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Isxmasoveryet · 17/11/2024 09:08

Am i being unreasonable to think churches should not be aloud to ring those damn bells for hours on end a few times a week it not very christain disturbing neighbours etc for several hours

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AzurePanda · 18/11/2024 01:39

@Isatis our bell ringing practice regularly goes for 4 hours, ending at 10pm on a weeknight.

ThreeDoorsDown · 18/11/2024 00:32

Our local bellrings could not be any worse at getting any sort of of melody / tune whatever you call music from bells. I imagine they are all quite drunk and having a laugh. They practice 3 times a week and have not got any better. The people who ring the bells for weddings know how to make the bells sound great, not sure how they manage to go from one extreme to the other. Booze and having a bloody good laugh is the only explanation, I may join them!

Isatis · 18/11/2024 00:14

Hualalai · 17/11/2024 15:14

Might they be automated bells?

Not if they're having practice sessions during the week as OP claims.

Isatis · 18/11/2024 00:06

Lellamir · 17/11/2024 11:52

8am? I'm talking about every 15 minutes, culminating in 12 loud songs in the dead of night.

But OP isn't.

Isatis · 18/11/2024 00:05

Lellamir · 17/11/2024 11:45

What a patronising post.

Many people do not have a choice, as to where they live.
And, yes, many church bells are on a timer, so they ring every 15 minutes, 24/7, like the one I have described. So, that's the full 'tune' followed by 12 'dongs' every night, at midnight.
They then ring to call the flock to services, for weddings etc, and for practice.
In my experience, New Year's Day was 6 continuous hours.

I really don't believe you about the 6 continuous hours on New Year's Day. As I've pointed out, ringers just don't have the strength and stamina to do that at any time, let alone after seeing the New Year in.

Isatis · 18/11/2024 00:03

Lellamir · 17/11/2024 11:39

Yes, sleep deprivation causes anxiety and distress, especially if it is long term.

OP does not suggest that the bells she is talking about were ringing overnight. They seem to be a peal of bells being rung by bellringers, not the chimes of a clock.

Isatis · 17/11/2024 23:59

Funnywonder · 17/11/2024 11:26

Yes, fair point @Nanny0gg. I suddenly realised after I hit 'post' that there would be practice sessions🙂 But 5 and a half hours? That would drive me bonkers. I can't decide whether they're the world's worst or best bell ringers!

This was allegedly on a Sunday. Practice sessions are during the week, partly in preparation for Sunday services.

And it can't have happened on the Sunday morning, because then there would be ringing all the way through church services which no vicar would put up with.

Isatis · 17/11/2024 23:57

Oldnproud · 17/11/2024 11:09

To be fair, 5.5 hours of the bells ringing does sound a bit unreasonable to me.

We live opposite a church, and I sometimes find a couple of hours of it can start to annoy me. They are practising, so it's often far from musical (though yesterday I heard them attempting twinkletwinkle little star, which made me smile).

It's near-impossible to ring recognisable tunes on church bells (unless it is a carillon, which is a rather different set-up). They're so heavy that the most you can do is slow them down or speed them up slightly, so effectively you can only "move" your bell's ring one place in any given sequence - e.g if you ring 4th on one round, you can ring 5th or 3rd in the next one, but not second or sixth. To add to the complications, there will be an interval between the rope being pulled and the bell actually ringing, because it is fixed to a wheel and it is actually the wheel that is being turned.

Twangy · 17/11/2024 23:52

The church was there probably before your house was even built.
You're being extremely unreasonable.
There is a church opposite my house, it ding dongs merrily away on a Sunday morning, a Thursday evening for practice and random times for weddings and funerals.
After a couple of weeks, I never noticed them any more, even with my windows open.
So yes, you're being extremely unreasonable.

Isatis · 17/11/2024 23:51

Pusheen467 · 17/11/2024 11:07

Still unreasonable in my opinion.

You're missing the fact that it just won't have been going on as long as OP claims, for the reasons I and others have set out in various posts.

Isatis · 17/11/2024 23:48

Funnywonder · 17/11/2024 11:02

That seems like a lot of bell ringing to be fair. The Church of Ireland closest to us rings its bells for about half an hour before morning and evening services, so not too long. I love the sound, but I think several hours would drive me insane. I used to live close to Ian Paisley's church and they played an ear splitting, somewhat distorted, recording of church bells playing various hymns. It was absolutely horrible, but again, only lasted half an hour or so before each Sunday service, the weekly prayer meeting and occasional special services.

The thing is, bells just aren't rung for "several hours" at a time nonstop. Bellringers are only human and most bells are bloody heavy, plus you have to stand to ring them. Who has the stamina to heave bells for 5.5 hours as OP alleges? The longest you'll ever get being rung at one stretch is a peal of around 3-3.5 hours, and they're relatively rare because they're difficult and only a few ringers can manage them.

StripeyDeckchair · 17/11/2024 20:47

A church will have been there for anything up to 1000 years.
Bells are traditionally used to call the faithful to prayer. On Sunday there may be am & pm services and during the week the bellringers will practice for 2-3 hours.

Additionally bellringing teams will visit other towers to ring the bells; it develops their skills and gives them opportunities to ring different types of bells. Towers usually have an even number of bells 6-8-10-12 depending on size.

You should consider yourself lucky to be part of our heritage not be on here batching about it.
Why not go over next practice evening & introduce yourself & have a go? Ringers are welcomeing and tend to go to the pub after practice.

