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Need a hand hold -Part 3

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Imbluedalale · 16/11/2024 20:16

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Hi spoonies , welcome to new thread , thank you so so much for supporting me .

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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 21:01

Munchyseeds2 · 25/11/2024 19:47

@Imbluedalale that sofa is beautiful and looks so comfy and not too long to wait!

We went looking to replace an armchair that's about 20 years old at the weekend but we couldn't see anything we like....probably why we've had it for 20 years!😂

Your Mum is very wise isn't she? Sleep on things and see how you feel in a few days, it is a 'mistake' that the VP will never make again for sure

Enjoy time with your lad this evening xx

Evening @Munchyseeds2 ,thank you it’s a lovely sofa and I’m looking forward to it coming.
Is it the fabric on the armchair that needs restoring or the whole chair? You could take it to an antiques furniture workshop there was one in my old village and they restore it back to new looking xx

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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 20:59

Malbecfan · 25/11/2024 19:39

I don't want to spoil your evening with your DS but I've been thinking about your situation for a few hours now.

I've been teaching for 30+ years. I am a Head of Department but I work part time for various reasons. All Heads of Department in my school have several years' experience. People who are on the Senior Leadership Team have not only led departments, they have taken on additional responsibilities too. They have worked for a minimum of 10 years in those roles. All staff, teaching and support staff receive Safeguarding training, updates and refresher sessions several times per academic year. I simply cannot fathom that a Vice Principal, someone very senior in an organisation, can take such a lax attitude to safeguarding or be unaware of its importance. She must have received lots of input over her career, so it baffles me that she can have such a massive lapse in judgment. Asking you not to say anything smacks of her knowing she has messed up monumentally.

I wouldn't do anything this evening other than spend time with your DS, but tomorrow I would want to speak to the Designated Safeguarding Lead (DSL) of the college. You could frame it that you don't especially want to get the VP in trouble, but their knowledge of safeguarding is woeful and they need urgent refresher training. Should it be the case that this VP is also the DSL, go to the local authority. If the college asks what you want to get out of it as a resolution, you could answer "better training and the bus pass". You have nothing to lose by asking.

Hi @Malbecfan , how are you?
You’re not spoiling my evening at all and I really appreciate as much advice re the situation as possible. Son has gone now it was lovely to see him and he liked the house. His girlfriend is lovely and beautiful too. He has to have his hand operated on so I said I’ll be there if it’s ok with him when he’s given a date.
The vice principal is also the safeleading lead at college which is astonishing. My daughter stated several things in the email that I sent to the college that she simply wouldn’t have known and the vice principal on the first few calls kept apologising but on the last call she said she can’t recall speaking to daughter about the violence ??? Well she definitely did because my daughter doesn’t lie and she would have no reason to either. I said to her on the phone ‘you either said it or didn’t say it’ and she said ‘I might of said it but I can’t recall’ . Do you mean go to the council to let them know what’s happened as she’s the safeguarding lead?xx

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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 20:51

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 19:37

For my penny’s worth re the college, maybe you can raise it as a concern without making it a complaint, if you see what I mean. Sounds like there’s an issue of training for this vice principal required. Unfortunately she has made a serious mistake and that does need addressing, really. It’s naughty of her to put it on you not to take it further.

I do have my green coat and it’s been keeping me warm. No trains today. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

I tried a different M&S today and they didn’t have our bleeding perfume either 😡

Hi @Apolloneuro , I’m so sorry to hear there’s no trains again today. What a nightmare! I’m glad you have your lovely green coat with you and it’s keeping you warm. I can’t believe the M&S in London doesn’t sell shay and blue! We need to sort this @Apolloneuro , get writing that email 😂
Your right re vice principal she’s since sent my daughter a very gas lighting message . I didn’t know they was even allowed to send text messages to students. But she’s basically backtracking and saying it wasn’t meant to sound how it did. The problem is that she has asked me several times to not take it any further and she also said she will arrange daughters bus pass first thing tomorrow so it’s sorted but I feel like she’s trying to soften me up to not say anything xx

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Munchyseeds2 · 25/11/2024 19:47

@Imbluedalale that sofa is beautiful and looks so comfy and not too long to wait!

