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To struggle on this salary?

409 replies

Unfff · 17/11/2024 18:10

Or more to the point… think it’s just not worth the hard work anymore?

Had enough. I earn 3,100 a month. My mortgage is 900 and car finance 300. Student loans 300. Nursery is 800 and I get 400 child maintenance. By the time I’ve paid bills… this months heating was 150! Water another 50. Phone bill and Netflix… I’m left with barely anything. My job is really full on and I work late or weekends often… I do t strictly have to but it’s the sort of job where you just do… otherwise things fall apart.

I don’t do expensive things. Can’t actually remember last time I went on holiday! AIBU to find it utterly miserable that taking home this much money means you still can’t just buy a coat or even new jumper etc without having to think twice?!

OP posts:
StressedLP1 · 17/11/2024 21:25

midgetastic · 17/11/2024 21:18

@StressedLP1

www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

This is one possible source - it's great fun

Thank you!

ThisOldThang · 17/11/2024 21:23

shuggles · 17/11/2024 20:36

@TheSpoonyNavyReader As a jogger on finance would cost more than my XC90 per month.

False. The Jogger is a much cheaper car than the XC90.

I'm also bemused as to why you are paying for cars on finance, when you clearly have the salary to buy a car outright. I have bought all of my cars outright and I am sure I earn far less than you do.

We have another car but I did not include that in my calculations.

Oh, you do have 2 cars?

So why does 1 car need to hold all 6 people? This is strange.

PS a Jogger costs £70 to fill up but would cost more in MPG for the travelling I do, as diesel works out cheaper over long distances.

There is a diesel version of the Jogger, and many other cars...

Though why on earth are you driving long distances with 6 people? Sounds like a strange living/working arrangement.

I commute a long distance to work too, but I do that in a B-segment car. That's because I just need to get my own ass to work and there's no need to drive anything bigger.

But you're driving long distances with all 6 people? What on earth...

You've got a weird obsession with this poster's car.

Surely you're capable of understanding why travelling in one car is preferable to two - e.g. parents taking it in turns to drive and have a drink.

If you drive to France on holiday, it would be pretty odd to pay for two cars on the ferry/tunnel. What about visiting family in another part of the country?

DanceMumTaxi · 17/11/2024 21:22

It’s nursery, but it won’t last forever.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:19

@shuggles my car is not on finance (paid off a couple of years ago) if we were to buy another car it would be on finance.

Hence a jogger would cost more than my XC90.

As for driving 6 people around, going to school driving to work, you know everyday stuff, I can’t be late for work, and have to take the kids to school before hand. Weekends all going out together the kids have friends over, taking the dogs out means that a large car is what we need.

midgetastic · 17/11/2024 21:18

@StressedLP1

www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

This is one possible source - it's great fun

BashfulClam · 17/11/2024 21:15

Wow that’s £1,300 more a month in just wages than I get!

TheCompactPussycat · 17/11/2024 21:14

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:01

I am not out of touch, just lucky that we can afford things to a certain extent.

£150 on fuel, £400 on a tumble drier, is over half of OP budget for the month not including food, and other items.

Your £100 bedding set from 2008 will cost you £167.81 with inflation today, I purchased 2 sets plus fitted sheets.

I think you should actually work out what things cost in real terms today… wages have not kept up, and yet you call me a moron…

Your £100 bedding set from 2008 will cost you £167.81 with inflation today, I purchased 2 sets plus fitted sheets.

Yes, that is one way of looking at it. It isn't the whole story though. 30 years ago when I bought my first house, I bought a bedding set for £25 for a king-size bed. I can still buy a bedding set for a king-size bed for £25 today in 2024. Bedding is one of those purchases which generally costs less in real terms today (of course, everyone is welcome to pay more if they choose).

StressedLP1 · 17/11/2024 21:14

Preppingdonkey · 17/11/2024 20:47

Your salary is around 50k? Which is the equivalent to about 40k in 2020 and 27k in the early 00s.

Could you link to where these stats come from? Not doubting you, would just like to review my own situation. Thanks!

ThisOldThang · 17/11/2024 21:13

Seeing as the thread has been seriously derailed by talk of £500 bedding, I thought I'd share a tip.

