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Would I be unreasonable to ask people to leave by a certain time on Christmas Day?

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Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 08:34

Just that really? We are hosting both sets of grandparents and youngest in the house isn't even a year old yet.
I just think by the evening I'll be really tired after a morning of excitement with the kids then cooking and hosting.

Last time we hosted, our parents didn't leave until nearly midnight and it was very much a party atmosphere with lots of alcohol and music on loud after dinner. My social battery definitely doesn't last as long as my husband's and while I enjoyed it, I was glad when they finally left.

I just feel that I would like a more calm, child centric Christmas this year since we have a baby so I was thinking of asking people if they could book taxis home shortly after dinner. I think my parents would be OK with this and I can be honest with them but my in laws are they type to take offence, especially my MIL as she will take it that she isn't wanted at all.

So am I unreasonable to give everyone a "home time"?

OP posts:
Ohnobackagain · 18/11/2024 13:48

@Threetrees745 I would say something like dinner will be at X, but we will be putting Baby down at Y and spending a bit of time on our own/with SS as DH is not around much and this is our first Christmas with baby so we want to bath them together etc so please could you arrange your taxis for no later than 8.30?’ Obviously I worded that poorly but that’s the message you both need to go with. DH can tell his parents and he can say it is same for both sets.

MarkWithaC · 18/11/2024 13:45

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:27

She’s “allowed” to do whatever she wants of course. But it’s Christmas, and if I were hosting I would be hospitable ; if I wasn’t prepared to do that, I wouldn’t offer to host.

She is prepared to be hospitable, just not until whenever o'clock and with drunken people.

jewelfantasy · 18/11/2024 13:42

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 13:11

But being hospitable is subjective surely? You're saying that she might as well not bother if she doesn't want them to party until midnight. Why does there have to be an "all or nothing" attitude for heaven's sake? She's hosting them all day until 9pm and doing all the cooking and other preparations it takes to make it a nice day. I wouldn't think it was rude or odd if my daughter (or anyone) wanted me to go home at 9pm. How many people would expect to stay up getting drunk and playing loud music on Christmas Day in someone else's home? Especially where there's a baby and another young child. It isn't New Year Eve.

Exactly, besides, everyone has the right to enjoy Christmas and OP has spent the entire day catering to them. Noone is stopping them having a piss up- they can do that at home.

What a weird way to frame it- either I come for 12 hours and get trashed or not at all 😂

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 18/11/2024 13:41

When we were younger and we all had Christmas at MiL's house, she always made it very clear that come 6pm they were chilling and watching the Christmas specials in the living room. The ones looking for a bit of a party came with me and DH back to ours. It was great and meant everyone got to enjoy their night.

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 13:39

dottiedodah · 18/11/2024 13:31

Would they even be able to book a Taxi ? Christmas day is usually booked for the few taxis avaliable .Even cabbies like a break! Maybe say a time about 10.30 or 11.00 say .You can have your Baileys as a night cap! Surely you can watch a film on Boxing Day!

The OP says they go home by taxi every year. It is possible to get taxis at Christmas as a lot of taxi drivers (in my city anyway) are Muslim or Hindu and don't celebrate Christmas. Anyway, if she can't book a taxi why would a 10.30pm or 11pm home time make any difference?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/11/2024 13:35

Just curious... do your guests bring alcohol? If not, I might not have any on hand either... 😁

dottiedodah · 18/11/2024 13:31

Would they even be able to book a Taxi ? Christmas day is usually booked for the few taxis avaliable .Even cabbies like a break! Maybe say a time about 10.30 or 11.00 say .You can have your Baileys as a night cap! Surely you can watch a film on Boxing Day!

