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To think separated parents have the best of both worlds?

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Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:10

I know - sounds like a goady title and I don’t intend it to.

I am specifically talking about parents who have split and one parent had the children for at least some of the time.

I don’t catch a break. I’m either working, caring for children or on the very rare occasion I am not doing either I’m doing household tasks and they really do need doing no matter how low you make your standards. Life is relentless and if I am honest pretty horrendous.

I know DH should be doing more but I can’t get through to him. We’ve had any number of conversations and they just end in sniping and bad feelings. Please don’t tell me to talk to him; you can’t and it just wastes everybody’s time.

One or my friends has split from her partner and she gets a day every weekend (child goes on the Saturday evening so she gets that ‘off’) and she collects him Sunday evening. Sleeping through one day a week and a lie in the next day with a full day to yourself feels like untold luxury to me at the moment. And she has an evening free in the week too.

I know people will say to do it then if it’s that easy and I have thought about it. But it obviously is a massive thing to break up a family and I don’t think it would make the children happy, just me and in many ways I’m the least important one.

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CrispieCake · 16/11/2024 12:53

Just walk out. Tomorrow morning, just walk out. Message your partner that you need some time and space and you won't be answering calls and he should only message you in case of an emergency. Tell him when you'll be back so he can reassure the kids.

He's a parent too. You don't need his permission to have a break, although most couples do run things by each other because it's courteous and considerate to do so. But that goes out the window if one partner is obviously content with an unequal and oppressive status quo in their favour.

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 12:52

Tristar15 · 16/11/2024 12:49

Are you serious? Financially I have to work to pay for everything, I get £300 a month in maintenance which is a lot more than some single parents get but it doesn’t even cover wraparound care each month. There is no one to talk to, no one to ask or check that you’re doing the right thing. My DD goes to her dad’s once a month from 17:00 on a Friday to 13:30 on a Sunday. I spend this time frantically trying to keep on top of everything in the house.
Your view is warped. All you’re seeing is someone supposedly getting a break once in a while when the reality is they’ll be significantly more at breaking point than you due to to the huge mental load they carry for everything.
Why don’t you split up with your husband then get back to us about how you’re managing financially and how easy it is when you get the odd weekend to yourself.

This!!

Tristar15 · 16/11/2024 12:49

Are you serious? Financially I have to work to pay for everything, I get £300 a month in maintenance which is a lot more than some single parents get but it doesn’t even cover wraparound care each month. There is no one to talk to, no one to ask or check that you’re doing the right thing. My DD goes to her dad’s once a month from 17:00 on a Friday to 13:30 on a Sunday. I spend this time frantically trying to keep on top of everything in the house.
Your view is warped. All you’re seeing is someone supposedly getting a break once in a while when the reality is they’ll be significantly more at breaking point than you due to to the huge mental load they carry for everything.
Why don’t you split up with your husband then get back to us about how you’re managing financially and how easy it is when you get the odd weekend to yourself.

Wonderwall23 · 16/11/2024 12:47

McSpoot · 16/11/2024 12:26

You’re comparing a “perfect” scenario for the separated parents and a crappy one for the married parents. Of course the separated scenario seems better.

100% this

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 12:47

Having been through this and now with almost adult children, I would say definitely try to find a way to spread the load with your other half.
Parenting changes so much as your children grow up and, although it may not feel like it now, it goes by very quickly.

As they become more independent you will get your life back and your relationship with your DH will also change.
Only split if you feel you & he don't love each other anymore & there is no way back for you because where you are now in the child rearing trenches doesn't last forever but a marriage split will.

NC10125 · 16/11/2024 12:46

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:42

That’s also a good point but I think at the moment it feels like Santa or the tooth fairy or something.

Having that space, that time where you know it’s yours feels so alluring. I know I’m just very tired and ground down by the demands of life, but I realised yesterday I was dreading the weekend, it feels like such hard, hard work.

What would happen if you just went away one weekend a month? With the offer that he could do the same?

NC10125 · 16/11/2024 12:44

I’m a single parent and I agree with you.

The kids dad was a bit of a shit parent before we split, and is a bit of a shit parent now. But he does have them 4 nights a month, so I get more time than I used to. And I feel happier and less resentful.

But, I’m very very lucky that I’m secure financially so I can afford a cleaner, am not living up to the wire every month etc - maintenance isn’t fit for purpose in the uk and so many single parents really struggle.

There are some bits which are harder- it’s more stressful without a second adult in the house plus no way to nip out in the evening so you have to be more organised which I do feel saps some of the fun.

mondaytosunday · 16/11/2024 12:43

Taking finances out, I think amicably separated/divorced parents seem to do well with child raising if both are on the same page about it.
A friend had 50/50 with her husband and they got on very well and the children coped with living between two homes because both were near their school.
But if not amicable or financially unequal often children mean you must still communicate and they can get caught in the middle. Holidays can be fraught.

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:43

We can’t @Redlorryyellowcar

The younger child doesn’t sleep through and wouldn’t settle for a babysitter, cleaners just create more work (sorry but I’ve never found one to clean to a good standard and you have to tidy for then first. And then the house is a tip within a couple of days anyway) and we have no family who will help.