We went looking to replace an armchair that's about 20 years old at the weekend but we couldn't see anything we like....probably why we've had it for 20 years!😂

Your Mum is very wise isn't she? Sleep on things and see how you feel in a few days, it is a 'mistake' that the VP will never make again for sure

Enjoy time with your lad this evening xx

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 19:41

Agreed @Malbecfan It’s the sort of mistake you’d expect from a new teacher, not SLT.

Malbecfan · 25/11/2024 19:39

I don't want to spoil your evening with your DS but I've been thinking about your situation for a few hours now.

I've been teaching for 30+ years. I am a Head of Department but I work part time for various reasons. All Heads of Department in my school have several years' experience. People who are on the Senior Leadership Team have not only led departments, they have taken on additional responsibilities too. They have worked for a minimum of 10 years in those roles. All staff, teaching and support staff receive Safeguarding training, updates and refresher sessions several times per academic year. I simply cannot fathom that a Vice Principal, someone very senior in an organisation, can take such a lax attitude to safeguarding or be unaware of its importance. She must have received lots of input over her career, so it baffles me that she can have such a massive lapse in judgment. Asking you not to say anything smacks of her knowing she has messed up monumentally.

I wouldn't do anything this evening other than spend time with your DS, but tomorrow I would want to speak to the Designated Safeguarding Lead (DSL) of the college. You could frame it that you don't especially want to get the VP in trouble, but their knowledge of safeguarding is woeful and they need urgent refresher training. Should it be the case that this VP is also the DSL, go to the local authority. If the college asks what you want to get out of it as a resolution, you could answer "better training and the bus pass". You have nothing to lose by asking.

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 19:37

For my penny’s worth re the college, maybe you can raise it as a concern without making it a complaint, if you see what I mean. Sounds like there’s an issue of training for this vice principal required. Unfortunately she has made a serious mistake and that does need addressing, really. It’s naughty of her to put it on you not to take it further.

I do have my green coat and it’s been keeping me warm. No trains today. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

I tried a different M&S today and they didn’t have our bleeding perfume either 😡

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 19:31

New sofa , forgot to add …

Need a hand hold -Part 3
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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 19:28

RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 18:46

That’s a hard one on whether to take the issue further as it’s not like she can unsay it. But it really was a really bad mistake and if you do take it further they might be able to put better training in place for all staff around issues like this. Maybe just dont stress about whether or not to report for now and sleep on it?

Thats good that your older two have lovely teeth now! I figured it’s good to get it all sorted young. I had braces but only a retainer and not train tracks so my teeth arent quite straight. I wish I’d got the train tracks now!

thinking of you and hope you’re ok. At least your ex should be back in Liverpool tomorrow.

Thank you @RaspberryBeretxx . I will definitely sleep on it and maybe give it a few days to process as I’m still quite angry about it and my mum says you shouldn’t make decisions when your angry.
Good news is my eldest is on his way to see me with his girlfriend as it’s his birthday today , he’s 19. And he just rang me asking if I wanted anything fetching. Also my mum and dad offered to get me a sofa today so I’ve picked a lovely one it’s a creamy colours with 2 large footstools and lots of cushions I’ll add a picture so that’s coming Saturday and getting flooring done tomorrow.
My support worker called me back and she thinks I should definitely make a complaint re the college but I’m going to wait and see how it all is in a few days . I know people makes mistakes, I’ve made plenty and it’s done now so maybe I should just let it go xx

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RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 18:46

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 18:28

Thank you @RaspberryBeretxx . I’ve been looking on the college website and I’ve got the principles contact information and the CEO. I’ve looked at the safeguarding complaint process on direct gov for schools too. I’m still unsure what to do with the information tbh as the vice principal has rang me 4 times today and has asked that I don’t take it any further as she’s quite new to the role and she got it wrong. I don’t like telling on people .
Thank you for the hug ❤️
Glad you’ve had a nice day , my 2 eldest have braces and their teeth are turning out lovely wish I had them when I was younger xx

That’s a hard one on whether to take the issue further as it’s not like she can unsay it. But it really was a really bad mistake and if you do take it further they might be able to put better training in place for all staff around issues like this. Maybe just dont stress about whether or not to report for now and sleep on it?

Thats good that your older two have lovely teeth now! I figured it’s good to get it all sorted young. I had braces but only a retainer and not train tracks so my teeth arent quite straight. I wish I’d got the train tracks now!

thinking of you and hope you’re ok. At least your ex should be back in Liverpool tomorrow.

