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To think separated parents have the best of both worlds?

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Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 12:10

I know - sounds like a goady title and I don’t intend it to.

I am specifically talking about parents who have split and one parent had the children for at least some of the time.

I don’t catch a break. I’m either working, caring for children or on the very rare occasion I am not doing either I’m doing household tasks and they really do need doing no matter how low you make your standards. Life is relentless and if I am honest pretty horrendous.

I know DH should be doing more but I can’t get through to him. We’ve had any number of conversations and they just end in sniping and bad feelings. Please don’t tell me to talk to him; you can’t and it just wastes everybody’s time.

One or my friends has split from her partner and she gets a day every weekend (child goes on the Saturday evening so she gets that ‘off’) and she collects him Sunday evening. Sleeping through one day a week and a lie in the next day with a full day to yourself feels like untold luxury to me at the moment. And she has an evening free in the week too.

I know people will say to do it then if it’s that easy and I have thought about it. But it obviously is a massive thing to break up a family and I don’t think it would make the children happy, just me and in many ways I’m the least important one.

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/11/2024 13:44

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:37

they really find it hard to have 2 or more days/nights every week away from their child

It is possibly because I have literally never been away from them (apart from nursery / work) but I would love it Blush Not all the time but it wouldn’t be all the time. A couple of nights is perfect.

they find it hard financially having to run a whole household on one income

This is the major downside, I agree

there’s also the fact that yes they get a day “off” every week but they have absolutely no help the rest of the days. There’s no other parent to get up with the kids and get them sorted when mum is unwell and really just needs more time in bed, or to do dinner/bath/bed when they are unwell so they can just go to bed early and get that extra sleep, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so they can go to the gym or for a run or to any kind of club to get some time for themselves, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so mum can have a bath and just relax after a long day at work, and they have no other parent to discuss the good & bad with at home

That is absolutely no different to now.

The thing is though, is a couple of nights perfect when that is Friday-Sunday? So you get to do all the hard bits of parenting, the homework, packed lunches, uniforms, strict bed time and morning routines, drop offs and pick ups, and then you don’t get any of the nice fun bits on a weekend?

If your husband genuinely doesn’t even watch the children for an hour on an evening so you can relax or go exercise or just sit and read a book in peace then I honestly don’t know why you’re with him, or why you allow that. It’s really simple- just leave the house. He’s their dad, he’s home, pack some snacks and just go, even if it’s to sit in a coffee shop for an hour and read a book. Take time for yourself.

familyissues12345 · 16/11/2024 13:42

I think it's swings and roundabouts really, but I'd say the negatives massively outweigh the positives.
If you're lucky enough to have a decent person to co parent with, who isn't a controlling knob and doesn't see the impact their behaviour has on their children then great! Unfortunately for me, I was controlled for many many years and it took a long time for DS to be able to voice his opinion. In the meantime his "darling dad" dictated and was a nasty piece of work, because it was his right apparently Hmm.

On the upside, I have friends who have been really fortunate with their Exes and it's worked out brilliantly

ObliviousCoalmine · 16/11/2024 13:41

You're being incredibly short sighted (and a martyr) in thinking that your children aren't picking up on the sniping and general disinterest between you both and from your husband.

Model better behaviour for them - and that isn't by wistfully staring at single mums who might get every other weekend to themselves but doing nothing pragmatic.

He won't engage and talk to you after multiple attempts? Then why are you there? He doesn't give one shit. He won't leave, why would he? You do everything. He's doing a-ok.

SprinklesSparkles · 16/11/2024 13:41

Lavender14 · 16/11/2024 13:39

Same for me - I do everything completely alone and while yes its tough going and there's no break I also would have been devastated to be away from ds half the week. Never mind all the difficulties that go hand in hand with trying to Co parent through a divorce and post separation or when new partners come into play and you've no control over what happens to your children half the time. My advice would be to book a babysitter if you need to so you can have some down time. If your dh isn't pulling his weight then you need to tell him that you want marriage counselling to sort this because you're burnt out, have nothing left to give and you are on the verge of leaving so either he starts to help and take responsibility or he'll be doing it himself without you there half the week.

We are all different I would happily do 50/50 week on week off. Didn’t have kids to raise them alone.. each to their own though

WouldIBeMad · 16/11/2024 13:41

I get what you're saying, when the kids were little (teens now) we joked that we should split up until they're older so we could get a break then get back together, but then realised we like the break to be together. It's similar to a time when I sometimes wished I'd broken my leg or something so I would have to spend time sitting around doing nothing.

