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To think DH is insane to suggest this

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onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:31

My husband blind sided me with this yesterday. Aibu to think he's insane?

My husband and his ex-gf share two children. They have been separated for 10 years (kids are early teens).

We have been together for 6 years and share a child who is 3.

Husbands ex has been in a relationship for the last 6/7 years. Unfortunately this has just ended.

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Right now, they co parent pretty well and it's relatively calm because DSC can mainly contact us/ their mum by themselves now so not much need for contact but it's by no means been an easy or stress free road. I am glad that we mainly need to have nothing to do with her anymore.

Anyway, due to her relationship ending, ex has said to DH that she'll be keeping the children all of Christmas day as she'll be by herself otherwise. Usually they split the day so one has morning, one has them for dinner and changes each year. It was DHs turn for Christmas dinner this year so he's understandably gutted. She has a habit of thinking decisions are hers to solely make and just informing him of what's happening. He doesn't fight her enough imo on this. They share custody completely equally.

DH has now been saying how Christmas will be rubbish now, won't even feel like Christmas, cant even be bothered with it now blah blah blah. Which I've told him is ridiculous seen as we also have a child so he needs to get a grip for their sake at least!

But anyway, he's just blind sided me yesterday saying that he's going to suggest to his ex that either she comes here for Christmas dinner with DSC (my family usually comes so that will be nice and awkward) or alternatively he wants to take our child to her house to see DSC in the afternoon on Christmas day, leaving me at home without our child on Christmas day.

I don't want either of those and think he's utterly insane for suggesting them. If he wants to see DSC on Christmas he needs to tell ex that her being alone on Xmas day isn't his problem and he wants DSC as previously arranged not expect all of us to adjust our day and me to be without our child to appease her. Imo if he doesn't want to argue with her on it, he should just accept seeing DSC on boxing day instead this year.

Aibu to argue this and say no? If he really wants to drop in to see DSC and can't just wait until boxing day then he can but I don't want our child going or her coming here.

OP posts:
GreyBlackLove · 17/11/2024 19:49

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:35

They both want things their own way.

Do they? I'd say the OPs version of "their own way" is to stick the existing agreement. Instead, she's suggesting a compromise where her DH goes to spend some time with his two older kids, or doing alternating years.

At 3 years old, morning and afternoon are pretty much the main parts of Christmas day. I don't blame OP for not wanting to give up a significant portion of her time with her DC and to take her DC away from GPs, toys and all the fun parts of Christmas unless they are keen to see their older siblings.

Rachel757677 · 17/11/2024 19:44

The fuss made over one day never ceases to astound me.

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 19:43

AnneLovesGilbert · 17/11/2024 10:05

Not to his youngest.

He wants to be able to see all of his children for an hour FFS!

H0210zero · 17/11/2024 19:43

As a child I spent many a year with both parents and their equivalent families at Christmas, one year at my mum's and her husband and the next year at my dad's and his wifes. This included the other parent each time. This only stopped when there was too many too accommodate due to kids and grandkids etc and even now when I'm 43 I have my dad's sister in law show sometimes at my mums and my dad's wife's kids show at my mum's, It was a blended family and still is. As all families should be if they're seperated.
But if you really can't abide to be together then I think you do need to accommodate the afternoon visit
A few hours away from your child isn't that bad. Even on Christmas day. Let him take him to see their siblings. They clearly want to work this out between them if they haven't took it to a.solicitor yet and frankly if anything it sounds like your not accomodating. Of course a mum doesn't want to be alone at Christmas. It's bad enough splitting up but to then have your kids go see dad while you sit at home is not nice.

ivegoneswimming · 17/11/2024 19:39

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:35

They both want things their own way.

Ex's relationship status has nothing do with the children visiting their Dad on Christmas Day. Couldn't she see family or go and feed the homeless or something if she doesn't want to be alone.

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:35

ivegoneswimming · 17/11/2024 19:24

Why does OP want everything her way? More like ex does. She just doesn't want her child to go but is quite OK with DH going.

They both want things their own way.

LBFseBrom · 17/11/2024 19:31

I just want to add, do people not realise they have to be flexible with arrangements when there are ex-spouses and children involved? No arrangements are written in tablets of stone.

LBFseBrom · 17/11/2024 19:25

DearDenimEagle · 17/11/2024 19:17

So the ex can’t be left alone at all without children on Xmas day, but it’s ok for the OP to be alone some of that day ?

She will not be alone! Her parents will be there. Husband and daughter will be there all morning and for lunch. He's not planning to go all day, he'll be back in the evening.

I honestly don't know what the objection is.

ivegoneswimming · 17/11/2024 19:24

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 19:20

I suspect this wouldn’t be acceptable to the OP. She wants everything her way, despite their being a blended family!

