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To struggle on this salary?

409 replies

Unfff · 17/11/2024 18:10

Or more to the point… think it’s just not worth the hard work anymore?

Had enough. I earn 3,100 a month. My mortgage is 900 and car finance 300. Student loans 300. Nursery is 800 and I get 400 child maintenance. By the time I’ve paid bills… this months heating was 150! Water another 50. Phone bill and Netflix… I’m left with barely anything. My job is really full on and I work late or weekends often… I do t strictly have to but it’s the sort of job where you just do… otherwise things fall apart.

I don’t do expensive things. Can’t actually remember last time I went on holiday! AIBU to find it utterly miserable that taking home this much money means you still can’t just buy a coat or even new jumper etc without having to think twice?!

OP posts:
TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:58

roastiepotato · 17/11/2024 21:53

What? It does go far. It goes to 2.5 lots of m&s bedding some of which is KING SIZE

Super king!

It’s a normal bed size not made to measure.

The OP has food, insurance, and other items to pay out of that 1k, so does not go far. As I have said we are lucky that we can afford to pay £500 on bedding, but we could not survive on 1k a month.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:55

shuggles · 17/11/2024 21:51

@ThisOldThang When couples attend events, it is quite common for them to alternate the driving so that one person can drink as much as they want and the other person stays sober. This negates the need for taxis. If a family didn't have a car large enough to transport everybody, it would mean never drinking at social events or having to pay for taxis.

Bringing all 4 children to a drinking event? Are these drinking events happening so frequently that this dictates the choice of car?

I'd never dream of buying a car that then required us to start renting a different vehicle just to visit family or go away somewhere. What a bizarre and financially incontinent decision that would be.

Obviously, people do rent cars, otherwise car rental businesses wouldn't exist. Calling car rental "bizarre" shows that you must live on a different planet. You might be very young, but I'm old enough to remember a time when almost no one owned an SUV. And yet, there were no issues with getting everyone from A to B back then.

It's not "financially incontinent" either, because it works out cheaper to own a small car and just rent a larger car when needed.

Oversized SUVs for the win. 😉

Cringe. Sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to a right wing American hill billy.

Edited

Taking all 4 kids out at the same time is pretty normal, or should I just leave one at home to fend for themselves.

Renting a car, so people can take their kids to school would mean having another adult to drive them.

People that have only 2 kids should only have a smart car, and rent a car when they need to.

Are you being obtuse or you really believe what you are saying.

roastiepotato · 17/11/2024 21:53

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:25

Ahhh you finally have got it, 1k does not go far over a month…

Where have I said that it does not cost a lot.

Poster on here like yourself think 1k goes as far as it did 10 years ago. Think about how your costs have gone up in the last couple of years but real term wages have not.

What? It does go far. It goes to 2.5 lots of m&s bedding some of which is KING SIZE

BigManLittleDignity · 17/11/2024 21:53

Littlemissgobby · 17/11/2024 21:52

She gets 3100 plus 400 maintenance that’s a large amount most peo0e average salary 25 a year which is about 2000 a month

Rightly, they would be receiving support from UC and child benefit etc. In real terms, a single parent on £25k would have more income.

Beezknees · 17/11/2024 21:53

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:04

🤣
Where have I said that it caused financial difficulties, I have said that we can afford it.

My point is things cost more in a cost of living crisis and people saying that the OP has 1k after essential bills is a lot depending on where they live, it’s not much.

The bedding I purchased was not made from unicorn mane just mid range bedding.

£1k is plenty left over. That's what I have left after bills. The stuff you mentioned is unnecessary, yes if you can afford it by all means buy it but you CAN get bedding for far less so you CAN make £1k go far, I just simply wouldn't spend £500 on bedding or £350 on hair and beauty and I don't feel poor at all with my disposable income.

midgetastic · 17/11/2024 21:52

Most bedding sets at m and a are under £100

Most people don't need to buy multiple bedding sets at any one time

But hey carry on pretending that £500 on bedding is normal and common if it makes you feel better

It won't help OP though to feel better or manage better

Littlemissgobby · 17/11/2024 21:52

LittleRedRidingHoody · 17/11/2024 18:14

Oh that sucks OP. You're definitely not being unreasonable.

I'm sure the MN brigade will be along shortly with good, practical advice - just wanted to commiserate. I was on similar for a few years and it sucked - just surviving and no fun!

Are you not eligible for a bit of UC towards the nursery fees?

She gets 3100 plus 400 maintenance that’s a large amount most peo0e average salary 25 a year which is about 2000 a month

Needtofixmyageingskin · 17/11/2024 21:51

Lookingatthesunset · 17/11/2024 18:24

The child's dad should be paying half of the childcare costs IMO.

Maybe he is? £800 a month doesn't sound like full time nursery. Depends where in country I suppose. My son's nursery is 1700 a month.

