would you rather a nurse faff around and not give your parent the treatment they need when they need it? It seems like nurses can't do wrong from right.

WearyAuldWumman · 22/11/2024 21:17

Rosscameasdoody · 22/11/2024 18:39

And there was I assuming that staff read notes.

I posted upthread about my mum who is in her nineties and has advanced dementia - admitted after a fall. If I hadn’t visited at lunchtime one day l would never have been able to intervene and prevent the hospital social worker continuing a completely illegal interview with no one present to advocate for mum, despite having provided full copies of the LPA conferring on me the responsibility of health and welfare. She also had an advance directive regarding care - all of which he was unaware of because he hadn’t bothered to check. To him she was just another bed blocker he needed to shift and he was halfway to making full time care arrangements in complete ignorance of the fact that she has a home here with us and a private care package in place - full details of which were in her notes, on computer at the nurses station. The incompetence is breathtaking.

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It's dreadful.

I had this happen so many times with my parents and my husband - staff simply not checking their notes.

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 21:16

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 20:28

I'm just saying, albeit bluntly, that if it was a time critical situation, and her Dad was indeed dying, then they should not have wasted time.

Definitely don't want to be on your ward. Are you the one who left my 93yo dad to piss himself?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2024 21:03

I would be astonished the hear a ward sister speak to a patient's relative that way, because it would impact very negatively on them should the relative make a complaint about it. Most people have more sense of self preservation than to take a risk like that.

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:58

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 20:54

No I was saying that "great" and "my mother's death" don't usually pop up in the same sentence. Stop being so passive aggressive.

No you were just trying to get me to minimise abuse and you're still doing it, and I'm still not going to.

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TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:57

pikkumyy77 · 22/11/2024 20:47

OP you have really been treated awfully in this thread . I don’t know what the supposed defenders of the NHS think they are accomplishing—all it makes me think is that you were lucky that mere rudeness from the ward nurse was all you encountered. The absolute hostility to you and the lack of empathy for A and E patients and elderly patients these posters are displaying is just horrifying. I would not be at all comfortable if I thought they were an example of nursing care n a ward where I had an elderly relative. They are entirely focused on their own ego and not in patient care.

Thankyou

As I've mentioned before the vast majority of medical staff in the NHS and who have posted on here are excellent.

But it's good to be aware that there's some on here who are trying to justify their own sociopathic tendencies dressed up as "Defending the NHS". They are doing anything other than that.

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Hunglikeapolevaulter · 22/11/2024 20:56

I was having a really traumatic time and because of that, silly things like that were way off my radar.

It can make you really sensitive as well, though, and little things can loom really large.
When my brother suddenly collapsed and died a few hours later in hospital, I know my SIL found the kindness of the staff a real comfort at an otherwise unbearable time. Unkindness would have sent her over the edge at that point, I think.

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 20:54

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:33

So what you're saying is everyone should react to abuse the way you react to it?

Think I'll pass on that, thanks.

No I was saying that "great" and "my mother's death" don't usually pop up in the same sentence. Stop being so passive aggressive.

pikkumyy77 · 22/11/2024 20:47

OP you have really been treated awfully in this thread . I don’t know what the supposed defenders of the NHS think they are accomplishing—all it makes me think is that you were lucky that mere rudeness from the ward nurse was all you encountered. The absolute hostility to you and the lack of empathy for A and E patients and elderly patients these posters are displaying is just horrifying. I would not be at all comfortable if I thought they were an example of nursing care n a ward where I had an elderly relative. They are entirely focused on their own ego and not in patient care.

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:38

PicturePlace · 22/11/2024 20:37

Abuse is a ridiculous term here. A nurse said a rude comment to you. Move on with your life. Abuse? FGS.

Well if you knew what it was you might be able to identify it in yourself.

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PicturePlace · 22/11/2024 20:37

Abuse is a ridiculous term here. A nurse said a rude comment to you. Move on with your life. Abuse? FGS.

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:33

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 20:25

FGS it wasn't "great that I could shrug off comments like this" when my mother was dying. I was having a really traumatic time and because of that, silly things like that were way off my radar. It seems your sensitivity runs one way.

So what you're saying is everyone should react to abuse the way you react to it?

Think I'll pass on that, thanks.

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MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 20:28

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2024 20:17

Hope I'm never a patient on your ward. Have you had an empathy bypass?

I'm just saying, albeit bluntly, that if it was a time critical situation, and her Dad was indeed dying, then they should not have wasted time.

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 20:28

MichaelSchofield1991 · 22/11/2024 20:11

Oh dear.
If they waited all that time to give him IV medication (on the ward), it was clearly not an emergency. We certainly do not waste time (hours!) going back and forth, trying to persuade patients they need medication. They tend not to particularly care, if they are at deaths door! We have to act in the patients best interests, if there is a question regarding capacity in an emergency.

The IV refusal wasn't for the first IV. And at that point the delirium had subsided but the infection hadn't. My Dad had capacity and was refusing treatment, hence why the Dr called me up.

You came into this thread with an agenda and you continue to fill the blanks in with that agenda.

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PicturePlace · 22/11/2024 20:25

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 22/11/2024 17:05

My own mother has been ill recently. I have sat with her quite a bit. It never occurred to me to be angry that nobody was paying me to do this.

And if you think the OP is angry that she wasn't paid then you've misunderstood her posts entirely. She's pointed out that she had a much longer, harder, more stressful stint of it than the rude woman whose job it actually was to be there.

Well no, she was complaining about having an "unpaid shift" of sitting with her own Dad when he was ill.

ParadigmShrift · 22/11/2024 20:25

TheTidyBear · 22/11/2024 19:14

It's all great that you could shrug off comments like this but what if she does it to someone else and it makes them give up?

Someone dies, that's what.

I'm not going to minimise someone whose got others lives in their hands being abusive as silly.

FGS it wasn't "great that I could shrug off comments like this" when my mother was dying. I was having a really traumatic time and because of that, silly things like that were way off my radar. It seems your sensitivity runs one way.