We got ours from a hotel supplies company. It's good quality and fairly reasonable prices. It also saved the hassle of shopping around for bed linen.

https://www.outofeden.co.uk/products/2202_2205/luxury-cotton-micro-stripe-300-thread-count-duvet-cover

Laura95167 · 17/11/2024 21:10

VaccineSticker · 17/11/2024 20:25

Why is this funny? The system encourages the race to the bottom.

@Unfff hopefully once your little one is at school, things will start to ease off a bit. Hang in there x

It's hilarious that on a salary of approx £50k plus £400 child support, and i think its hilarious to be that well off and OP is looking at UC. People on half that can't get much UC because of the cap.

She perhaps could utilise TfC

Based on OPs own figures she has £1000 pcm left after bills. And one of those is student loan which is likely taken from her wage before she gets her £3100 net pay.

The truth is we're all in a cost of living crisis but to have £50k+ salary, be single with a mortgage and car is quite a privileged position. The answer is the same as the rest of us budget. Set aside some of that £1000 after the listed bills for that jumper.

Covidwoes · 17/11/2024 21:10

@TheSpoonyNavyReader I also live just outside an SE town outside of London. The town is half an hour away from London by train. I can fully believe paying over £300 for a cut and colour though. Some salons round here charge that! I just could never afford that. Our bedding was £25 from Sainsbury's and has lasted 3 years so far. I didn't realise M&S did such high end bedding!

OooSorryDoctor · 17/11/2024 21:07

Fedupandstressed · 17/11/2024 18:45

I don't understand how the student loan is so high? I earn 2700 before tax and my graduate and post graduate repayments come to £99.

Are you on a different type of loan?

You must be on plan 2 rather than plan 1? It varies depending on what year you took your loan out. On plan 1 you’d be paying back more.

Once you get past 40k to the 50-60k mark, the change to your bank balance is hardly noticeable on a month by month basis once you take out pension, taxes & student loan.

SquawkerTexasRanger · 17/11/2024 21:06

Could you get a live in nanny/ au pair to cut down on childcare costs or rent a room to make some money? Sorry things are so hard for you OP sounds really tough

buffyspikefaithangel · 17/11/2024 21:05

@TheSpoonyNavyReader I think they mean out of touch as in people are aware how expensive stuff is
But I don't have that money to spend on bedding or fuel or a tumble dryer, and £1000 is a lot to me because that's more than half my wage
So it's not a choice for me to spend that amount on fuel or bedding because I can't

Havetoagree · 17/11/2024 21:03

I can well imagine bills adding up to £1k, our council tax and energy combined is £500 and then water etc on top. Unfortunately you just have to swallow the nursery fees and just think when they are at school you will be £800 per month richer ☺️. Also the car finance? We just buy second hand but buy outright…do you have savings to do that?

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 21:01

Lancrelady80 · 17/11/2024 20:51

Digging a bigger hole, I'm afraid. You're getting a tough time for sure, but seem to make it worse because the things you keep pointing out are essential...aren't. Only to you, because of the circles you live in.

Our duvet set from M&S (bought with wedding gift vouchers - we usually buy from Sainsbury's, Dunelm etc) cost less than £100. Going strong since 2008. Inflation means £100 isn't the same as then, but still way less. And if you choose enormous beds then enormous bedding costs come with that. Seriously, £50 (at a guesstimate for that size) from Dunelm would do you just fine for a good few years!

I get that you have the money to be able to spend that much on what you like, and don't blame you one little bit for doing so. But it really doesn't support your (not entirely inaccurate) statement that £1000 doesn't go far nowadays. In fact, it completely undermines what you say because you sound so out of touch with so many other people and their situations.

I am not out of touch, just lucky that we can afford things to a certain extent.

£150 on fuel, £400 on a tumble drier, is over half of OP budget for the month not including food, and other items.

Your £100 bedding set from 2008 will cost you £167.81 with inflation today, I purchased 2 sets plus fitted sheets.

I think you should actually work out what things cost in real terms today… wages have not kept up, and yet you call me a moron…

Jingleballs2 · 17/11/2024 21:01

Oh and a non essential jumper for Christmas jumper day at school.. god forbid

Jingleballs2 · 17/11/2024 20:59

PigInADuvet · 17/11/2024 20:39

300 quid on clothes and shoes is a choice too. It's not a pair of school shoes and joggers from Asda is it...