Having since done that, it was not as fun (not on purpose, and when the kids were old enough to make me cups of tea and bring me gin/wine so it could have been a lot worse), I fear the splitting up thing would probably have been a similar anti-climax. 😅

Lavender14 · 16/11/2024 13:39

SprinklesSparkles · 16/11/2024 12:13

Hmm you would be surprised I’m a lone parent so I don’t get any break to myself what so ever literally never had a night off in 7 years nothing! ex doesn’t see them so I do everything, but all the single parents I speak to seem to be envious of me they say they hate their children being away from them and wish they could keep them all the time so a lot won’t agree with you but I personally think one of the perks of breaking up is getting regular breaks if you are lucky enough to get them! I would have happily done 50/50..

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Same for me - I do everything completely alone and while yes its tough going and there's no break I also would have been devastated to be away from ds half the week. Never mind all the difficulties that go hand in hand with trying to Co parent through a divorce and post separation or when new partners come into play and you've no control over what happens to your children half the time. My advice would be to book a babysitter if you need to so you can have some down time. If your dh isn't pulling his weight then you need to tell him that you want marriage counselling to sort this because you're burnt out, have nothing left to give and you are on the verge of leaving so either he starts to help and take responsibility or he'll be doing it himself without you there half the week.

stayathomer · 16/11/2024 13:38

How old are your children op?

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:37

they really find it hard to have 2 or more days/nights every week away from their child

It is possibly because I have literally never been away from them (apart from nursery / work) but I would love it Blush Not all the time but it wouldn’t be all the time. A couple of nights is perfect.

they find it hard financially having to run a whole household on one income

This is the major downside, I agree

there’s also the fact that yes they get a day “off” every week but they have absolutely no help the rest of the days. There’s no other parent to get up with the kids and get them sorted when mum is unwell and really just needs more time in bed, or to do dinner/bath/bed when they are unwell so they can just go to bed early and get that extra sleep, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so they can go to the gym or for a run or to any kind of club to get some time for themselves, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so mum can have a bath and just relax after a long day at work, and they have no other parent to discuss the good & bad with at home

That is absolutely no different to now.

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namechange1986 · 16/11/2024 13:36

You are underestimating the relentlessness of parenting alone. Your husband might be useless but he's still another adult in the building. This means you can pop to the shop when you run out of something, go out for a walk at the weekend without planning childcare, and have someone to look after children while you go to medical appointments. All of that goes when you are alone.

The financial strain is also huge. Every single bill you are now responsible for.

HeadJudgeShirley · 16/11/2024 13:35

It is more intense parenting on your own. But yes, I found the time off was a boon. Knowing I was always close to a weekend by myself was something I made sure to appreciate.

Choosenandenough · 16/11/2024 13:35

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:33

There is indeed @Choosenandenough Flowers

I am so sorry for your heartbreak and I hope you are in a happier place now.

It didn’t happen to me as I said in my post. But it’s the reality for a lot of people. Dealing with heartbreak and trying to parent is the worst.

Mrsttcno1 · 16/11/2024 13:35

I don’t envy single parents, I have a couple of friends who are in the situation you describe and they really find it hard to have 2 or more days/nights every week away from their child, they find it hard financially having to run a whole household on one income, there’s also the fact that yes they get a day “off” every week but they have absolutely no help the rest of the days. There’s no other parent to get up with the kids and get them sorted when mum is unwell and really just needs more time in bed, or to do dinner/bath/bed when they are unwell so they can just go to bed early and get that extra sleep, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so they can go to the gym or for a run or to any kind of club to get some time for themselves, there’s no other parent to step in on an evening so mum can have a bath and just relax after a long day at work, and they have no other parent to discuss the good & bad with at home.

InThePinkScarf · 16/11/2024 13:35

I did know a guy who loved this set up. Every weekend he got to party with his new girlfriend.
Most parents dislike it though as you miss a lot :(

Whatsitreallylike · 16/11/2024 13:33

Parents that manage the house and children 50:50 in a committed and loving relationship have the best of both worlds.
But yes, in the situation you describe, you would most likely be better off as a single parent

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:33

There is indeed @Choosenandenough Flowers

I am so sorry for your heartbreak and I hope you are in a happier place now.

