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Would I be unreasonable to ask people to leave by a certain time on Christmas Day?

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Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 08:34

Just that really? We are hosting both sets of grandparents and youngest in the house isn't even a year old yet.
I just think by the evening I'll be really tired after a morning of excitement with the kids then cooking and hosting.

Last time we hosted, our parents didn't leave until nearly midnight and it was very much a party atmosphere with lots of alcohol and music on loud after dinner. My social battery definitely doesn't last as long as my husband's and while I enjoyed it, I was glad when they finally left.

I just feel that I would like a more calm, child centric Christmas this year since we have a baby so I was thinking of asking people if they could book taxis home shortly after dinner. I think my parents would be OK with this and I can be honest with them but my in laws are they type to take offence, especially my MIL as she will take it that she isn't wanted at all.

So am I unreasonable to give everyone a "home time"?

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popcorncake · 18/11/2024 12:57

@Itsallfunngamesuntil i think that’s a very good message. I find it baffling anyone would consider getting rowdy drunk late into the night would be appropriate when someone has a new baby.

Sone people seem to have very little self awareness it seems

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:54

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 12:37

So guests are allowed to do whatever the fuck they like at your home are they? If they want to hold a pissed up rave until the early hours (even though you've got a new baby) that's cool with you, is it? The OP is hosting, she's doing a nice Christmas dinner for her ILs, her own parents and step son and is happy to continue hosting until around 8pm. She simply doesn't want them blast out loud music and get shit faced until midnight. Because of that you think she's a bad host? I would say that any grandparents who think this is acceptable behaviour are fucking awful guests. Jeez.

So guests are allowed to do whatever the fuck they like at your home are they?

Erm , I wouldn’t go as far as “whatever they want”- pissing up the walls wouldn’t be acceptable for example 😆. . But if I invited people for Christmas , I would expect them to eat, drink, be merry and stay as long as they were enjoying themselves. Thats my idea of being hospitable/ a good host/ looking after your guests. If I didn’t want to do that, I personally wouldn’t offer to host. I personally don’t think giving people a 9pm curfew is much in the spirit of Christmas.

Itsallfunngamesuntil · 18/11/2024 12:52

@Threetrees745 - Would this whattasapp message work?

Hi Everyone

Not long now to Christmas – we are only about five weeks away! I am sure you are all busy buying cards, presents and stocking up in anticipation of the Christmas festivities.

This year, we are planning to eat lunch at 2.30pm, so please feel free to arrive any time between 1pm and 2pm. With wee Archie now on the scene I’m afraid we can no longer host as late as we have in the past, so we need to start winding down by 7pm.

Would you prefer to book your own taxis for around 6.45pm or, I am more than happy to arrange this? If I don’t hear back I will assume you have organised this yourselves.

Really looking forward to seeing all of you for Christmas Day.

Love the TheTrees
HO HO HO x

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/11/2024 12:50

ManchesterLu · 18/11/2024 11:58

Yeah, if it was my in laws, I'd leave them with DH and just go to bed. Once it gets past normal bedtime, I genuinely think it's fine to do this - particularly if you've hosted them all day.

Yes, and I might want to shower, put pj's on and relax a bit once baby is asleep. An entire day of cooking/cleaning as you go/tending to baby and hosting and I'd be wrecked. 😵‍💫

decorativecushions · 18/11/2024 12:47

I think a lot of people are missing the point here. It's not that OP wants to go to bed, she just wants her house back! To get things into order before bed, tidy up, maybe chill out in the living room after a busy day.

You're not unreasonable at all OP.

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 12:37

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:27

She’s “allowed” to do whatever she wants of course. But it’s Christmas, and if I were hosting I would be hospitable ; if I wasn’t prepared to do that, I wouldn’t offer to host.

So guests are allowed to do whatever the fuck they like at your home are they? If they want to hold a pissed up rave until the early hours (even though you've got a new baby) that's cool with you, is it? The OP is hosting, she's doing a nice Christmas dinner for her ILs, her own parents and step son and is happy to continue hosting until around 8pm. She simply doesn't want them blast out loud music and get shit faced until midnight. Because of that you think she's a bad host? I would say that any grandparents who think this is acceptable behaviour are fucking awful guests. Jeez.

Isatis · 18/11/2024 12:36

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 09:16

Perhaps a bit of a drip feed but one of the reasons I'm keen to close the bar early so to speak is that one of the family members we are hosting has form for getting too drunk and argumentative which has spoiled some lovely events in the past by creating an uncomfortable atmosphere. I'm keen to mitigate this as I don't want the memory of my baby's first Christmas being married if something like that happens again.

Also.i'm not kicking people out after dinner. We are asking people to arrive for 2pm, dinner at 4pm then Perhaps leave at 9. In the past they have stayed until almost midnight.

That sounds perfectly reasonable. Go for it!

Justwondering36 · 18/11/2024 12:34

Would it work? What I’ve found with my in-laws who don’t leave is that even when we specify an end time and explain why (for very real reason around health or work), they ignore it and we end up feeling awkward and pointing them to door. It has resulted in us inviting them less tbh.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/11/2024 12:33

OP, don't host. Go to your parents. Leave when you're tired and have a quiet evening st home. Visit in-laws next day and do same.

Parky04 · 18/11/2024 12:31

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 18/11/2024 09:25

I mean it's fine, but personally the year we had babies and did a "just us" Christmas it was so boring. And we're not a big party and drinks family.

It just turns into any other day when you're getting the baby and the child off to bed at a certain time. It's lovely having everyone up, kids asleep under the table, grandad nodding off in the chair.

We are all different. We have spent the last 25 Christmases with just the 4 of us. Spending Christmas day with others would fill me with dread.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 18/11/2024 12:31

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 11:03

No one will be driving. It will be taxis there and back for our guests.

This is MN at least 1 adult must not drink incase of medical emergency or fire, flood or earthquake

eatreadsleeprepeat · 18/11/2024 12:30

Totally reasonable, and normal to me. Assuming all grandparents live relatively near by. We hosted every year, arrive late morning to see kids open some of their presents, lunch about 2, walk off lunch, play and so on, tea and Christmas cake at about five ‘before you head off’. And then the lovely bit of settling in for a quiet evening just us!
Manage expectations, you are hosting so your rules, but people do need the rules to be made clear.

jewelfantasy · 18/11/2024 12:30

I would be hospitable Cooking xmas dinner for everyone IS hospitable.

Actually, it seems like the OP is only one being hospitable at all here since she is the one doing it every year. If they want to drink until late there is nothing stopping them from hosting - I wonder why they never offer to be "hospitable" eh?

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:29

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 10:18

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I think it's inappropriate for a husband and wife to leave an event seperately.

What is this? 😳

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:27

Codlingmoths · 18/11/2024 12:11

You are allowed to end a party. There is no rule that you’re a shit host if everyone can’t stay for 12+ hours. The op is tired with a baby, there is especially no rule parents of babies must host for any extended time whatsoever. They are all pre booking taxis so transport is no harder to come by if they leave at 8 vs 11pm.

She’s “allowed” to do whatever she wants of course. But it’s Christmas, and if I were hosting I would be hospitable ; if I wasn’t prepared to do that, I wouldn’t offer to host.

UnrealRita · 18/11/2024 12:27

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 18/11/2024 11:06

It seems eminently reasonable to me to let everyone know in advance a rough timetable. An early Christmas dinner with the expectation that an all night party is not in the offing.

At a certain point a final round of cups of tea could be arranged and there could be the handing out of doggy/party bags with a couple of mince pies, kazoos and Christmas stocking fripperies. Andrea Bocelli singing Time to Say Goodbye in the background, an optional extra.

Usher them out on a cloud of fluffy but firm good will!

Blow out the candles, put the lights on, chairs on the table and start hoovering! Grin

RampantIvy · 18/11/2024 12:27

As the taxis have to be pre-booked then the guests will need a departure time, so something along the lines of "as we now have a baby we will be winding down by (insert time), so please can you book your taxis for this time"

Artistbythewater · 18/11/2024 12:26

UnrealRita · 18/11/2024 12:23

Would your parents offer to have everyone afterwards for a drink? In my experience, people can be sensitive about things like this.

They can always host if they are ‘sensitive’ to some very reasonable boundaries!

jewelfantasy · 18/11/2024 12:25

You are allowed to end a party. There is no rule that you’re a shit host if everyone can’t stay for 12+ hours

Yes, some of these responses are so ridiculous. Being a guest in someone's home doesnt mean you can do whatever the fck you like regardless of how selfish or anti social it is to others. Good grief.

UnrealRita · 18/11/2024 12:25

Or ... you could offer them a lift home at 6pm 'before we start putting the baby to bed' so they can both drink.

UnrealRita · 18/11/2024 12:23

Would your parents offer to have everyone afterwards for a drink? In my experience, people can be sensitive about things like this.

Highlandfandango · 18/11/2024 12:21

Our guests arrive at 11.30am and are gone by 6pm - same if we are at theirs for Christmas. 6.5 hours is plenty of time in each others company if you all live locally. Even pre kids there was no partying until midnight!

LlynTegid · 18/11/2024 12:20

Never mind the film or the Baileys. Perfectly reasonable with a young child to want to only have people around in the daytime.

Stretchedresources · 18/11/2024 12:19

Yanbu. A 7pm deadline is needed.

Artistbythewater · 18/11/2024 12:17

It reminds me of the age old quote people will treat you and your babies the way you allow them to treat you.

The onus is on you to set the tone, decide what is served, the timings and ending. It’s your home op. It’s your children that will live with the drunken brawls that you will allow to be their first memories if Christmas.

Never be afraid to have boundaries in your own life, and in your own home.

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