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SAHM + Nanny

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Namechang3ds · 17/11/2024 14:57

I’d be very grateful for some non judgemental views. I’ll start by saying that where we live in central London - Nannie’s are very popular!

I have two children who have a one year age gap exactly. So I am still in maternity leave with my second. Given the close age gap, we have a lovely nanny who is very much part of our family. She is really lovely and I look forward to seeing her everyday.

She helps me a lot - particularly taking my toddler to tonnes of stay and plays and baby classes and also taking care of them both so I can go to the gym etc.

I am really happy with my arrangement and we financially can afford it. But I went to a friends birthday over the weekend, and people looked at me with shock/confusion that I do not currently work (but I will go back in 6m) and also have a nanny. I didn’t disclose this info to them quickly but when it slipped into conversation it made me feel almost guilty…that I should be doing this with them both myself rather than having someone to help

Sorry for rambling it just got me down. But the way I see it is that she is lovely, it makes my life easier and I am happy! And I can afford it. It just made me feel bad.

OP posts:
thequeenoftarts · 17/11/2024 17:56

You are lucky to be in a position to do this. Do I care? Not in the slightest cos it is none of my business, and trust me back in my child rearing days if I could have afforded a Nanny, omg I would have had one with bells on. Child rearing is hard work, there are days mums feel like a full on day of combat would be easier than rearing children lol. You do you and what suits your family, and don't mind what people say. If they ain't paying your bills they don't get a say in how you spend your money

Namechang3ds · 17/11/2024 17:55

Itoldyousoo · 17/11/2024 17:50

You don't seem to understand anything I say but that's ok.

I do get what you’re saying. The nanny decision wasn’t from my husband and as mentioned I can afford to pay her using my own money. But thank you for offering a different perspective.

OP posts:
SouthLondonMum22 · 17/11/2024 17:52

Chan9eusername · 17/11/2024 17:43

Yeah i could have afforded this so not remotely jealous but can't see why I'd have needed a FT nanny when my two were small.

I think it is about how people's expectations of parenting have changed. It used to be accepted that having kids meant sacrifices - less time, probably less exercise etc, because you simply put children first and they need their parents.

Nowadays it seems like there's a culture emerging that parents don't need to sacrifice anything. The child must slot in, mum & dad's gym regimen does not need to change at all, no ones career needs to taken the slightest back seat, children must be subjected to whatever holiday or social plans their parents would like, regardless of whether its suitable for a toddler or not.

Even with a small gap, two kids genuinely isn’t that hard. A mothers help a few days a week - yes, a full time nanny? I just didn't need it. It would have been a random person dealing with my kids for me. They are my kids and I wanted to care for them.

Edited

Theres a difference between refusing to sacrifice anything and refusing to sacrifice everything.

Lets also not kid ourselves, it isn’t parents that are expected to sacrifice everything, it’s mothers.

Itoldyousoo · 17/11/2024 17:50

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:40

@Itoldyousoo

i am not here to care for the op

you dont actually know why her husband agreed to pay circa 50k for someone to care for his kids alongside op do you?

You don't seem to understand anything I say but that's ok.

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:49

It’s auto correct - it’s not that deep 🤣🤣

Mumwithbaggage · 17/11/2024 17:48

@Namechang3ds I had 3 under 3 and a husband working abroad - would have loved a nanny! I didn't cope or thrive, I just about survived. It sounds very sensible for the children to build a bond with a nanny you trust before you head back to work.

Chan9eusername · 17/11/2024 17:48

Urgh if one more person says

nannie's i may vomit in disgust.

The plural of "nanny" is "nannies". No apostrophe

Wonderi · 17/11/2024 17:45

I think it’s your wording that’s the issue.

You aren’t a SAHP because that implies you are choosing to stay home to look after the kids.

As you have a FT nanny, then you aren’t doing this.

It’s like saying you’re a single parent but are actually in a relationship and live with their dad.
Yes there may be times when you parent alone but that doesn’t make you a single parent.

I think if you told your friends you are a housewife or are on maternity leave and you have a nanny because you struggle to cope, then they would have no judgement at all.

It’s like someone saying they’re a working mum when in reality they don’t have a job.
It would absolutely get peoples backs up if someone said they’re tired because they’re a working mum and then it turns out they don’t actually have a job, especially if the people you’re telling are actually tired from working and parenting.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/11/2024 17:45

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:40

@Itoldyousoo

i am not here to care for the op

you dont actually know why her husband agreed to pay circa 50k for someone to care for his kids alongside op do you?

I imagine it’s because he works long hours and travels regularly.

Yesiknowdear · 17/11/2024 17:44

As someone with 2 close in age and no help at all, I want to say that I think it is fabulous, feel no guilt whatsoever!

Chan9eusername · 17/11/2024 17:43

Yeah i could have afforded this so not remotely jealous but can't see why I'd have needed a FT nanny when my two were small.

I think it is about how people's expectations of parenting have changed. It used to be accepted that having kids meant sacrifices - less time, probably less exercise etc, because you simply put children first and they need their parents.

Nowadays it seems like there's a culture emerging that parents don't need to sacrifice anything. The child must slot in, mum & dad's gym regimen does not need to change at all, no ones career needs to taken the slightest back seat, children must be subjected to whatever holiday or social plans their parents would like, regardless of whether its suitable for a toddler or not.

Even with a small gap, two kids genuinely isn’t that hard. A mothers help a few days a week - yes, a full time nanny? I just didn't need it. It would have been a random person dealing with my kids for me. They are my kids and I wanted to care for them.

Pleaselettheholidayend · 17/11/2024 17:43

You're not a SAHM, you're on maternity? A SAHM, to me, is not in paid employment or very very casual work and spends their time caring for their kids.

As for other responses, who cares? You can afford it and I bet they'd be doing the same if they could.
Parenting isn't a struggle competition.

CookieMonster28 · 17/11/2024 17:43

Namechang3ds · 17/11/2024 17:02

May I ask why you would judge?

Sorry I purposely didn't expand because I don't want to cause offence/upset really! I wouldn't judge in a malicious way just would have difficulty comprehending your decision to have a nanny full time. It's just not what I would choose as I'd feel like I'm missing out on time with my child/children and feel like someone else is raising my child. I don't personally see it as the same as sending a child to nursery as you still do morning/bedtime routine etc. which you may well do but I think it's easy to judge and have a preconception initially that a full time nanny is because a mum is struggling to do it all themselves (which is understandable!) or didn't really want to be a mum very much in the first place...not saying that's true in your case but I think people can easily make that assumption before knowing the ins and outs of your set up! I hope this doesn't cause offense I'm just giving a different perspective ... Some of it may very well be jealousy from these other mums but if it works for you and your family then f*ck them. X

jeaux90 · 17/11/2024 17:43

I had a live in nanny for 10 years OP. As a lone parent it was absolutely essential for my career etc

It's absolutely none of their business how you bring up your DC or what you spend your money on.

ShinyShona · 17/11/2024 17:43

Namechang3ds · 17/11/2024 17:26

To clarify, financially even if we split I could afford our nanny (can rely on my salary and savings and have money left).

Perfect! Then enjoy it and ignore everyone else.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/11/2024 17:42

truegum81 · 17/11/2024 17:34

She helps me a lot - particularly taking my toddler to tonnes of stay and plays and baby classes

I loved baby classes!

I can almost guarantee that when you’re back full on at work and balancing everything you would give your right arm to be with your baby at one of those classes

That’s not the case for me.

Not every parent loves baby classes.

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:42

This is not hate or jealousy at all

I wish the op and her family no ill will

However I just wouldn’t follow her path and it’s unfair to claim anyone who wouldn’t is jealous

ShinyShona · 17/11/2024 17:42

Namechang3ds · 17/11/2024 17:29

There’s no need to be so mean. Thank you to the posters who have been nice. Gosh MN has changed.

Nah, it's always been a bit of a cesspit to be honest. Like X but with less attentive moderators.

Ethny · 17/11/2024 17:42

I am on maternity leave too and I’m looking for a part-time nanny at the moment. Everyone around me think it’s sensible

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:40

@Itoldyousoo

i am not here to care for the op

you dont actually know why her husband agreed to pay circa 50k for someone to care for his kids alongside op do you?

80smonster · 17/11/2024 17:40

Loads of jealousy-based hate on this thread. Don’t listen to a word of it, I think nannie’s are rarer in certain parts of the country, so there is that to consider when reviewing some of these absolutely bonkers responses.

mumedu · 17/11/2024 17:39

Enjoy your life. You'll be a better mother for having time to take care of yourself.

Obsessedwithlamps · 17/11/2024 17:39

I think it sounds like a great setup both for you and your children. I would have loved a nanny and I think it ensures both your children get more attention that way too. Win win OP!

NeedToChangeName · 17/11/2024 17:37

Quitelikeit · 17/11/2024 17:04

Well if the nanny is full time then in my worldly view op you are not a sahm.

You can dress it how you like op 😂😂

You can also crack on with your lovely swimming and daily steams but in the true sense of the word you are not carrying out the role on your own

I mean you literally pay someone to parent whilst you are in the room 😂😂 sounds fab but don’t try to kid yourself that you are a sahm. In reality you do not stay at home you do what you like throughout the days

I am not jealous btw but my pride would never have allowed me to do what you do. I’d never have wanted others to think I couldn’t manage on my own and tbh isn’t it a touch lazy? Is your dh perhaps thinking you could slide into a depression? Does he think you are not capable of going it alone?

I could understand a couple of hours a week here and there so you could get certain things done

Saying others are jealous is a tad ott as there are plenty women who would not want or need the assistance regardless of income.

Agree with this

OP, genuinely, do what you want, it's no skin off my nose. Personally, I would make different choices. Please don't assume I must be jealous / wishing I could do it your way

Mrssmith3 · 17/11/2024 17:37

Your on maternity leave keep your decent nanny. It makes your life easier. Judgers will always judge. Two children so close in age is hard work. You can afford it so why not. As your husband works long hours it would be hard without.

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