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Nosleepforthismum · 16/11/2024 13:32

I get it but like anything, the grass is not really greener, just different. You wouldn’t have any updates on the kids or photos of the fun stuff they did on dad’s time. Finances would be much tighter. Arguments over contact time and favours. The big one for me would actually being the realisation that I was stuck in one place forever (or until they turn 18) as your ex isn’t going to give a shit that you’ve got an amazing job opportunity elsewhere. Other people taking a parenting role with your kids. Christmas’s and birthdays shared. Never getting gifts for your birthday or Mother’s Day because your ex doesn’t take them shopping. I could go on!

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:32

I have to admit I’m not sorry Colour - I’ve been finding you as frustrating as doubtless you’ve found me.

@Bizarred i know, the reality is different. I have also found myself longing for a hospital stay which is similarly bonkers.

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Choosenandenough · 16/11/2024 13:32

I mean, when you’re still in love with your partner and the relationship didn’t work out and you’re heartbroken (and this didn’t happen to me because I was done) but no … I don’t think you’re having the best of both worlds because your relationship with the person you love has broken down. Then you have to cope with them meeting someone else, your children spending time with them with the someone else, the not seeing your children for special occasions or missing out our on things because it’s not your allocated time, not being able to do everything you’d like with your children because it’s not doable on your own etc - Thera more to it than having time off.

Frowningprovidence · 16/11/2024 13:31

The thing is if you have the type of husband that would step up and properly parent if you separated, there's a strong chance he already is now or could be persuaded so you probably wouldn't be thinking thst way.

Financially there will be two households to pay for instead of one. And he may still not step up, either contact dropping off or him doing terrible job like feeding them junk, not washing thier clothes and not doing homework but they then see him as amazing as he only does fun stuff. Plus awkward christmas and birthdays
However you might still be happier seperated but not easier.

Bizarred · 16/11/2024 13:28

I remember being desperate for a break like that, but I also know that the reality would have been that I would have hated it.

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 13:28

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:27

I agree too. But my thread is supposed to purely be about for the other parent. I know it impacts children, that’s why I’m not leaving.

You are a bit infuriating to be honest.
I'm off.

Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:27

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 13:25

I agree with you there, MN definitely down plays the impact of separation.

I agree too. But my thread is supposed to purely be about for the other parent. I know it impacts children, that’s why I’m not leaving.

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Adventurebayholiday · 16/11/2024 13:26

The thing is, I don’t want a weekend away.

I don’t want to go away and spend a fortune on a hotel to sit in it alone. I want to be in my own home and have it clean and organised and calm.

I don’t want to walk in on a Sunday night to overtired hungry kids screaming and the house looking like Beirut and needing to cook their dinner and bath then and get them to bed.

I don’t want the frantic desperate tidy up before the cleaner comes only for them to text asking to rearrange. And then for them to do a half arsed job that looks OK for a day or so and then you either have to have those horrible ‘this really isn’t good enough’ conversations or find another cleaner. I want time to clean and tidy and for the people living in the house to help me with that.

i am pretty sure I am in a low place at the moment so I know it’s a bleak reply. But I don’t want weekends away or cleaners or anything other than a bit of peace and quiet!

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stayathomer · 16/11/2024 13:25

Op I think you need to collect your thoughts again- this just all seems odd and insulting to so many people!!

Colourfulduvets · 16/11/2024 13:25

Dontlletmedownbruce · 16/11/2024 13:21

I hear your frustration OP and have often wondered the same thing. The every other weekend arrangement would be lovely wouldn't it! And a child free summer holiday maybe. But people forget to mention you would be dealing with the fallout from a separation in terms of the children. It can be devastating for them and that can lead to difficult behaviours. So while you have a break from the kids, the time you have with them can be significantly worse. I find MN downplays the emotional impact of separation. Yes of course it is the right thing sometimes when it's a lesser of two evils scenario.

Book a few days for yourself, a weekend away somewhere and let DH struggle alone. Maybe point out that he would be doing that alone a lot more if you separated and the best way to prevent that is by doing a bit more now. Outsource, start hiring a cleaner or send laundry out even if you can't afford it. Explain that it's become priority because you are doing too much. He needs to step up but I think words aren't enough, you need to show him in other ways how it's become an issue that isn't going to go away.

I agree with you there, MN definitely down plays the impact of separation.

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