BigManLittleDignity · 17/11/2024 21:51

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 17/11/2024 21:29

Sorry but £1,000 disposable income a month is not “barely anything”. Thats £250 a week. Hardly on the poverty line

OP didn’t say she was on the poverty line, just that she’s working hard and money is tight. £250 a week includes food, fuel and other bills. It’s clearly not fun money. No she’s not at the level of needing the food bank but feels tough to her. There’s a lot of pressure being a single earner!

shuggles · 17/11/2024 21:51

@ThisOldThang When couples attend events, it is quite common for them to alternate the driving so that one person can drink as much as they want and the other person stays sober. This negates the need for taxis. If a family didn't have a car large enough to transport everybody, it would mean never drinking at social events or having to pay for taxis.

Bringing all 4 children to a drinking event? Are these drinking events happening so frequently that this dictates the choice of car?

I'd never dream of buying a car that then required us to start renting a different vehicle just to visit family or go away somewhere. What a bizarre and financially incontinent decision that would be.

Obviously, people do rent cars, otherwise car rental businesses wouldn't exist. Calling car rental "bizarre" shows that you must live on a different planet. You might be very young, but I'm old enough to remember a time when almost no one owned an SUV. And yet, there were no issues with getting everyone from A to B back then.

It's not "financially incontinent" either, because it works out cheaper to own a small car and just rent a larger car when needed.

Oversized SUVs for the win. 😉

Cringe. Sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to a right wing American hill billy.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:50

HildaHosmede · 17/11/2024 21:44

😂

So if £500 is a drop in the ocean 'in your circles' (snort), of what relevance was your post to the op?

Op: 'I'm struggling to make ends meet'.

TheSpoonyNavyKnobber: 'Oh well op, I just spent 500 quid on M&S bedding but that's a drop in the ocean to me and my kind'.

Just...why? What goes through your mind whilst typing that bollocks out? 😂

@HildaHosmedeknobber

I gave my examples as there are loads of knobs on here saying that 1k is a fortune when in fact it’s not with petrol, food, insurance etc

We paid £500 on 2 sets of bedding from M&S not Selfridges, which just goes to show the cost of things now. It’s an example which you seem blinkered to.

Me and my kind are just ordinary middle earners living in the South East.

Preppingdonkey · 17/11/2024 21:46

Also the impact of fiscal drag. They froze the bands in 2022 and we have another 4 years of it I think.

HildaHosmede · 17/11/2024 21:44

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:41

In my circles £500 is a drop in the ocean.

It was a one off purchase that will last for a couple of years, I could have gone to Asda and spent £200 but it would not have lasted as long as the ones we have were cheap one from last year.

Calling people morons says more about you than me…

😂

So if £500 is a drop in the ocean 'in your circles' (snort), of what relevance was your post to the op?

Op: 'I'm struggling to make ends meet'.

TheSpoonyNavyKnobber: 'Oh well op, I just spent 500 quid on M&S bedding but that's a drop in the ocean to me and my kind'.

Just...why? What goes through your mind whilst typing that bollocks out? 😂

Starseeking · 17/11/2024 21:42

How long until your DC finished nursery? Count down until you have another £800 each month which will be lovely.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:41

andthat · 17/11/2024 21:27

Ffs. Re-read her posts.

She says continually that she CAN afford it.

she’s making the point that stuff costs £££ these days. Yes, shes tone deaf about the way she’s doing it… but she’s not moaning about her financial situation.

I used a tone deaf way of doing it, as there is countless posters on here saying that 1k is a huge amount when in fact that does not cover all of the OPs bills. This makes the OP question themselves when they are in the thick of it.

As I have said countless times we are lucky enough to be able to afford “luxury items” I had no idea that M&S was considered luxury.

As for questioning my car choice, if we all went on holiday taking 2 cars would be crazy, 2 lots of parking at the airport, 2 lots of ferry tickets, just going to family for the day would cost more in 2 cars than 1, honestly people like some of the posters on here are batshit.

As I have shown £1000 does not go far.

Preppingdonkey · 17/11/2024 21:41

@StressedLP1 yes an inflation calculator like @midgetastic linked.

Bearpawk · 17/11/2024 21:40

Assuming you're single parent and covering everything yourself, yes it's a struggle. A combined income of that much would be pretty low.

ThisOldThang · 17/11/2024 21:39

shuggles · 17/11/2024 21:28

@ThisOldThang Surely you're capable of understanding why travelling in one car is preferable to two - e.g. parents taking it in turns to drive and have a drink.

Weird comment. Taking it turns to drive? Unless you're driving to China, one driver should be enough. It's also possible for a driver to have a drink too.

If you drive to France on holiday, it would be pretty odd to pay for two cars on the ferry/tunnel. What about visiting family in another part of the country?

