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To struggle on this salary?

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Unfff · 17/11/2024 18:10

Or more to the point… think it’s just not worth the hard work anymore?

Had enough. I earn 3,100 a month. My mortgage is 900 and car finance 300. Student loans 300. Nursery is 800 and I get 400 child maintenance. By the time I’ve paid bills… this months heating was 150! Water another 50. Phone bill and Netflix… I’m left with barely anything. My job is really full on and I work late or weekends often… I do t strictly have to but it’s the sort of job where you just do… otherwise things fall apart.

I don’t do expensive things. Can’t actually remember last time I went on holiday! AIBU to find it utterly miserable that taking home this much money means you still can’t just buy a coat or even new jumper etc without having to think twice?!

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ConstanceM · 18/11/2024 23:36

You get £2000 from the state, for a disability? I'm surprised at the amount. How does government assess such claims? Not suggesting you are not deserving, asking for a family member

It’s a mixture of PIP, Universal Credit, Carers Allowance and Child benefits. I had to jump through hoops to get help, I needed proof from Drs, Therapists & statements from my kids and family for my PIP to prove I needed the help I said I did and even with all that I had to go to a tribunal to get the allowance I did. I advise your family member to get help from citizens advice but I warn you it’s a demeaning and stressful procedure.

SLE90 · 26/11/2024 20:51

Are you signed up for tax-free childcare? Something up think about if you’re not already. One of the only benefits of earning too high for any other help!

BigManLittleDignity · 25/11/2024 02:47

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I am not the one who is a single parent! I was referring to the OP. You came on her thread but you’re comparing apples and oranges. Your situation is clearly challenging but it isn’t comparable because I don’t think anyone on here would suggest it’s financially worse for OP than someone on benefits for health and/or disability reasons.
I was not going to pass comment on whether you have worked. It’s irrelevant. The state should support any person who needs it - and you clearly do - even if they have never been able to work.

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Honestlyhon · 25/11/2024 00:43

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You're sat on your backside not working, OP is grafting and taking care of a child. I would pipe down with the judgements if I were you.

TheCompactPussycat · 25/11/2024 00:38

Surely the point is that she has a good income but she also has relatively high, but largely temporary, expenditure. She isn't struggling on this salary at all. She just doesn't have quite as much disposable income to spend on 'fun stuff' as she would like. It sounds like she's doing pretty well, all things considered. Life throws some curve balls sometimes (I'm assuming she didn't plan on being a single parent), but feeling like a victim of circumstances is a choice and she can choose to count her blessings instead - it will make her feel richer if she stops focusing on monetary value. In a couple of years time, her outgoings should reduce and she'll have more disposable income.

sillystrings · 25/11/2024 00:18

fedup33 · 23/11/2024 18:47

We swapped to netflix with ads

brave little soldier

Grin
BigManLittleDignity · 24/11/2024 23:01

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She has a small child for whom she has primary financial responsibility, do you?

Honestlyhon · 24/11/2024 22:16

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So?

ThisOldThang · 24/11/2024 22:13

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The OP has £3100 + child maintenance £400 = £3500.

Mortgage = £900
Council tax = £150
Car finance = £300
Student loan = £300
Nursery = £800
Heating = £150
Water = £50
Total = £2650

She also has unlisted bills such as mobile phone, broadband, car insurance, car tax, etc.

And she's also supporting her child.

£850 per month isn't much to pay for all those bills, the costs associated with a full-time job and also supporting her daughter.

Your income is actually very similar to the OP's but you're determined to paint her as somehow feckless and ungrateful compared to yourself.

Just out of interest, how many kids are you supporting on your income? Do you live alone or do you have other people contributing to your home's finances?

IVFmumoftwo · 24/11/2024 21:21

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I know, we have a mortgage and claim UC. People presume you (general) are wealthy and shouldn't be claiming benefits if you have a mortgage. 😄🙄 I was just clearing up that UC often only pays some of the rent and the tenant has to pay the rest.

ElectricLegs · 24/11/2024 21:21

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 17/11/2024 19:15

2 new extra deep fitted sheets and 2x new bedding sets. Came to £500. We are lucky to be able to afford it, but it was eye opening M&S if you want to know..

I pay around £16 each for my pillow cases. They are 800 thread count Egyptian cotton. It must be the good stuff that you are buying!

