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The lamb steaks …

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4seasons · 17/11/2024 10:42

My DH has just asked me if I “ have any thoughts “ about dinner tonight. I am sitting comfortably looking out at the garden and yet went from relaxed to very irritated in microseconds ! I asked for his suggestions and he said “ lamb steaks “. Just that. He obviously had a mental picture of a dinner he wanted to eat but of course hadn’t thought any further than this because obviously I was the one who would plan and execute the cooking. So … that’s part of my day sorted then .. peeling , chopping, cooking etc. He’s a brilliant bloke in many many ways … married for over 50 years , 2 middle aged kids. So why has this irritated me so much ? Can anyone articulate this to me ? I have been planning , shopping , cooking for family and extended family for a long , long time and am sick of the concept of “ the meal “ If I was on my own I’d probably have soup or a boiled egg .. but each day there has to be a “ proper “ meal for “ the man “. You know , meat / veg / gravy etc.!! What is it with men and a “ proper meal “?
I’m calming down now and I know I really am being unreasonable to be internally screaming about this but next time he says “ lamb steaks “ that’s what he’s getting… a lamb steak slapped in the middle of a plate and nothing else !!

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4seasons · 17/11/2024 11:46

A situation of my own making … mmm.. food for thought ( no pun intended) And probably absolutely correct. Ditto the comment re me sitting relaxing and needing to be “ doing something “.
I find the older I get ( and the more I read on Mumsnet ) the more combative I’ve become. As if my eyes have finally been truly opened. I would imagine , if I’m being fair , that he feels the same way … I’m not perfect . I’m certainly lazier now that I’m retired after a long and hard career.
Yesterday I picked up a pair of plain black trousers in M&S and was about to buy them when he said “ yet another pair of black trousers “.I asked him how many I had and he said he’d count !! I found myself hissing “ I’ll buy what I want ! Don’t need to run it past you .” I felt furious .. came out of nowhere. Now I find myself looking for other controlling behaviour. This isn’t a good feeling and the “ lamb steaks “ has put the tin lid on it !
Dear god , I am becoming a harridan.

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Timeforanotheraliasnow · 17/11/2024 11:43

I feel your pain OP. Even the best of men (my DH included, most of the time) see the woman as default kitchen person. My own DH will help me by doing whatever I ask him to do and can't understand why that's so annoying. I agree with other replies, tell him it's cheese on toast for dinner. Yum yum yum 🥰

ohtowinthelottery · 17/11/2024 11:41

My DH would probably say lamb steaks/chops too as it's his 'last supper' meal - along with mashed potato and peas! 🤣

But, although he might ask the meal question, he'd be in no doubt he'd be cooking it!
It's just the thinking ahead/planning he's not very good at.
He's more of a "what's for tea" at 5pm type planner than a "what shall I get out of the freezer to defrost the night before/1st thing person".

I've tried to train him, especially now he's retired but it's a long, slow process. There are many other bits of retraining to do too!

TwattyMcFuckFace · 17/11/2024 11:37

Screamingabdabz · 17/11/2024 11:35

I’m sure my DH of 30 years would love ‘proper’ roast dinners but he knows apart from the odd family day I can’t be arsed cooking them. He’s totally independently minded and would never expect that of me. When one of our household cook for others we are all very grateful - it never gets taken for granted or assumed it’s women's work.

And this is where women who martyr themselves for years do not really have my sympathy in situations like this. I get your irritation op, I really do. But it’s a situation of your own making.

And this is where women who martyr themselves for years do not really have my sympathy in situations like this. I get your irritation op, I really do. But it’s a situation of your own making.

100% this ^^

'I don't want to offload onto him because he does more housework than me'.

So share the housework and meal planning 🤷‍♂️

Lindjam · 17/11/2024 11:37

Can you swap responsibility for meals with something he does? Laundry?

Screamingabdabz · 17/11/2024 11:35

I’m sure my DH of 30 years would love ‘proper’ roast dinners but he knows apart from the odd family day I can’t be arsed cooking them. He’s totally independently minded and would never expect that of me. When one of our household cook for others we are all very grateful - it never gets taken for granted or assumed it’s women's work.

And this is where women who martyr themselves for years do not really have my sympathy in situations like this. I get your irritation op, I really do. But it’s a situation of your own making.

OneTC · 17/11/2024 11:32

I feel you in the expectation of a meal, I didn't make it to 50 years married before snapping.

I would love for someone to make me dinner!

jeaux90 · 17/11/2024 11:31

Women's work innit.

Seriously I agree OP. It's irritating.

4seasons · 17/11/2024 11:29

The thing is I don’t want to offload the meal planning etc on to him because he’s always ( well , in his later years ) pulled his weight … and probably does more housework than I do. But it still irritates that my brain space is the one used for meal planning .
We are spending Xmas away with our 2 children this year. My son is the designated cook. I can’t tell you how thrilled I am that I’m not responsible for the whole event. But only minutes ago DH said “ well they’ve decided on Xmas dinner but what are we eating the rest of the time ?”…. implication being that I needed to meal plan for 3 days meals for 4 adults ( 6 , once the uni grandkids arrive )…. why me ??