I choose to spend £££ on organic clothing brands for my child. But I'm not here trying to justify how unaffordable life is whilst stealth boasting luxury purchases with faux sympathy for the OP...

(PS I drive a £4000 diesel ford galaxy, £90 quid to fill and 50mpg - highly recommend)

Edited

If a child had grown he can survive living in a pair of school shoes and joggers 🤣 obviously that's not going to happen every month but these things will hit at some point. And certainly not organic or designer clothes, I'm talking asda and next. Several pairs of joggers and jeans, some jumpers, trainers, wellies and a new winter coat for this year

FirstTimer888 · 17/11/2024 20:58

Chetto · 17/11/2024 20:46

@FirstTimer888 you make some really good points and yes you and many other single parents have a lot to be proud of!

Could I ask why does your ex only pays £260 maintenance? Is he on a NMW job? I’m just baffled by these super low maintenance payments.

Edited

@Chetto thank you

It’s a combination of things - he has two other children from a previous relationship so obviously his total payment is (rightly) split between me and his other children’s mum. Plus he hides some of his income through self employment / owning a business. A real prince eh?

It’s really frustrating, but I don’t have the energy to fight it. I’ll just keep doing everything I can and anything I get from him is a bonus.

surreygirl1987 · 17/11/2024 20:57

Unfff · 17/11/2024 18:15

@LittleRedRidingHoody i checked if I was entitled to anything but you have to earn loads less. I just feel like working is pointless at the moment.

We've all been there. Unfortunately this is the norm for so many with kids in nursery in the UK. It doesn't make it right, but it is so common. We had two kids in nursery at the same time under age 3, so didn't get any funding then, and despite earning a good salary I was losing money by going to work each day. We were basically hemorrhaging money. Still in debt from that. Worth it though - my career is great and we've almost paid off our debt. Once we have, we'll have lots of disposable income again. The nursery years aren't forever.

Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 17/11/2024 20:56

thecherryfox · 17/11/2024 19:42

New bedding £500? My duvet cover is £20 from Asda, what the heck are you sleeping on? Maybe I’m too poor to understand

Same- I've got brushed cotton duvet covers from Asda and I absolutely love them. They feel so luxury. Would never buy from anywhere else.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:55

Covidwoes · 17/11/2024 20:31

£500 on bedding is not helpful to the OP. £350 on beauty - wtf. I get a cut and highlights from my home hairdresser for £85.

OP, childcare is so so expensive. I sympathise highly having had 2 kids go through nursery (one is still there, but gets 30 free hours now, so fees have reduced). Are you using tax free childcare? Also,you should be entitled to some free hours.

Home hairdressers where I live are about £180 for highlights and a cut, what I have quoted is for a hairdressers in a SE town outside of London.
Where do you live?

roastiepotato · 17/11/2024 20:52

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:28

The bedding will last a couple of years, so worth it…

Glad someone can see that 1K will not go far.

A couple of years? It should last longer than that at the price!

Preppingdonkey · 17/11/2024 20:51

People really don’t understand how much wages have been devalued.

Lancrelady80 · 17/11/2024 20:51

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 20:41

In my circles £500 is a drop in the ocean.

It was a one off purchase that will last for a couple of years, I could have gone to Asda and spent £200 but it would not have lasted as long as the ones we have were cheap one from last year.

Calling people morons says more about you than me…

Digging a bigger hole, I'm afraid. You're getting a tough time for sure, but seem to make it worse because the things you keep pointing out are essential...aren't. Only to you, because of the circles you live in.

Our duvet set from M&S (bought with wedding gift vouchers - we usually buy from Sainsbury's, Dunelm etc) cost less than £100. Going strong since 2008. Inflation means £100 isn't the same as then, but still way less. And if you choose enormous beds then enormous bedding costs come with that. Seriously, £50 (at a guesstimate for that size) from Dunelm would do you just fine for a good few years!

I get that you have the money to be able to spend that much on what you like, and don't blame you one little bit for doing so. But it really doesn't support your (not entirely inaccurate) statement that £1000 doesn't go far nowadays. In fact, it completely undermines what you say because you sound so out of touch with so many other people and their situations.