Cattery · 18/11/2024 13:31

Booze and music? Sounds like my kind of Christmas 🎄

SunSparkle · 18/11/2024 13:27

I wish I’d had this conversation with my mum last year before she came. I was pregnant, so sick, with an almost 3 year old and by 7pm I was exhausted. We ended up having a massive argument as I just wanted to put my toddler to bed and crawl into bed myself and she wanted to stay and have me entertain her.

set a home time. Bedtime is a good enough point in time to say it’s time to go

Haggia · 18/11/2024 13:26

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 13:11

But being hospitable is subjective surely? You're saying that she might as well not bother if she doesn't want them to party until midnight. Why does there have to be an "all or nothing" attitude for heaven's sake? She's hosting them all day until 9pm and doing all the cooking and other preparations it takes to make it a nice day. I wouldn't think it was rude or odd if my daughter (or anyone) wanted me to go home at 9pm. How many people would expect to stay up getting drunk and playing loud music on Christmas Day in someone else's home? Especially where there's a baby and another young child. It isn't New Year Eve.

Exactly.

I would bloody love to go to someone’s house which THEY have had to clean and tidy, to eat the dinner which THEY have probably paid for, prepped and cooked, to drink the drinks THEY serve and probably paid for, to kick back while THEY probably wash up, to let a nice taxi driver take me home while THEY look at the carnage and decide whether to start clearing up or bath baby, to watch a bit of crap TV before bed and have a lie in the next morning while THEY are up with a baby and welcomed by the day-before house.

But wait a minute, because they didn’t want me to get shitfaced and obnoxious at their expense, didn’t let me belt out Slade at midnight with their baby and stepson asleep, and wouldn’t just bugger off upstairs so I can paaaaartayyyy as long as my life and soul (🤔) self wanted, they are inconsiderate crap hosts, and actually shouldn’t host at all.

Artistbythewater · 18/11/2024 13:26

Nor does she need to keep shitty dysfunctional drunken Christmases that end up in horrible rows. Op can choose a completely different Christmas for her own family.

This is her moment to choose what SHE wants her children’s memories to be - and it’s clearly not the misery alcoholic fuelled arguments rooted in trauma no doubt. But a fresh, wholesome child centric Christmas wrapped around peacefulness, comfort and good food.

MissMoan · 18/11/2024 13:26

It is fine to impose an end time, but do let them know in advance.

Chocolatesnowman2 · 18/11/2024 13:25

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 09:16

Perhaps a bit of a drip feed but one of the reasons I'm keen to close the bar early so to speak is that one of the family members we are hosting has form for getting too drunk and argumentative which has spoiled some lovely events in the past by creating an uncomfortable atmosphere. I'm keen to mitigate this as I don't want the memory of my baby's first Christmas being married if something like that happens again.

Also.i'm not kicking people out after dinner. We are asking people to arrive for 2pm, dinner at 4pm then Perhaps leave at 9. In the past they have stayed until almost midnight.

Perfectly reasonable
In fact longer than I would manage
But probably why I dont host
The children will be exhausted, overwhelmed overtired and probably verging on bad behaviour by evening.
I'd say they need to go by 7 pm ,so you can get the kids to bed by 8 and have time to relax with dh after
It's hard work hosting ,they should respect that

ChocolateTelephone · 18/11/2024 13:20

ArminTamzerian · 18/11/2024 09:12

If you want a chilled evening in your pyjamas, you don't invite guests in the first place!

And who said she'd be doing all the work? Nobody.

She can set limits of course. But not alone, and if your main concern is getting people out there seems little point in having them at all.

Why be so all or nothing about it?! You can invite guests for a defined period, that’s a totally normal thing to do. They’d probably much rather come for part of the day than miss seeing their grandchild altogether.

It sounds like OP hosts because it’s convenient for everyone else if she does. That’s fine but certainly doesn’t mean she’s obliged to host them in manner she doesn’t like. She and her husband can reach an agreement - maybe every other year they have people stay late, or something like that. OP doesn’t have to permanently sacrifice what she wants for the sake of keeping everyone else happy.

usernother · 18/11/2024 13:16

It's one day OP. This sounds like when you book a table at a restaurant and you only have it for a certain time. I think it's rude on Christmas Day to ask people to leave by a certain time. You having Boxing Day to wind down. If you don't, because you're busy on Boxing Day, don't host on Christmas day.

