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Have people forgotten about covid and what's really important?

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Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

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LoneStar7 · 17/11/2024 09:20

Oniya · 17/11/2024 06:40

Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online. It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own.

Why have you posted this? I’m absolutely sick of the divisiveness on MN and its always around teachers.

I worked more during lockdown than I’ve ever worked (biotech) and also had to supervise DC when there were at online lessons and when they weren’t.

I’m the same as everyone else. Who decides who gets a special badge and had it harder? It was very difficult for lots of people for lots of reasons.

Just stop.

My kids weren’t taught online. During the first lockdown in particular we didn’t see hide nor hair of any teacher. They posted worksheets on SeeSaw at 9am and left us to get on with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

They wouldn’t teach online because it wasn’t safe or some bullshit.

I have a lot of respect for teachers and the work they do and recognise it’s a bloody hard job but my experience was that a lot of them were MIA during Covid and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

Heatherjayne1972 · 17/11/2024 09:20

What really hacked me off was that us dental people weren’t allowed to see patients at all for the first lockdown - not even to see patients in pain. Our practice got investigated for doing ‘illegal dentistry’ in May 2020. The folks at 111 were just swamped with calls for help and were calling us as they had no other options - which prompted an enquiry.

There were ‘dental hubs’ available but they literally only did extractions on a very few people. That was ridiculous

also we are very good at cross infection and cleaner than a lot of hospitals but the rules for us were way over the top. ( people queuing outside / must have window open/ we had to wear respirator masks and clean from top of cupboards and mop floor after every patient’ for eg plus loads more rules ). Then one day the rules were just totally relaxed. No weaning off. Just finished

but the GPs. No they couldn’t see patients in all three lockdowns. Oh no far too dangerous for them. That really really annoyed me

crazy times

friendconcern · 17/11/2024 09:16

Differentstarts · 17/11/2024 08:56

Can you not see how hurtful comments like this are to people like me. I had family members, friends and colleagues die from covid, I nearly died from covid I spent over a month in hospital. I'm still struggling with long covid over 2 years later. I'm now disabled and can no longer work full time. Just because you got of lightly others didn't.

I agree and I’m sorry you went through that. People like this make a choice to ignore facts that they don’t want to hear because taking them on board would challenge their notion of being special or superior. There is no point taking it any more seriously than someone who says they are an alien.

Lovelysummerdays · 17/11/2024 09:15

I had to spend two weeks failing to home educate my children whilst working to midnight so I could keep my own job just last month. What I’ve learnt is school still doesn’t have an effective e-learning program in place. Reality is no one in power really cares about you or your family. Really all you can do is keep your head down and do your best and hope you don’t need much in the way of assistance because it isn’t there.

Tumbleweed101 · 17/11/2024 09:13

Things never have gone completely back to normal. We are much closer to a cashless society - I had to get my daughter a bank account and card after lockdown, much earlier than I did for her siblings, because she couldn’t even buy an ice cream with her cash pocket money any more as it was all card machine payments. This means a whole generation are missing out the maths skill of counting out money and understanding the concept of
getting change.

You still have to prebook things. It’s fine for some things but a real pain for others. I don’t want to go somewhere in bad weather just because I had to prebook a week or two before.

So many high street shops have closed down to the point there is little to browse now.

Babies and young children were affected far more than expected. Not socialising with others and having parents trying to work from home and not giving them their full attention has had a huge impact.

Cattery · 17/11/2024 09:13

@SmudgeButt Oh indeed. Or the wanker behind you standing right up next to you while you’re paying. Er, back off love; I haven’t finished my turn yet. People are pigs

mydogisthebest · 17/11/2024 09:13

Lots of people were rude and selfish before covid and, sadly, now many many more are.

Plastictrees · 17/11/2024 09:10

I certainly haven’t forgotten. It was a terrible time and the impact will be felt for many years to come. The gaslighting government, lack of PPE in the NHS, the ridiculous ‘clap for carers’, all the deaths directly due to covid and also indirectly due to covid e.g people not being able to get treatment for cancer. Funerals being held remotely, the social isolation, the horrific increased rates of domestic violence in lockdown, the impact on the mental health of the population including young children who missed out crucial years of social development. The constant sense of threat and anxiety, the fear of spreading covid accidentally to the clinically vulnerable, the fact that the clinically vulnerable had been self isolating prior to Covid anyway - highlighting the inequalities those with long term health conditions and disabilities face. The impact of covid on BME communities and again how this highlighted inequalities in health care and longstanding issues that need addressing, but haven’t really been.

I think the whole thing has largely been swept under the carpet and there’s been no real reflection, learning or actions taken as a result of what came to light during covid - on a systemic level. All blame and responsibility was pushed onto individuals instead. I feel exhausted thinking about it.

I am glad things are more ‘normal’ now however I will always be disgusted by how the government dealt with it.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 09:08

I think the pet killing stuff was in retrospect rather than at the time, wasn't it? Johnson claimed there was an idea they might have to cull all pet cats (and presumably strays also?) but the way he phrased it sounded like he knew that was completely unrealistic.

scalt · 17/11/2024 09:03

It was extremely valuable lesson in how a supposed "democracy" can turn into tyranny at the drop of a hat (and it could still happen again), and that those at the top do not care about the "little people" at all, as beautifully proved by one Saint Boris. And yes, we were desperate to get back to normal, and not the "new normal" that the government kept telling us about, which implied that restrictions might become very, very permanent.

