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To struggle on this salary?

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Unfff · 17/11/2024 18:10

Or more to the point… think it’s just not worth the hard work anymore?

Had enough. I earn 3,100 a month. My mortgage is 900 and car finance 300. Student loans 300. Nursery is 800 and I get 400 child maintenance. By the time I’ve paid bills… this months heating was 150! Water another 50. Phone bill and Netflix… I’m left with barely anything. My job is really full on and I work late or weekends often… I do t strictly have to but it’s the sort of job where you just do… otherwise things fall apart.

I don’t do expensive things. Can’t actually remember last time I went on holiday! AIBU to find it utterly miserable that taking home this much money means you still can’t just buy a coat or even new jumper etc without having to think twice?!

OP posts:
Howmanycatsistoomany · 17/11/2024 23:40

It's not pointless - you're building your career. And paying a mortgage on your own. How much longer left to pay on the car? Can you get rid for something smaller/cheaper to insure and cheap tax/tax free?

shuggles · 17/11/2024 23:38

@TheSpoonyNavyReader I do not have to explain anything to you as it’s of no concern to you

I just explained that it is my concern. It's a choice that affects me, therefore, it's my concern and I am permitted to comment on it.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:35

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 23:29

Well you're right. I also don't think a holiday should be a luxury either but it seems it is to many. Perhaps the ire directed at you reflects the frustration that average people feel as their standard of living erodes beneath them. It's been quite a fun thread really.

People need to celebrate everyone it’s not a race to the bottom, the UK is one of the only countries where people are looked down at for doing “well”.

Well could be going to university when everyone in their family has left school at 16.

we have become a society of everyone staying in their own lane, and treating others with suspicion if it does not meet their own narrative.

Those that have name called and questioned my need for a big car, or telling the OP that she is lucky just show their emotional intelligence.

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 23:29

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:20

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if someone had taken umbridge then that’s their opinion.

Lots on this thread have criticised the OP for saying she is struggling, the point I am making is that normal everyday items have risen so much that some are frankly out of touch and that bedding from M&S when you are working full time earning decent money should not be a luxury.

On this thread we have had the famous MN chicken that can feed a family of 4 for 3 nights and OP should grow her own vegetable and make a thermos flask of hot water at 6am is completely normal.

Well you're right. I also don't think a holiday should be a luxury either but it seems it is to many. Perhaps the ire directed at you reflects the frustration that average people feel as their standard of living erodes beneath them. It's been quite a fun thread really.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:27

shuggles · 17/11/2024 23:13

@ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea The poster does not have to defend her choice of car to you

Yes she does. When people drive large and ugly SUVs, that's a choice that directly affects me and all other pedestrians and road users. That means I am permitted to criticise the choice.

If you want to buy a large and ugly SUV, you should be able to explain why you did so when challenged on it.

I live in the country, it’s big enough for all my kids.

I also like it. Simple. I do not have to explain anything to you as it’s of no concern to you and anyone that thinks I should rent a car so we can all go out as a family is in my opinion naive and frankly stupid.

TheHateIsNotGood · 17/11/2024 23:24

Seems a pretty good life-sum equation to me, at least some of your earnings are being chucked at a mortgage when so many are chucking more at their landlords in rent.

Generally, life is a bit shit for many right now, probably felt worse by being an LP - you are not alone. Just get through this winter and all will seem better once spring comes. It will still probably be shit but things are always more bearable after the Spring.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:20

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 23:08

Oh I agree with you whole heartedly. Your broad point regarding wage shrinkage and the general cost trajectory of every day items is perfectly valid BUT I think you might have missed the mark when citing specific financial examples. I think that is what some previous posters have found insensitive and taken umbridge with.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if someone had taken umbridge then that’s their opinion.

Lots on this thread have criticised the OP for saying she is struggling, the point I am making is that normal everyday items have risen so much that some are frankly out of touch and that bedding from M&S when you are working full time earning decent money should not be a luxury.

On this thread we have had the famous MN chicken that can feed a family of 4 for 3 nights and OP should grow her own vegetable and make a thermos flask of hot water at 6am is completely normal.

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 23:16

shuggles · 17/11/2024 23:13

@ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea The poster does not have to defend her choice of car to you

Yes she does. When people drive large and ugly SUVs, that's a choice that directly affects me and all other pedestrians and road users. That means I am permitted to criticise the choice.

If you want to buy a large and ugly SUV, you should be able to explain why you did so when challenged on it.

In what way does it directly affect you? A d what do you drive? Surely you are equally accountable to the whims of other people's opinions?

ConstanceM · 17/11/2024 23:15

WTF is a Jogger? 🤔

shuggles · 17/11/2024 23:13

@ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea The poster does not have to defend her choice of car to you

Yes she does. When people drive large and ugly SUVs, that's a choice that directly affects me and all other pedestrians and road users. That means I am permitted to criticise the choice.

If you want to buy a large and ugly SUV, you should be able to explain why you did so when challenged on it.

Norzilla · 17/11/2024 23:12

@Whatamitodonow
You said exactly what I thought!
DH moans as he does shopping at Asda £230 for 4 of us. I have zero sympathy as I would go to Aldi/ Lidl and pick up other bits if needed from Asda.
My fuel is £60 per tank
If heating is extortionate wear more layers and use blankets ! I didn't have central heating until age 7!
Car bought for £3200 5 years old on a bank loan rather than finance so cheaper interest rate £155 pm
Is Netflix necessary? Change to PAYG phone or cheaper contract.
Water - shower rather than bath / wash up once per day, fill water for kettle in cup fulls. Don't use dish washers.
Electric - turn off main lights unless in use and unplug appliances not needed. Use draught excluders.
Gas - decrease temperature on heating and turn off radiators in unused rooms, batch cook stews/ pies/ casseroles/ curry/ pasta bake which can be heated in microwave as needed, split into portions and freeze.