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Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:42

MumblesParty · 16/11/2024 12:40

OP if you’re going to look at other set-ups and feel envious, why not direct your envy at the obvious one - the situations in which parents are together and share the load equally?

That’s also a good point but I think at the moment it feels like Santa or the tooth fairy or something.

Having that space, that time where you know it’s yours feels so alluring. I know I’m just very tired and ground down by the demands of life, but I realised yesterday I was dreading the weekend, it feels like such hard, hard work.

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Redlorryyellowcar · 16/11/2024 12:41

Can you book a babysitter once a fortnight?

can you book some days off work during the week when kids at childcare?

can you leave kids with family and go away for weekend?

it might be worth a try before divorce (and a bit easier?!)

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 12:40

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:37

@Colourfulduvets i am not saying that they are ‘having the best time.’

Ive answered your second paragraph in my OP and again subsequently. I do think that for me splitting would be beneficial, at least in the short term. I’d have some life back. It wouldn’t however benefit anybody else and I do have to think about everybody else.

I don't understand the point of your post, then?
So you think it would be better for you but not your kids so you won't do it.
Fine.
What are you wanting people to tell you?

MumblesParty · 16/11/2024 12:40

OP if you’re going to look at other set-ups and feel envious, why not direct your envy at the obvious one - the situations in which parents are together and share the load equally?

SoporificLettuce · 16/11/2024 12:38

I know someone trying to coparent with a coercive controlling ex and she would give anything to do it all by herself.
YABU

Plastictrees · 16/11/2024 12:38

You’ve got a DH problem here OP. I’m sure I would feel the same in your shoes.

He needs to shape up or ship out!

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:37

@Colourfulduvets i am not saying that they are ‘having the best time.’

Ive answered your second paragraph in my OP and again subsequently. I do think that for me splitting would be beneficial, at least in the short term. I’d have some life back. It wouldn’t however benefit anybody else and I do have to think about everybody else.

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Daisydurrbridge · 16/11/2024 12:36

Generally speaking I think the man has it much easier than the woman. I say this as the mother of two sons, both separated and a divorced Son in
Law.

I am still close to my ex DiLs and see first hand the difference in lifestyle. This is despite 50/50 co-parenting

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 12:36

Implying separated parents are having the best time because they get a lie in once a week is both offensive and completely downplays the impact of a split. However much a split is needed and is the right choice for a couple, it's still a difficult and painful thing to go through for all concerned.

If it's so good to separate why don't you just do it then?

At some point your children will be older and independent and you will get the time & space you crave.

afrikat · 16/11/2024 12:35

I think this is only true if you a) married a lazy arsehole and b) they do at least some parenting after you break up. My husband is amazing and we work as a team so share the load

I know you said there is no point talking to him but what if you suggest therapy? And say you are seriously considering separating if things don't improve?

Alternatively can you outsource anything? Cleaning? Meal deliveries?

Singleandproud · 16/11/2024 12:35

In my own personal circumstance yes I agree with you. However I also have a lot of family support too so lots of the things that are challenging midweek they were able to handle for me and I only have 1 DC which is infinitely easier than multiples.

DD spends every Sunday with her dad, it is just one day but on that day I get so much stuff done, can commit to an regular exercise class, or when she was little would go to the cinema or theatre and watch a more grown up show. I did an OU degree with all the reading and research done midweek and then writing it all up on the Sunday. I also have my parents living down the road who did all my childcare and school runs for me when she was at Primary which made a huge difference, or in the days before Deliveroo would nip to the shop for me if we were ill etc.

So yes I have thoroughly enjoyed my 'lone' parenting experience, and DD has thrived with it being just one adult in the home and no siblings.

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:34

Oh, he’d still be lazy. I have no doubt about that. But he’d manage one day a week I dare say and one evening especially if it meant he didn’t have to pay much maintenance.

And his laziness wouldn’t affect me in the same way. If he’s got the children and he doesn’t remind them to go to the toilet and they wet themselves then he has to sort that. It’s his house, his laundry, his wet child. It he doesn’t give them a reasonably healthy day food wise and then they are waking up at night hungry and wired that affects him, not me.

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ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 16/11/2024 12:30

You are making the assumption that your children's father would step up if you separated though. That's not a logical assumption.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 16/11/2024 12:30

If you're married to someone who doesn't pull his weight and it's a dick while you're married to him why you would you think he'd have a personality transplant when you divorce him and become the perfect co-parent? If he's lazy now he will be then.

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:28

@Colourfulduvets - it doesn’t. I’m specifically talking about me or the mother. I know it affects the children. That’s why I’m still here.

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Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:28

I can believe it.

Like above - I totally hear all that (and mine isn’t abusive, just bone idle.) But I do all the pick ups and drop offs anyway. DH hasn’t done any for over a year, and even then it was a really rare occasion, sort of once every two to three months.

It is expensive alone and I hear that, totally. (I lived alone for a loooong time!)

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