I would say it's odd to select my car on the basis of having a holiday in France, an event which would be no more frequent than once a year. Is that seriously what you think about when choosing a car? I take it you don't know about car rentals then?

Wow. You really don't get it.

When couples attend events, it is quite common for them to alternate the driving so that one person can drink as much as they want and the other person stays sober. This negates the need for taxis. If a family didn't have a car large enough to transport everybody, it would mean never drinking at social events or having to pay for taxis.

I very much chose our family car on the basis of it being suitable for 100% of our requirements. It is large enough for all weekends away and holidays. We occasionally fit a roof box if required.

I'd never dream of buying a car that then required us to start renting a different vehicle just to visit family or go away somewhere. What a bizarre and financially incontinent decision that would be.

Given our annual mileage there's (hopefully) no reason why we'd need to replace our car until the kids have left home in 15+ years time.

Oversized SUVs for the win. 😉

LBFseBrom · 17/11/2024 21:38

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 17/11/2024 21:29

Sorry but £1,000 disposable income a month is not “barely anything”. Thats £250 a week. Hardly on the poverty line

She didn't say she was on the poverty line, just that there was nothing left over for extras, even a cheap holiday or a new coat.

A lot of people are in the same boat - always have been - and it's no fun.

Dibbydoos · 17/11/2024 21:34

I've worked just 3 months this tax year - I'm self employed and things have come to a standstill, hopefully now recession fears are a little alleviated with Trumps election, interim jobs will start appearing again 🙏. I need to net £4.5k pcm before I pay any food/utilities etc such is the size of my mortgage (Im a single parent widow). So shake hands with me. I am brassic. And before anyone says anything, the self employed earn less than the employed with no safety net - do the maths.

The point is, whenever any of us get into choppy water, we have choices to make. Decide what you want to do and do it. If that means get a better paid job, do that. If it means retiring, do that. If you're considering jacking up work with no safety net, there's no way youll get £3.1k benefits inc your mortgage being paid, so think again. Take action, don't moan. I wish you luck.

Kurokurosuke · 17/11/2024 21:34

Chan9eusername · 17/11/2024 18:18

. I just feel like working is pointless at the moment.

Well then your math ain't mathing because you'd have even less coming in if you weren't working.

Working isn't pointless if its paying for your home, food and bills childcare. You're just expecting a relatively affluent lifestyle off one not especially high salary with childcare costs coming out of it.

I am sure this is hyperbole on the part of the OP. Same as I sometimes think “ what’s the point in tidying/cleaning as there is mess immediately after” of course I know that not cleaning would result in it being much worse, but sometimes the endless effort for little result makes you think “eff this s*#t,” and want to just give it up.

whe you are working really hard and eating decent money to just exist it is really really soul destroying.

Good luck OP. On day that nursery money will be yours for something more fun. There is an end in sight. Even is a way off

ConstanceM · 17/11/2024 21:31

Not the OP, but some people on here don't know how to budget or spend money. Those with decent jobs generally splash the cash and think it's normal and the well will never run dry until they get ill and or get divorced. Then they are flabbergasted as to where the money went. I know people who earn £100k and haven't got a pot to piss in, but have a ridiculously massive land rover on drive, £100 takeaways and most goes in the bin and £30 bottles on wine. That's not normal or necessary. Never be in bondage to your work or career. It's fleeting at best, it's a short life. Work is to live, don't live to work to oil the machine.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 17/11/2024 21:29

Sorry but £1,000 disposable income a month is not “barely anything”. Thats £250 a week. Hardly on the poverty line

shuggles · 17/11/2024 21:28

@ThisOldThang Surely you're capable of understanding why travelling in one car is preferable to two - e.g. parents taking it in turns to drive and have a drink.

Weird comment. Taking it turns to drive? Unless you're driving to China, one driver should be enough. It's also possible for a driver to have a drink too.

If you drive to France on holiday, it would be pretty odd to pay for two cars on the ferry/tunnel. What about visiting family in another part of the country?

I would say it's odd to select my car on the basis of having a holiday in France, an event which would be no more frequent than once a year. Is that seriously what you think about when choosing a car? I take it you don't know about car rentals then?

andthat · 17/11/2024 21:27

shuggles · 17/11/2024 20:11

Oh sorry, my mistake. So you only have one car, which is why it needs to have 6 or more seats. I did not realise you don't have a second car, as clearly it would be very easy to move 6 people in two fiestas.

So if you only have one car, and that one vehicle needs to have 6 or more seats, then what's wrong with the Jogger? Costs a fraction of an XC90, which means you wouldn't have to moan about your finances on mumsnet.

Ffs. Re-read her posts.

She says continually that she CAN afford it.

she’s making the point that stuff costs £££ these days. Yes, shes tone deaf about the way she’s doing it… but she’s not moaning about her financial situation.