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/11/2024 23:08

It's unfair you pay the whole childcare

Due to you paying it all your ex can go to work

Childcare should be 50/50

Would a cm be any cheaper?

How old is dc - when 3 Costa should go down a bit

You do need to write down everything you spend out of that 1000 a month to see where money is going

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 23:08

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:02

Throw in some scatter cushions and extra deep fitted sheets like I did in M&S and it would come to that.

I purchased some Asda bedding once and it was terrible.

The point I am making is that everyone think 1k to pay for food and other bills is a huge amount it’s not.

Oh I agree with you whole heartedly. Your broad point regarding wage shrinkage and the general cost trajectory of every day items is perfectly valid BUT I think you might have missed the mark when citing specific financial examples. I think that is what some previous posters have found insensitive and taken umbridge with.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 23:02

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 22:59

I'm here as a friend, and certainly not an Asda shopper, to suggest you don't die on this particular hill. I'm 100% sure, without checking, that you'd struggle to spend as much as £200 in Asda, on 2 sets of bedding.

Throw in some scatter cushions and extra deep fitted sheets like I did in M&S and it would come to that.

I purchased some Asda bedding once and it was terrible.

The point I am making is that everyone think 1k to pay for food and other bills is a huge amount it’s not.

Bs0u416d · 17/11/2024 22:59

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 22:51

Where did I say it was the majority?

If the OP went to Asda and spent £200 on bedding that would be 20% on her monthly budget, people think 1k is a lot of money it’s not and people need to wake up to the fact that it’s a struggle, she still has to pay for food, bills and other expenses.

When people think that M&S is a luxury it’s a very sorry state of affairs.

I'm here as a friend, and certainly not an Asda shopper, to suggest you don't die on this particular hill. I'm 100% sure, without checking, that you'd struggle to spend as much as £200 in Asda, on 2 sets of bedding.

tachetastic · 17/11/2024 22:58

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 22:51

Where did I say it was the majority?

If the OP went to Asda and spent £200 on bedding that would be 20% on her monthly budget, people think 1k is a lot of money it’s not and people need to wake up to the fact that it’s a struggle, she still has to pay for food, bills and other expenses.

When people think that M&S is a luxury it’s a very sorry state of affairs.

When people think that M&S is a luxury it’s a very sorry state of affairs.

I consider M&S a luxury. My kids consider it a rare treat.

Stressedgiraffe · 17/11/2024 22:53

@localnotail @ThisOldThang no

No uc check don't qualify for anything.
I work really hard for my money we are in a year appeal for pip for dh.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 22:51

tachetastic · 17/11/2024 22:44

TheSpoonyNavyReader · Today 20:41
In my circles £500 is a drop in the ocean.

Lucky circles. Not sure this is all that relevant to the vast majority.

Where did I say it was the majority?

If the OP went to Asda and spent £200 on bedding that would be 20% on her monthly budget, people think 1k is a lot of money it’s not and people need to wake up to the fact that it’s a struggle, she still has to pay for food, bills and other expenses.

When people think that M&S is a luxury it’s a very sorry state of affairs.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 17/11/2024 22:51

Maybe - it has gone up to getting something albeit in a sliding scale at £80k though. Plus it’s only taxable income therefore particularly if she pays into pension she would well be under.

Imjustlikeyou2 · 17/11/2024 22:50

1k for food and all bills still is fuck all now unfortunately. It is not easy at the moment we’ve all just become accustomed to it.

tachetastic · 17/11/2024 22:44

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:41

In my circles £500 is a drop in the ocean.

It was a one off purchase that will last for a couple of years, I could have gone to Asda and spent £200 but it would not have lasted as long as the ones we have were cheap one from last year.

Calling people morons says more about you than me…

TheSpoonyNavyReader · Today 20:41
In my circles £500 is a drop in the ocean.

Lucky circles. Not sure this is all that relevant to the vast majority.

Mumlaplomb · 17/11/2024 22:42

Totally get it OP. It’s your childcare costs. We had it at one point they were £1400. You’ve had some good advice re tax free childcare, also shopping at Aldi which I’m sure someone will have mentioned, it’s still a good saving compared to the older supermarkets.
For us life got easier when we had both at school although we still have wraparound to pay. We use tax free childcare for that too which takes the edge off.

ThisOldThang · 17/11/2024 22:34

localnotail · 17/11/2024 22:31

You have family of 4 living comfortably on £550 a month? Clothes, food, kids after school classes, dentist, hairdressers? Like, how?? No holidays? Never go out? Eat only vegetables?

I expect there is a very large UC cheque each month that pretty much covers the £1700 rent.

pooballs · 17/11/2024 22:34

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 22:28

JFC

M&S and it was 2 sets, that matches the colour
in our bedroom.

£500 for two m&s bedding sets? 😮 I understand wanting quality but that seems so steep!

localnotail · 17/11/2024 22:31

Stressedgiraffe · 17/11/2024 18:48

I'm sorry but I make 3500 around what you get with maintenance. This is to support 4 people. Rent of £1700 , childcare £500, bills ,£600, travel £150.
We can pay all our bills have heating on subscriptions etc. I don't count pennies going round supermarkets. I think you are mismanaging or forgetting some bills.

You have family of 4 living comfortably on £550 a month? Clothes, food, kids after school classes, dentist, hairdressers? Like, how?? No holidays? Never go out? Eat only vegetables?

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