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Would I be unreasonable to ask people to leave by a certain time on Christmas Day?

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Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 08:34

Just that really? We are hosting both sets of grandparents and youngest in the house isn't even a year old yet.
I just think by the evening I'll be really tired after a morning of excitement with the kids then cooking and hosting.

Last time we hosted, our parents didn't leave until nearly midnight and it was very much a party atmosphere with lots of alcohol and music on loud after dinner. My social battery definitely doesn't last as long as my husband's and while I enjoyed it, I was glad when they finally left.

I just feel that I would like a more calm, child centric Christmas this year since we have a baby so I was thinking of asking people if they could book taxis home shortly after dinner. I think my parents would be OK with this and I can be honest with them but my in laws are they type to take offence, especially my MIL as she will take it that she isn't wanted at all.

So am I unreasonable to give everyone a "home time"?

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goingforbronze · 18/11/2024 11:03

There's nothing wrong with setting new expectations this year as everything's different with kids in the picture, especially a baby. Perhaps eat earlier so guests still have a fair amount of time to relax afterwards.
Hard bitten socialisers/drinkers may take exception but they can move the party to their house if they want. Don't set a precedent of doing all the hosting - you may come to resent it! Reasonable people will be understanding.

Onelifeonly22 · 18/11/2024 11:03

I think it is totally reasonable! If you'd said you were worried about hosting on your baby's first christmas, I feel most posters would have advised you to set a time to leave as a compromise but as you've suggested that, everyone is telling you you are unreasonable! 🙃I would just say something in advance like "'please come from X until Y when we will be getting in our pjs 😁"

Onlyvisiting · 18/11/2024 11:01

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:51

That's a lovely idea but out of the 6 adults we are hosting, all of them love a good drink and drink regularly. It's only 1 person out of the 6 that causes an atmosphere after one too many (and they can never remember it the next day) so it feels a shame to restrict every one else's enjoyment because of one individual. I would also like to have a few drinks once baby is down for the night too.

Surely with 2 kids in the house at least 1 person needs to remain sober? And by sober I mean under the legal driving limit

CoffeeCantata · 18/11/2024 11:00

Make a (jokey but not jokey) invitation and put 'Carriages at ....pm' on the bottom.

TheBigSalami · 18/11/2024 10:59

I can’t imagine doing this. It’s really miserable and unwelcoming.

Why not take yourself off to bed if you’re very tired and let your guests enjoy themselves?

Caroparo52 · 18/11/2024 10:59

Its just 1 day. I would designate Boxing Day as total Us in PJs day. I would forewarn guests that you may be retiring up to bed as understandably more knackered with baby etc...but they are welcome to stay but quietly please.

Poodleville · 18/11/2024 10:58

YANBU. Ask your husband to handle the comms with his family. Sounds like your parents will be ok with it. I would possibly ask them to help you set the scene when the day comes too I.e. 5.30 'thank you daughter and sil it's been a lovely day, we'd better start making a move so you can enjoy some family time on your baby's first xmas'.

Dweetfidilove · 18/11/2024 10:52

Haggia · 18/11/2024 10:48

I swear this thread is divided into considerate guests and CF guests 😂

I notice not many CF guests are saying if you’re invited to mine, stay as long as you like. They’re the ones saying don’t host then, I wouldn’t come, let your DH party on…😂

I host most Christmases. I never kick anyone out, so people stay as long as they like.
Boxing Day is mine though, so everyone knows I'm neither hosting nor visiting on that day.

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:51

BibbityBobbityToo · 18/11/2024 10:34

Stop the alcohol service after xmas lunch, make them coffee while muttering, "yes, lovely to have you, we must do it again another year blah blah". Sit and yawn for a while. Get baby ready for bed, skip bath time though or all the Grannies will want to 'help'. Get your own jammies on and if they are still hanging around, take yourself and baby to bed leaving DH to get on with it.

If the grandads are old fashioned, a spot of breastfeeding with everything hanging out might have them scurrying off too 🤣 (that worked for me after giving birth a few days before xmas).

That's a lovely idea but out of the 6 adults we are hosting, all of them love a good drink and drink regularly. It's only 1 person out of the 6 that causes an atmosphere after one too many (and they can never remember it the next day) so it feels a shame to restrict every one else's enjoyment because of one individual. I would also like to have a few drinks once baby is down for the night too.

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AlertCat · 18/11/2024 10:50

Allfur · 18/11/2024 10:46

Its a tad party pooperish, it's only one eve - they'll all be dead one day, enjoy them now

But if you’re up early with a baby, then you’re cooking Christmas lunch/dinner for a big group, and being social as well as being mum, that’s exhausting! Not to mention that it’s dismaying to get up the next morning and find the mess and washing up from last night awaiting you. Perfectly reasonable to enjoy the company during the day but also want to tidy up and wind down in pyjamas before going to bed- it makes everything so much less fraught. Planning to include too much never ends well here, but it’s a lesson I’ve admittedly been slow to learn- fair play to OP to go for a day she can manage and that won’t bring its own hangover of resentment and recriminations on Boxing Day.

YearningForAWinteryWinter · 18/11/2024 10:50

Haggia · 18/11/2024 10:48

I swear this thread is divided into considerate guests and CF guests 😂

I notice not many CF guests are saying if you’re invited to mine, stay as long as you like. They’re the ones saying don’t host then, I wouldn’t come, let your DH party on…😂

Or maybe it's considerate hosts ?

Dweetfidilove · 18/11/2024 10:50

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:18

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I think it's inappropriate for a husband and wife to leave an event seperately.