Persianpaws · 17/11/2024 20:28

AzurePanda · 17/11/2024 10:01

You have my utmost sympathy. Yes we bought a house near a church but we didn’t expect the bells to ring for 5 hours solid every Monday evening (finishing around 10pm), 2-3 hours on a Sunday morning (starting at 830am) and for hours at a time at random other times.

After we moved in the church was given a grant for a new peal and it attracts bell ringing groups from all over the region who descend to practice, For those who live close to the church it’s insufferable, for everyone else it’s apparently lovely.

I think a lot of people commenting haven’t actually lived near a church, they might think the bells are a lovely sound but after listening to them for several hours I suspect they would find it a bit grating.

Years ago I moved in with my ex boyfriend who lived opposite a church and didn’t realise how noisy it actually was. People are saying that bells don’t ring for hours on end but in my experience they did and I found it difficult.
I liked listening to them for short periods but when I had a 5am start and was going to bed at 9pm and the bells were ringing up till 10pm it was difficult, even with double glazing you could hear it clearly and couldn’t have the windows open in summer.
The neighbours also said they found it irritating and wished it didn’t go on for as long.

We lived in the best location for a night out but no one ever wanted to stay the night on a Saturday because they didn’t want waking up at 8am to loud ringing bells.

I couldn’t complain because as people have pointed out the church was there first and it is heritage, I was glad when I moved but I could still hear them half a mile away across town!

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 19:59

Noise is a strange thing and you can get used to it. We lived next to a printing works, our bedroom window was about 1.5m from their windows, being in the Med area our bedroom windows were open with shutters closed. They printed a newspaper 6 days a week, starting at 3am, no Sunday edition and we got used to this noise which was likened by a visitor to trying to sleep on a Tube station when heard during the day, even our new baby had no problem. However if it was Bank Holiday Monday and they didn't print at 3am on Monday we were awakened by the lack of noise!

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 17/11/2024 19:11

SallyForf · 17/11/2024 16:52

Can't you even click 'see all' of the OP's posts?

No this is all l get

Church bells
Commoncold · 17/11/2024 18:07

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 17:48

Oh, the boringness of trotting out the current in-vogue words, mindlessly hoping to sound frightfully superior.
The intelligent among us know that 'privilege' is not involved at all in this thread, try to join us.

What a way with words! 😂

drspouse · 17/11/2024 18:06

CruCru · 17/11/2024 10:38

What sort of help do you suggest the OP gets? Her GP may prescribe medication but, if she is in temporary accommodation, it may be that she doesn’t have a GP.

The best help for her anxiety would be to move into permanent accommodation. I would be anxious if I were living in a hostel.

Given she's being made anxious by something harmless, CBT would be the right track. I posted my question before she told us it was a hostel. Women's Aid might be able to signpost her to a counsellor as might Shelter or similar if it's a homelessness issue.

Words · 17/11/2024 18:01

Completely unreasonable. It's a timeless cultural heritage practice.

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 17:54

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2024 13:24

we used to have a church bell that chimed the hour through the night near us. I used to find it a comforting sound when I couldn't sleep.
Then someone got it stopped.

No you didn't you had a chiming clock

SabreIsMyFave · 17/11/2024 17:49

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 17:48

Oh, the boringness of trotting out the current in-vogue words, mindlessly hoping to sound frightfully superior.
The intelligent among us know that 'privilege' is not involved at all in this thread, try to join us.

😆 Beautifully put!

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 17:48

Lellamir · 17/11/2024 11:58

Oh, the cluelessness of privilege.

Oh, the boringness of trotting out the current in-vogue words, mindlessly hoping to sound frightfully superior.
The intelligent among us know that 'privilege' is not involved at all in this thread, try to join us.

JudgeJ · 17/11/2024 17:43

CautiousLurker1 · 17/11/2024 10:48

YABU - af course they should be allowed (sic) to play their bells - the churches have often been in situ for centuries and were there when you purchased your property. Bit like complaining of noice from the pub next door of the motorway/dual carriage way that were present when you purchased your home 🤦🏽‍♀️. I appreciate that you may not have been aware of this when moving into your home, but it’s one of those things you need to accept is out of your control - like the traffic noise, or the sounds of cats squalling in the night. The worl cannot change for every individual’s idiosyncrasies. I’d put some music on loud or invest in noise excluding headphones if it really is an issue.

And as a non church goer, I love the sound. It feels very specifically ‘English’. Think Miss Marple and Midsomer Murders…

Edited

I don't think we've ever had a murder in the bell tower of our church!

DemonicCaveMaggot · 17/11/2024 16:57

You could contact the tower captain to ask why the bells are being rung so frequently for such a long time. To ring a peal takes three hours non-stop but peals aren't rung that often. It may be that there is something special going on at the church or in the local ringing guild that is causing them to be rung. We had quarter peal week in our ringing guild a couple of weeks ago and there were a lot of quarter peals rung - but they only take 45 minutes. That was only for a week though.

SallyForf · 17/11/2024 16:52

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 17/11/2024 16:13

Maybe that could have been in the op - not gonna read over 300 replies to answer 1 question.

Can't you even click 'see all' of the OP's posts?

PaulaNMillstoneJennings · 17/11/2024 16:47

Unless you live here... dammit wrong link. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1169498870176748?multi_permalinks=2044700515989908&hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen