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Do think that La Leche League are now a danger to babies?

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WandsOut · 17/11/2024 07:59

www.thetimes.com/article/dbc0da0f-9255-47d9-8819-f407afeb233c?shareToken=0104affbaef0be8bc38b6f33d859c0aa

The bullying described here and the sheer idiocy of insisting by that biological males must be supported in breastfeeding is insane.

AIBU to say they have lost the plot and need to be investigated?

YABU - man milk is as good if not better than women's milk according to activists
"On Monday night, the BBC chose to discuss the man-milk affair with a young woman called Kate Luxion, an unqualified ‘trainee lactation consultant’ and a researcher at UCL. With a composed and serious expression, Luxion insisted that not only was man milk safe, but ‘studies’ had actually found that a trans woman’s milk contained more nutrients than the milk of a baby’s mother. The presenter nodded happily along. Nod, nod, smile, smile. Yep, sounded right to her."

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TheaBrandt · 17/11/2024 09:04

A new sane organisation is needed for this important cause this one has lost the plot and is no longer fit for purpose.

user1467300911 · 17/11/2024 09:03

In a world where 1 in 4 women experience domestic abuse before the age of 50, overwhelmingly at the hands of men, women, and especially new mothers, need safe spaces.

Males, regardless of how they identify, should be in a breastfeeding peer support group, no matter how they identify.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 17/11/2024 08:57

MightyMichaela · 17/11/2024 08:47

Does anyone have a link to a study which analyses and compares in detail the various components of breast milk, male 'milk', and formula?

If not, the bigger concern is why this hasn't been done.

Because it applies to a tiny amount of people worldwide. Research costs money. The cost usually has to be justified by the potential benefit/impact.

Spending money for the small amount of biological men who want to breastfeed likely can't be justified.

SlopyCeiling · 17/11/2024 08:55

This is insane. Mindblowingly so.
I honestly don't even understand how this could possibly have come about. I do not this LLL is fit for purpose with this POV, no.

VeryCheesyChips · 17/11/2024 08:52

MightyMichaela · 17/11/2024 08:47

Does anyone have a link to a study which analyses and compares in detail the various components of breast milk, male 'milk', and formula?

If not, the bigger concern is why this hasn't been done.

Because it’s chemically induced puss.

MightyMichaela · 17/11/2024 08:47

Does anyone have a link to a study which analyses and compares in detail the various components of breast milk, male 'milk', and formula?

If not, the bigger concern is why this hasn't been done.

Pelagi · 17/11/2024 08:45

Much as I think there is way too much emphasis on the feeling of the trans women parents here, relative to the actual safety of the babies, isn’t the right comparison whether the babies are better off with bottle milk? Because presumably once the trans woman is the parent in charge of the baby there isn’t a female parent there? Unless they are in a couple with a female parent of course. But anyway it all seems highly un-evidenced even in comparison with bottle milk, which has been used for decades and subject of much research and safety testing etc.

AgathaMystery · 17/11/2024 08:32

God. This is depressing.

Igmum · 17/11/2024 08:30

This is awful. And utterly insane. You have to be blinkered beyond the point of reason to believe that the drug induced fluid from male nipples is the same (better???) than women's breast milk. Why is no one speaking up for the babies? How can they consent to consume drugs?

WandsOut · 17/11/2024 08:03

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14070057/Founder-worlds-oldest-Breastfeeding-charity-QUITS-transgender-women.html

"In a damning resignation letter from the board of directors, the 94-year-old condemned the group’s shift from focusing on mothering to ‘indulging the fantasies of adults’.
She wrote in a letter to senior figures at La Leche League (LLL): ‘From an organisation with the specific mission of supporting biological women who want to give their babies the best start in life by breastfeeding themem*_, LLL’s focus has subtly shifted to include men who, for whatever reason, want to have the experience of breastfeeding, despite no careful long-term research on male lactation and how that may affect the baby.
‘This shift from following the norms of nature, which is the core of mothering through breastfeeding, to indulging the fantasies of adults, is destroying our organisation.’

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