A short initial lockdown might have been justified, in the circumstances. But so much wasn't: extending lockdowns by stealth "just three more weeks, just three more weeks...", impossible promises "we can turn this virus around in twelve weeks", keeping children out of school for months on end, encouraging the public to dob each other in (yes, the government actively encouraged this), playing divide and conquer to keep the public fighting (e.g. with vaccination), deliberately frightening the pants off the public, preventing people from comforting their dying loved ones, closing playgrounds, talking of killing pets because they might spread the virus, making children believe they killed granny, calling children names, such as "vectors of transmission", bringing us dangerously close to forced vaccination; so much of that was CRUEL, INHUMANE, AND UNNECESSARY. And then Partygate being the proof that the government knew that it was mostly bullshit.

Knickersinatwist22 · 17/11/2024 09:01

No wee haven't forgotten covid or what's Important..this is a pointless post

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/11/2024 08:59

How could we forget? We're still dealing with rampant inflation and the enshitification of society that it spawned. Have you seen the average town centre now?

Tiredmumtoboy · 17/11/2024 08:58

Mumblechum0 · 16/11/2024 23:51

I think most people were just desperate to go back to normal.

It all feels like a horrible dream now.

The lasting effects seem to be mostly for kids who lost out on early years learning, a friend of mine is a teacher and says there's a marked difference in pre and post Covid reception children in terms of social skills

That's really interesting!

What differences did she notice if I might ask?

Tahlbias · 17/11/2024 08:58

Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

Or the impact that COVID had on our young children. Children who are still afraid to go into a school and are homeschooled. The world keeps turning, I'm afraid

Differentstarts · 17/11/2024 08:56

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

Can you not see how hurtful comments like this are to people like me. I had family members, friends and colleagues die from covid, I nearly died from covid I spent over a month in hospital. I'm still struggling with long covid over 2 years later. I'm now disabled and can no longer work full time. Just because you got of lightly others didn't.

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:55

Well no matter @Attelina : the likes of Trump and vaccine sceptic RFK JR will be your scientific advisors during the next pandemic. You’ll be told to drink bleach.

Cyclingmummy1 · 17/11/2024 08:54

JolieFilleCommentCaVa · 17/11/2024 00:04

The world realised what was important.

No it didn’t 😂

Boris and his mates in number 10 were partying whilst telling all us plebs to “stay home, save lives”.

We were also told to stay home but at the same time “eat out to help out”.

Selfish people raided the supermarket shelves of pasta, baked beans and toilet roll. Going to the supermarket for essentials was like going out for basic rations in WWII.

Small business owners lost their livelihoods, whilst the mates of the Tories were awarded hundred million pound contracts to supply PPE and profiting millions.

There was so much hostility. Neighbours turning on one another. Reporting each other to the police for “breaking guidelines”. Whilst our lovely Tory politicians were also breaking the guidelines but gave no fucks about it. And gave no fucks for ordinary working class people.

It was an entire fucking shambles.

Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

The country was shit before the pandemic. Was shit during the pandemic. And still is shit after the pandemic.

I think people have the right to complain when the standard and cost of living in this country is (and sorry for repeating myself) shit!

Government employees and politicians of all parties were breaking guidelines.

soupfiend · 17/11/2024 08:51

What is 'really important' then?

The covid shut downs were awful for society, we will be burdened with the impact of this for decades to come. A generational disadvantage that will affect us all.

People are rude and entitled because there is a growing sense of individuality and specialiness. People dont want to consider that there is nothing special or different about them.

HonoraBridge · 17/11/2024 08:51

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

🎯🎯🎯

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:50

The scary thing is : with likes of highly individualistic individuals like Trump/Musk etc dominating the world, who have extreme amounts of money - they can PAY to corrupt politics. They have power through their billions. This worries me more than Covid.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 08:48

I think threads like this should be archived forever so that future historians can enjoy comparing them with similar threads from the time of covid and also five years hence, to see how memories and recollections evolve and change. Just as there was a lot of recording for prosperity of those with experiences and of the Second World War; all the more important as the last people with memories that time leave the stage permanently. In 70+ years time it will be the same for Covid.

Really interesting point.

Menapausemum1974 · 17/11/2024 08:48

pumpkinpillow · 17/11/2024 00:25

I'm sure there were twats as there have always been, but I thought it was a positive thing that suddenly many jobs which are low paid and often looked down on as unskilled and unimportant suddenly got more respect e.g. carers, supermarket workers, food provision, bus drivers.

it was the security guards at Morrisons that thought they were the Gestapo! Their heads definitely swelled for a while, they have gone a bit quiet now 🤣

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:46

I think people have become increasingly individualistic/self preservation due to Covid. Hence the popularity of Trump/Farage. This happens when people experience hardship.

pleasehelpwi3 · 17/11/2024 08:45

Some people were and always will rude and entitled.
In others covid brought out the best in people.
My NHS partner got the balance right- politely enquiring usually but not always if there was an NHS discount,but not taking the piss eg for small purchases/in smaller businesses and being grateful when there was. They were told to look after their badges as there was a spate of badge thieving, anecdotally at least connected to discounts. Also, it cuts both ways- there is an expensive restaurant near us that still offers NHS workers a 10% discount off the entire bill, and we probably wouldn't go there if they didn't. It's a win-win: they still make a profit and we save some money.
It does feel like ages ago now anyway. I think threads like this should be archived forever so that future historians can enjoy comparing them with similar threads from the time of covid and also five years hence, to see how memories and recollections evolve and change. Just as there was a lot of recording for prosperity of those with experiences and of the Second World War; all the more important as the last people with memories that time leave the stage permanently. In 70+ years time it will be the same for Covid.

Londontown12 · 17/11/2024 08:44

Tbh I don’t think it’s just covid !
Anyone that has tough times in life say for instance bereavement, cancer diagnosis, job loss , long term health conditions, they tend to see the world and people differently and actually realise what’s important!
Most people just going about theirs lives and only thinking about themselves is quite normal . However people have got absolutely entitled and rude I don’t really get it but hey if u carry on being nice your not one of them ❤️