Midgetgem2 · 24/11/2024 20:59

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ThisOldThang · 24/11/2024 18:20

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You steamrolled into the thread dumping your judgement on the OP and are now clutching your pearls because I made assumptions about your finances.

If you read the OP's original post, you'll see that you're in an almost identical financial situation - but she works full-time and will therefore have additional work related outgoings.

Perhaps it's you that needs to stop making assumptions.

IVFmumoftwo · 24/11/2024 13:29

ThisOldThang · 24/11/2024 09:17

"i’m on £61,000 less than her"

No you're not. The OP is earning around £50k.

And your £1200 a month is after your rent and Council Tax has been paid by the taxpayer (people such as the OP).

The OP only has £1000 after paying her mortgage and bills, so you're in very similar financial situations.

If she is on UC she will probably some of her rent and some of her council tax. UC often only pay a percentage of the rent.

cloudyfox · 24/11/2024 10:05

Pipsquiggle · 24/11/2024 08:30

I still don't understand why the ex doesn't pay half the nursery fees or have to arrange his own childcare for 50% of the time?

Is this normal that men just pay the minimum Child maintenance payments but obfuscate responsibility for childcare?

My ex pays £147 a month child maintenance, and has never contributed towards childcare or helped towards school uniform or anything extra at all. He has a good accountant and does cash in hand work to hide some income. Lots of exes don't see it as their problem and resent even paying the bare minimum.

@Unfff yes, it's a struggle as a single parent, but as someone who didn't get a degree and is stuck on an entry level salary as a result, I promise it was definitely worth getting the education and it really is worth working. I will be stuck renting forever as, despite being able to cover my rent, no bank will give me a mortgage. Your mortgage will end one day and is such a good investment for your future. The childcare years are hellish but are also not forever. It feels like you're working for nothing now but you will reap the rewards later. You just need to hang in there for a bit and maybe try to look at things a little differently. You have warmth, food, a roof - these are not nothing. I don't think you're being unreasonable at all, and I'm not going to compare lifestyles as mine is a little different to yours, but it's all relative and you have certainly earned it.

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ShinyShona · 24/11/2024 09:42

foodforclouds · 23/11/2024 22:25

…. And you’ll get told to fuck off and stop pushing house prices up with your londoner money

That is true as well. Although to be fair people who buy houses to live in aren't really the problem. It's the ones who stay in London and buy up a portfolio of properties all over the country to rent out as slums that are the problem!

ThisOldThang · 24/11/2024 09:17

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"i’m on £61,000 less than her"

No you're not. The OP is earning around £50k.

And your £1200 a month is after your rent and Council Tax has been paid by the taxpayer (people such as the OP).

The OP only has £1000 after paying her mortgage and bills, so you're in very similar financial situations.

Pipsquiggle · 24/11/2024 08:30

I still don't understand why the ex doesn't pay half the nursery fees or have to arrange his own childcare for 50% of the time?

Is this normal that men just pay the minimum Child maintenance payments but obfuscate responsibility for childcare?

Rob1971 · 24/11/2024 08:21

I'm confused by the student loan repayments of £300 a month? That seems like an awful lot for a that salary - are you overpaying if so maybe cut this down a bit?

Mitzuko · 24/11/2024 07:41

Perhaps one of the things to consider is not cutting on expenses that would make life even more miserable, but strategizing ways to earn more, or making a plan to have a job that makes you smile.
YANBU to me, life should more than bills and duties, personal satisfaction should also be included

IVFmumoftwo · 24/11/2024 06:36

SySy7 · 23/11/2024 23:44

I don’t know why everyone is giving you a hard time over this?! I’m in a similar situation but with a partner and 2 lots of nursery fees almost £1000 month and car finance etc and we spend £600 month minimum on food and that’s with being careful and mortgage repayments. There’s nothing left! I go without clothes etc and worry about covering food for the last week of every month. I think lots of people are struggling atm that are on what used to be considered ‘decent’ salaries. I’d ask for a bit more maintenance and you literally just got to ride this out until little one starts school. I’m sorry it’s such a miserable time for you. One thing I will say is that I changed my job as it was stressful like yours and managed to find same salary with reasonable hours. At least it’s helped to alleviate some stress and I’d recommend you try and do the same. Money stress is horrible and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone! Everyone is feeling the pinch

That is why people space out their kids.

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