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Thelnebriati · 17/11/2024 11:29

10;30am is early to be thinking about dinner. Are you sure he didn't see you relaxing and decide to sabotage that?

Lindjam · 17/11/2024 11:24

Bjorkdidit · 17/11/2024 11:05

If I was on my own I’d probably have soup or a boiled egg .. but each day there has to be a “ proper “ meal for “ the man “. You know , meat / veg / gravy etc.!! What is it with men and a “ proper meal “?

So why don't you have soup or eggs?

You're not obliged to cook your DHs choice of meals.

Make what you fancy and feel like cooking. If you're being very kind you could say, 'I'm having soup, would you like some too'. If he says no, he can make his own food or go without.

Exactly this. Tell him what you told us. You are sick fed up with cooking and from now on, he can have whatever you fancy eating, or cook himself.

Get him some cookery books for Christmas?

4seasons · 17/11/2024 11:22

I’m just fed up of the concept of “ the proper meal “. I think I’m quite happy with snack type meals rather than the full meat , veg , accompaniments etc. And I’m tired of the thinking being a daily brain filler .

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wizzler · 17/11/2024 11:21

Agree with Pp.. the correct response is : that sounds lovely thanks

LeavesOnTrees · 17/11/2024 11:21

I'm assuming you're both retired. Maybe suggest you take it in turns to cook and prepare meals. If he tries to off load 'what shall we eat tonight', just reply 'I will love anything you prepare, surprise me'.

dreamer24 · 17/11/2024 11:18

TheFlis · 17/11/2024 10:47

I would have said “that sounds delicious, thanks, what are you cooking to go with them?”.

Yep. This!

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 17/11/2024 11:17

I'm a woman and I want a "proper meal", thanks! Love my dinners!

BUT - I plan, shop for and cook them. DH can suggest and helps with prep but I basically eat what I want. Your dh should try it!

SleepingisanArt · 17/11/2024 11:11

Must be generational. My father in his 70s has to have a proper dinner every day. He doesn't cook - his idea of cooking is heating something in the oven (ready meal or frozen fish and chips)... My husband (and I) will have rice pudding for dinner if the mood takes us or a toasted sandwich or beans on toast. Most of the time we cook from scratch and share 50:50 (plus whoever isn't cooking assists).

sweeneytoddsrazor · 17/11/2024 11:10

So he asked what you thought and instead of telling him what you wanted you asked him what he wanted. Why not just tell him what you want.

Onlyvisiting · 17/11/2024 11:10

If this has been your dynamic forever then rage quitting today might be a bit overkill. But next time he says something like that respond with 'I don't want to spend all afternoon meal prepping, ill probably have soup or something'.
'What do you think' leaves it open to him making menu requests.
And when you've had more coffee and a kot of deep breaths have a conversation that now you are '(presumably) both retired and don't have kids at home you want to change the set up and split household choose more equally. One thing if you were a SAHM and he was main wage earner but no need to continue that now. Many years past time for a change!

PullTheBricksDown · 17/11/2024 11:10

He’s a brilliant bloke in many many ways

Name some of them? Do any of them involve organising or cooking meals?

Surely this also means you have to go and shop, unless you have lamb steaks in already - which at least would make him mentioning them more reasonable. Can you send him to the shops to get them, if that's what he wants?

Also agree that a perfectly good response to his 'what are your thoughts' would have been 'something simple like soup or a boiled egg'

Bjorkdidit · 17/11/2024 11:05

If I was on my own I’d probably have soup or a boiled egg .. but each day there has to be a “ proper “ meal for “ the man “. You know , meat / veg / gravy etc.!! What is it with men and a “ proper meal “?

So why don't you have soup or eggs?

You're not obliged to cook your DHs choice of meals.

Make what you fancy and feel like cooking. If you're being very kind you could say, 'I'm having soup, would you like some too'. If he says no, he can make his own food or go without.

EveryKneeShallBow · 17/11/2024 10:51

Exactly as others have said. Sounds great, what are you doing to go with it?

im in my 60s and I know times have changed and roles within relationships become ingrained over the years, but it doesn’t hurt to raise awareness, even if you don’t plan on making an issue out of it.

Zae134 · 17/11/2024 10:48

Haha, I absolutely feel your rage! I do most of the cooking because I genuinely enjoy doing it, but sometimes I have to remind everyone that it's not a restaurant.
If DH said "lamb steaks?" my response would be "yeah make that if you want, sounds nice"

MimiSunshine · 17/11/2024 10:47

Just say “sounds lovely, what time will it be ready so I can plan my afternoon?”

then make clear that he’s responsible for producing whatever meal he has in his head involving tbd lamb steaks.

oh and if he says anything like he doesn’t know how to cook them, it’s better when you do it. Then that’s the time to tell him you don’t fancy prepping and cooking today so you’ll be making cheese on toast and tomato soup.

its never to late to change behaviours

4seasons · 17/11/2024 10:47

Way past menopausal .. in my 70 s !!

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