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 18:28

RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 18:06

Glad your mum and dad are there for you and you’ve spoken with your sister too. You need all the support. Big hug. I’m glad your dad has out plenty of locks on but hopefully ex will just try and brazen it out if he knows. It won’t help his case to keep DC if he’s arrested.

My Monday has been ok thanks, just took DS to get his braces tightened and various bits fixed back on (too many hard/chewy sweets I think 🤦🏻‍♀️).

Sending all the vibes to you Laura xx

Thank you @RaspberryBeretxx . I’ve been looking on the college website and I’ve got the principles contact information and the CEO. I’ve looked at the safeguarding complaint process on direct gov for schools too. I’m still unsure what to do with the information tbh as the vice principal has rang me 4 times today and has asked that I don’t take it any further as she’s quite new to the role and she got it wrong. I don’t like telling on people .
Thank you for the hug ❤️
Glad you’ve had a nice day , my 2 eldest have braces and their teeth are turning out lovely wish I had them when I was younger xx

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RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 18:06

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 16:14

Hi @RaspberryBeretxx , how’s your Monday going? My mum and dad are here they arrived about an hour ago . My mum is fuming on my behalf and said she feels like ringing college herself . My sister is a social worker and is mad as she says it’s a huge safeguarding issue and she said that when she speaks to children in her role they are never allowed to tell them about any abuse that the parent has experienced. Yes ex knows where I am but I have everything locked and my dad has just put all locks on the back gate . Still waiting for call back from domestic abuse team and my MH team xx

Glad your mum and dad are there for you and you’ve spoken with your sister too. You need all the support. Big hug. I’m glad your dad has out plenty of locks on but hopefully ex will just try and brazen it out if he knows. It won’t help his case to keep DC if he’s arrested.

My Monday has been ok thanks, just took DS to get his braces tightened and various bits fixed back on (too many hard/chewy sweets I think 🤦🏻‍♀️).

Sending all the vibes to you Laura xx

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 18:01

Munchyseeds2 · 25/11/2024 16:34

@Imbluedalale I'm glad your mam and dad are with you.
I have no idea what the vice principal was thinking and your sister is right, it should not have happened
I hope your daughter is OK xx

Hi @Munchyseeds2 , she is upset but she’s ok. Ex is throwing money at them all again today so I won’t get a look in. I hope you are ok xx

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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 18:00

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 16:24

Oh bloody hell. What an absolutely monumental cock up from the college.

The thing is, it’s all true and whilst it’s devastating for her, maybe in the end it’s the right thing. Where is your daughter now?

I wonder if it’s a good idea to contact the lovely police officers that picked you up at the station. You never know, they might organise a drive by overnight. Does he know your exact address?

Regarding your youngest, he can’t keep him from you. I know he feels powerful to you, but the law is on your side. Xxx

Hi @Apolloneuro , so sorry to hear you’re still in London. I hope you manage to get home this evening. Sending big hugs. I hope you have your lovely green coat with you to keep you warm.
My daughter has been at college all day and ex is back there and he’s lovingly taken them all out for a meal tonight and shopping so I won’t hear from them this evening. Going to have an early night I think I feel drained today xx

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Munchyseeds2 · 25/11/2024 16:34

@Imbluedalale I'm glad your mam and dad are with you.
I have no idea what the vice principal was thinking and your sister is right, it should not have happened
I hope your daughter is OK xx

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 16:24

Still stuck in London 🙃

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 16:24

Oh bloody hell. What an absolutely monumental cock up from the college.

The thing is, it’s all true and whilst it’s devastating for her, maybe in the end it’s the right thing. Where is your daughter now?

I wonder if it’s a good idea to contact the lovely police officers that picked you up at the station. You never know, they might organise a drive by overnight. Does he know your exact address?

Regarding your youngest, he can’t keep him from you. I know he feels powerful to you, but the law is on your side. Xxx

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 16:14

Hi @RaspberryBeretxx , how’s your Monday going? My mum and dad are here they arrived about an hour ago . My mum is fuming on my behalf and said she feels like ringing college herself . My sister is a social worker and is mad as she says it’s a huge safeguarding issue and she said that when she speaks to children in her role they are never allowed to tell them about any abuse that the parent has experienced. Yes ex knows where I am but I have everything locked and my dad has just put all locks on the back gate . Still waiting for call back from domestic abuse team and my MH team xx

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RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 16:02

Just checking in and hoping you’re ok @Imbluedalale . I know it must be terrifying. I hope you can speak to your daughter in person and that your ex hasn’t found out. Does he know where you are? Also hoping someone from the domestic abuse team can ring back or your support worker. Have you rung your mum? It might help to have someone to talk to.