FennelFan · 18/11/2024 13:12

I'd say "just thinking about Christmas and booking taxis. Thinking that this year won't be as wild now that tired hangovers aren't an option thanks to DC so booking taxis for 9 suits us. Really looking forward to seeing you all!"

Mosaic123 · 18/11/2024 13:11

If you want them to go by 9pm may I suggest you get DH to say 8.30 - 9pm for taxis to arrive.

It sounds more relaxed.

ginasevern · 18/11/2024 13:11

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:54

So guests are allowed to do whatever the fuck they like at your home are they?

Erm , I wouldn’t go as far as “whatever they want”- pissing up the walls wouldn’t be acceptable for example 😆. . But if I invited people for Christmas , I would expect them to eat, drink, be merry and stay as long as they were enjoying themselves. Thats my idea of being hospitable/ a good host/ looking after your guests. If I didn’t want to do that, I personally wouldn’t offer to host. I personally don’t think giving people a 9pm curfew is much in the spirit of Christmas.

But being hospitable is subjective surely? You're saying that she might as well not bother if she doesn't want them to party until midnight. Why does there have to be an "all or nothing" attitude for heaven's sake? She's hosting them all day until 9pm and doing all the cooking and other preparations it takes to make it a nice day. I wouldn't think it was rude or odd if my daughter (or anyone) wanted me to go home at 9pm. How many people would expect to stay up getting drunk and playing loud music on Christmas Day in someone else's home? Especially where there's a baby and another young child. It isn't New Year Eve.

Bettergetthebunker · 18/11/2024 13:09

Just give them an end time. If people get offended then that’s their problem.

Threetrees745 · 18/11/2024 13:06

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:58

Err tbf there’s no suggestion anyone has done this. OP is just anticipating/ trying to avoid this potential outcome

Exactly. I think it's a great message to align expectations. I think I'm just getting a bit anxious because I really want it to be memorable for the right reasons. In previous years I was happy to join in with a drunken party until a certain point but I've not specifically said that we are NOT doing that this year and I panicked and thought maybe I need to make that clear.

Maybe my in laws won't even be offended and will totally understand, I think I have offended her a few times without meaning to and I'm not sure if she likes me. We are really different, I'm quite reserved, not touchy feely and not outwardly affectionate and I think she sees me as being cold and was worried the requests to leave early could maybe give the wrong impression.

OP posts:
Orangelight23 · 18/11/2024 13:03

I think it's a bit miserable personally as it's only 1 day and I like to enjoy the whole day. If I felt how you did then I probably wouldn't host.

I know people have different opinions on this though and some people prefer a quieter Christmas. I love the chaos to be honest!

Florafaunafish · 18/11/2024 13:01

ChocolateTelephone · 18/11/2024 09:07

Because if what OP wants is a chilled evening with her baby followed by Christmas tv in her jammies, being banished to bed while a rowdy party goes on in her house isn’t a great solution. Why is it only her husband’s happiness that matters?!

There is room for compromise here, and too many women are left in the shitty position of doing all the work of Christmas without getting to enjoy it the way they want to. I’m not saying that’s definitely what’s happening here, but I don’t see why OP can’t set reasonable limits in her own home when she’s the one hosting.

Agreed!

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 18/11/2024 13:00

My husbands family will party all night. It's accepted now that at some point in the evening I leave them to it and go to bed. Often I don't actually go to sleep but will read and luxuriate in my own company. try it.

Haggia · 18/11/2024 13:00

YearningForAWinteryWinter · 18/11/2024 10:50

Or maybe it's considerate hosts ?

😂😂😂

Tandora · 18/11/2024 12:58

popcorncake · 18/11/2024 12:57

@Itsallfunngamesuntil i think that’s a very good message. I find it baffling anyone would consider getting rowdy drunk late into the night would be appropriate when someone has a new baby.

Sone people seem to have very little self awareness it seems

Err tbf there’s no suggestion anyone has done this. OP is just anticipating/ trying to avoid this potential outcome

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