Why does OP want everything her way? More like ex does. She just doesn't want her child to go but is quite OK with DH going.

laraitopbanana · 17/11/2024 19:21

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:40

I have also said he is welcome to go to her and see SC if that's what he wants to do (not all day obviously) but I don't want DD going and me just being left at home.

I don't really see why we should have to completely adjust our day because his exes relationship has ended. If he wants DSC still then he should tell her that, not expect us to work around her demands.

That.

spot on.

just maintain that. He can go but DD stays at yours. I understand how he feels but he doesn’t get to “pass on the pain to you”. This is taking the p.

Good luck 🌺

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 19:20

Lemonadeand · 16/11/2024 16:25

If he considered inviting his ex round yours and he wants to bring DD to his ex’s and you don’t want to be alone at all on Christmas Day, then it sounds like you should all pop round to his ex’s for a couple of hours. Weird he hasn’t thought of that solution. Maybe if you suggest it he will realise his other ideas are also quite unreasonable.

I suspect this wouldn’t be acceptable to the OP. She wants everything her way, despite their being a blended family!

DearDenimEagle · 17/11/2024 19:17

DustyLee123 · 16/11/2024 08:40

So let him take your shared child to see their siblings on Xmas day, I can’t see the problem. They wont be gone all day.

Edited

So the ex can’t be left alone at all without children on Xmas day, but it’s ok for the OP to be alone some of that day ?

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 19:15

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 16/11/2024 09:14

Sorry, but why is his all about what you think is acceptable and what you want. You aren't at any point considering his children.

Why can't his ex and kids come for dinner? Surely you cam all be grown ups and get along.

My ex and I have an ok co-parenting relationship. It's not best mate level but we are friendly. He has no family outside of my dsc and our shared dd. It was my Christmas with dd last year. He would have been on his own.

He came to us along with my dsc.

Christmas should be about being nice and kind, bot point scoring and being mean.

Absolutely, but that sort of common sense and kindness is unlikely to fly here 😏

Mumof3confused · 17/11/2024 19:08

As a single mum: she’s being unreasonable. Can’t the children come for Xmas dinner and then go back to her? Surely she can cope for a few hours. It’s about the children, not her.

Thinking2022 · 17/11/2024 19:05

the children need to know they are loved so it is not about the ex nor about you but what is best for the children. If your family are over for the day why not send DH and DD off to see the other children in the morning for a couple of hours?

Completelydonechick · 17/11/2024 19:05

I definitely agree that Christmas Eve could be really special. And that will give everyone a chance to chill on the big day. I always think that Christmas Eve is more magical anyway! You could organise something really lovely that will become a new tradition.

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 19:03

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:01

Has she? Do you know her because OP hasn’t mentioned her extended family situation.

OP did mention this.

PullTheBricksDown · 17/11/2024 19:02

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:01

Has she? Do you know her because OP hasn’t mentioned her extended family situation.

OP said the ex also had family she could see, yes.

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:01

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 19:00

She’s got family she could see too, same as everyone keeps telling OP to

Has she? Do you know her because OP hasn’t mentioned her extended family situation.

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 19:01

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:00

One person’s selfish is another’s heartbroken, lonely and in need of empathy.

Nope, selfish.

PullTheBricksDown · 17/11/2024 19:01

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 18:57

Because the issue is her partner being separated from two of his children for the whole day

OP said she was fine with him going round, to see his older kids, but not with him taking the youngest as she's never been to the house at all and would be there away from her new toys and presents, when her dad will be occupied with his older kids. Not a good experience for her. Not sure why so many posters are happy to make the three year old have a crap afternoon to please dad.

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 19:00

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 18:58

Couple of hours alone knowing your family is coming back is different from being alone and lonely over Christmas dinner and evening.

can’t believe that needs explaining.

She’s got family she could see too, same as everyone keeps telling OP to

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 19:00

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 18:59

The issue is the selfish ex unilaterally changing the
plans because they’ve lost their boyfriend.

One person’s selfish is another’s heartbroken, lonely and in need of empathy.

Mum2EmLuJa · 17/11/2024 19:00

StormingNorman · 17/11/2024 18:49

But if a leap to think the teens don’t care if they see their sibling! Unless of course you’ve spoken to them? I’ll assume you haven’t.

OP’s DC will still be with their dad though.

But they can easily see their siblings xmas eve or boxing day-that’s what the majority of step children will be doing anyway with some of their siblings-like if it my turn for my DD to be with me Xmas day she then see’s her dad and his new children Boxing Day instead-and I know she couldn’t care less about if she didn’t see all her siblings that day-I do know my young children would not prefer or even want to go to a stranger’s house regardless of whether their dad was with them or not versus staying in their own home with their new toys

RosieLeaf · 17/11/2024 18:59

AnnieSnap · 17/11/2024 18:57

Because the issue is her partner being separated from two of his children for the whole day

The issue is the selfish ex unilaterally changing the
plans because they’ve lost their boyfriend.