I don't think that's old-fashioned at all, and ideally you would.
If my social battery runs out at 5pm when he/the party can run until 11pm, it's reasonable he might want to stay longer and that's fine. Or you may work out a suitable middle ground.

Haggia · 18/11/2024 10:48

I swear this thread is divided into considerate guests and CF guests 😂

I notice not many CF guests are saying if you’re invited to mine, stay as long as you like. They’re the ones saying don’t host then, I wouldn’t come, let your DH party on…😂

TheYearOfSmallThings · 18/11/2024 10:47

AGoingConcern · 18/11/2024 10:13

We invited them for dinner and scheduled it at 6:30 with a mention of an early morning the next day when we asked if they could make it that early. They understood that meant dinner, not drinking all night. When we invited family for Easter we called and said “Would you like to join us for dinner and an egg hunt on Easter? Auntie Carol is driving down that morning so we were thinking of people coming over from noon to 6ish.”

There are a lot of ways to directly and indirectly frame an invitation to set expectations. Since this is a change from prior years (reasonably so with a new baby) OP will likely need to be more direct.

Not everyone wants an up all night drinking to loud music Christmas to be their norm even if that’s what your family likes. But if OP’s family members want to have an open-ended drink all night Christmas they could always choose to host one.

Edited

Your example is specific "come to dinner but we have an early start tomorrow". That is absolutely fine but completely different from saying it is the norm for social invitations to come with a fixed end time, as you suggested 👇.

Invitations to come celebrate from X to Y time are the norm, not some wild idea. I took my DC to a birthday party this weekend and none of the guests were offended that it was scheduled from 10am-1pm

HangingStars · 18/11/2024 10:47

If they pre-book taxis then absolutely give them an earlier time, and I’d think it’s easier to do so without sounding rude too - “we’re not planning to make an evening party of it this year, so suggest maybe booking taxis for 8.30ish?”

Allfur · 18/11/2024 10:46

Its a tad party pooperish, it's only one eve - they'll all be dead one day, enjoy them now

Tink3rbell30 · 18/11/2024 10:45

Surely they have the common sense to leave at an appropriate time as you have a baby now? If they're not the thoughtful type then you need to give them a going home time.

DGPP · 18/11/2024 10:43

I don’t think you can tell guests when they need to leave, no. If you feel like that, don’t host

jewelfantasy · 18/11/2024 10:42

TheSilkWorm · 18/11/2024 10:40

Why not?

yeah I dont get this either, whats wrong with that?

What kind of dickhead thinks its fine to get drunk and disorderly and stay up until all hours when a family has a new baby they'll likely have to get up with in the night.

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:41

HangingStars · 18/11/2024 10:36

I think it sounds absolutely hideous having to hide off by yourself on Christmas night whilst extended family all get pissed! It would be my idea of hell having everyone there that late. Will they be leaving under their own steam? Or will you be driving them home?

i would definitely set expectations in advance and say something like “we’re really looking forward to seeing you all for Christmas dinner this year - just to pre-warn you, since we have the children all day this year we would like to enjoy some quiet wind down/family time in the evening so I hope you won’t be offended that we don’t plan to make an evening party of it this year” so it doesn’t give an exact kick out time but makes it clear that it’s different to last year?

No driving for us, they usually prebook taxi's home which is why I need to communicate a specific time without being rude or it being taken like we can't wait to get rid of them.

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YouveGotAFastCar · 18/11/2024 10:41

I mean, to me that sounds reasonable - but it's obviously not to your collective family, who prefer to stay later, or to your husband, who seems happy.

You've got a child this year, so you could always make everyone aware that bedtime will be 7:30 or whenever and it'll need to be quiet downstairs after that point, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll leave...

I think a proper invite might be the way forward, with a timeline like you get for a wedding reception. 12 - 1pm, arrive. 3pm Christmas dinner, 5pm Queens Speech, 7pm final toast, 7:30pm carriages type thing (I've absolutely made that up, obviously). Then people have a clear impression of what to expect, and when to plan to leave.

I'd also caution against having anyone over too soon - lots of friends warned us that they wish they'd had mornings opening presents with their little ones, and that people constantly arriving at various times and settling them in really distracted a parent, so I'd be planning quiet time in the morning to do presents with baby, and then expect people to stay until bedtime.

TheSilkWorm · 18/11/2024 10:40

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/11/2024 10:29

If you don't want to host, don't. You can't give them a time to leave by!

Why not?

Artistbythewater · 18/11/2024 10:39

I really can’t see why anyone invited for a catered Christmas lunch with their little grandchildren would have any issue ensuring they left at a reasonable and appropriate time, after helping as much as possible throughout the day.

Most wouldn’t need warning, they would do it naturally.

The problem drinkers in this scenario appear to be calling the shots.

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:39

Sidebeforeself · 18/11/2024 10:24

Eh? Why is it inappropriate for a husband and wife to leave separately? You had my sympathies up to that point…

Perhaps I am unreasonable there but I think I feel that way because my husband works away from home where he can be gone for weeks at a time so it works out that we actually only live together for half of the year. Therefore I think any time we have together is precious so I wouldn't want to waste it by not turning up/leaving events as a team so to speak.

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Cookiesandcream1989 · 18/11/2024 10:38

You don't necessarily have to kick them out, but make it clear that baby's bedtime is x o'clock and so you will be having quiet time from then onwards, winding down, no music, "maybe just watching some films quietly, and then I'll probably have an early night too, what with the baby and everything, and if you don't like it you can piss off home".

But no, absolutely not unreasonable at all. Make it clear to them now though, so they can adjust/make other plans if they want etc,