Munchyseeds2 · 25/11/2024 15:22

Hopefully someone will contact you soon xx

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 14:31

Malbecfan · 25/11/2024 13:53

Don't do anything for now @Imbluedalale apart from breathe.

I can't remember but how old is your DD? I suspect the college might be in deep poo for divulging your information to your DD, so wait it out and see what happens. Realistically, apart from keeping your DC from you, what else can Ex do? Your DD won't see him in any sort of rosy light now. Try not to panic - hopefully Ex will be having too much of a good time in Liverpool to care.

She’s just turned 17 xx

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Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 14:31

Hi all, sorry I’m only just replying I’ve been trying to get my head around everything from this morning. I didn’t want to tell daughter in a message or on the phone as I wanted to talk to her in person about everything I think that kind of conversation needed to be in person.
The vice principal rang me back and again she said she’s really sorry and that she wasn’t thinking and she shouldn’t have shared the email and its contents with daughter. She said she should have called me first and asked that I give her a chance to rectify it . So during this time I’m texting daughter and consoling her but not saying too much in a message incase ex sees and the vice principal has texted daughter and said she got it wrong and it wasn’t how she worded it just that she has to be extra careful with safeguarding and that I didn’t email her saying anything after all. I’d already told daughter I had sent an email but didn’t disclose its contents so she’s made it even worse now! Ex is currently here in Doncaster as he came back late last night and is staying until tomorrow morning where he will be taking youngest son back with him so he’s here now. I’ve tried ringing my support worker and domestic abuse team but nobody available so left messages to call me back. I’m worried that ex or his mum will turn up as they are both violent and also that this gives my ex more ammo to keep my youngest away from me . I’ve asked my daughter to not say anything just yet but I think she already might have with her being so upset earlier . Vice principal said she knows she’s done wrong and she’s rang me a few times since to apologise xx

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Malbecfan · 25/11/2024 13:53

Don't do anything for now @Imbluedalale apart from breathe.

I can't remember but how old is your DD? I suspect the college might be in deep poo for divulging your information to your DD, so wait it out and see what happens. Realistically, apart from keeping your DC from you, what else can Ex do? Your DD won't see him in any sort of rosy light now. Try not to panic - hopefully Ex will be having too much of a good time in Liverpool to care.

RaspberryBeretxx · 25/11/2024 13:05

Imbluedalale · 25/11/2024 10:06

OMG I can’t believe I’m writing this . I’m shaking and my tummy is doing somersaults . I sent an email to my daughters college last week regarding getting her an extra bus pass as I phoned the college and they said I needed to put everything in an email explaining everything which I did and I included some details of the DV as one of the reasons for having to flee the property and ex making me homeless . Daughter has just rang me upset as the vice principal of the college has told her I sent an email to them on Friday and has told my daughter about the broken ribs! My daughter is inconsolable now . I’ve just rang the college but vice principal is in a meeting. Why would she tell my daughter all the details of the email? What do I do because now ex is going to know I’ve told people and he’s going to go ballistic?xx

Oh I’m so sorry! How absolutely unprofessional of the vice principal to tell your DD! So awful. Can you talk to her about what a sensitive situation it is with her dad and maybe she won’t tell him for now? I know she shouldn’t have to keep that secret but whatever keeps the 2 of you and your younger DS safest is important right now. Also sending lots of love and strength to you.

Wibblywobblybobbly · 25/11/2024 11:29

That's awful. Is there any way that you can see her in person today? Go to the college perhaps? Maybe there's a spare office you could sit in with her. I think it's important that you sit down together so you can explain that you were trying to protect her and didn't want to put her in a difficult position. Perhaps she would agree not to say anything to him if you explain your concerns? It might be that she prefers to live with you now, but she doesn't need to tell him that this is the reason.

I know it's really tough, but ultimately it may not be a bad thing her knowing the way that you've been treated and that women do not have to tolerate that sort of behaviour. She has probably taken in a lot more than you realise over the years, and thinks the sort of relationship is normal. In the long run it is important that she understands that what she has witnessed is not a healthy loving relationship so that she learns to expect better for herself.

But I appreciate that this is really not the way that you would have wanted any of this to come out and must be a horrid shock x