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To think DH is insane to suggest this

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onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:31

My husband blind sided me with this yesterday. Aibu to think he's insane?

My husband and his ex-gf share two children. They have been separated for 10 years (kids are early teens).

We have been together for 6 years and share a child who is 3.

Husbands ex has been in a relationship for the last 6/7 years. Unfortunately this has just ended.

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Right now, they co parent pretty well and it's relatively calm because DSC can mainly contact us/ their mum by themselves now so not much need for contact but it's by no means been an easy or stress free road. I am glad that we mainly need to have nothing to do with her anymore.

Anyway, due to her relationship ending, ex has said to DH that she'll be keeping the children all of Christmas day as she'll be by herself otherwise. Usually they split the day so one has morning, one has them for dinner and changes each year. It was DHs turn for Christmas dinner this year so he's understandably gutted. She has a habit of thinking decisions are hers to solely make and just informing him of what's happening. He doesn't fight her enough imo on this. They share custody completely equally.

DH has now been saying how Christmas will be rubbish now, won't even feel like Christmas, cant even be bothered with it now blah blah blah. Which I've told him is ridiculous seen as we also have a child so he needs to get a grip for their sake at least!

But anyway, he's just blind sided me yesterday saying that he's going to suggest to his ex that either she comes here for Christmas dinner with DSC (my family usually comes so that will be nice and awkward) or alternatively he wants to take our child to her house to see DSC in the afternoon on Christmas day, leaving me at home without our child on Christmas day.

I don't want either of those and think he's utterly insane for suggesting them. If he wants to see DSC on Christmas he needs to tell ex that her being alone on Xmas day isn't his problem and he wants DSC as previously arranged not expect all of us to adjust our day and me to be without our child to appease her. Imo if he doesn't want to argue with her on it, he should just accept seeing DSC on boxing day instead this year.

Aibu to argue this and say no? If he really wants to drop in to see DSC and can't just wait until boxing day then he can but I don't want our child going or her coming here.

OP posts:
Daleksatemyshed · 16/11/2024 09:09

If your family are coming at Christmas then you wouldn't be alone Op but would they be upset if your DP takes your DC out?
I'd keep in mind that if his EX doesn't meet anyone else she may want her DC every year and this could be an ongoing problem, so the solution has to be one you and your,DP are both comfortable with.

helpfulperson · 16/11/2024 09:07

WhyNotUsehis · 16/11/2024 08:46

So you're okay with him not seeing his DC on Christmas Day, but you object to missing a couple of hours with your joint DC while they go with their father to see their siblings?

I agree with this. You sound like you don't think it's a big deal for him not to see all his children on christmas day. You see the two children he has with his ex wife and the one he has with you as separate but to him they are just all his children.

Princessfluffy · 16/11/2024 09:07

Move your Xmas day to Xmas Eve.
Then for SDC they go to their mums for Xmas day but it's effectively Boxing Day for them.

PullTheBricksDown · 16/11/2024 09:06

LoneStar7 · 16/11/2024 09:06

You’d “have him”? Are you in charge?

No, it's clearly his ex who is in charge

LoneStar7 · 16/11/2024 09:06

healthybychristmas · 16/11/2024 09:04

No don't let your three-year-old go to his ex-wife's house for the afternoon. There's no way I would let that happen. I wouldn't have your husband go there either. I'd have him go and pick up the kids and bring them back for tea and take them back after two or three hours. If she's got them in the morning afternoon and later in the evening then that's fine.

You’d “have him”? Are you in charge?

badmoon23 · 16/11/2024 09:04

There's nothing wrong with him popping to see them for a few hours in the afternoon. It will give you a few hours to decompress after a hectic day. Not sure why he needs to take your the youngest, but if she'd enjoy seeing her siblings I would allow it. If she's not bothered keep her home with you and go for a nice walk or something while he's out.

However I think I the main issue here is his ex thinking she can just change the rules based on her own wants and circumstances. It isn't your problem that she's broken up with her partner and presumably if she hadn't then you wouldn't be having all this change of plan. Your dh really needs to be standing up to her instead of pissing you off on Christmas Day.

healthybychristmas · 16/11/2024 09:04

No don't let your three-year-old go to his ex-wife's house for the afternoon. There's no way I would let that happen. I wouldn't have your husband go there either. I'd have him go and pick up the kids and bring them back for tea and take them back after two or three hours. If she's got them in the morning afternoon and later in the evening then that's fine.

PullTheBricksDown · 16/11/2024 09:04

It's also not thoughtful to propose taking a 3 yo - prime 'magic of Christmas' age - off for part of the day to what is, to them, some random's house. Ex is not her step mum, and I can't imagine she'd rather be with her teenage siblings - who she'll see the next day anyway - and dad, over her mum, grandparents and her new toys to play with in her own home. That's just a selfish bit of this plan from the husband and I'd have none of it

DeepRoseFish · 16/11/2024 09:03

Sounds like my ex husband. Didn’t give a shit about our children together.

Lotsofsnacks · 16/11/2024 09:02

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 08:56

The day is normally split anyway, and this year the ex would have them in the morning and him in the afternoon. Because she's now single she wants them ALL day and changed the rules.

Yes it’s unfair to change the agreement, and he needs to grow a backbone and stand up to her, not changing the usual plans for one person. She can go visit one of her family members/friends while the DC are at yours surely? Does he always give in to her demands? Unfortunately these scenarios often come with blended families.

Attelina · 16/11/2024 09:01

The set up of a shared day was bound to fail at some point. Better to have just done alternate years.

Anyway, this is a man who loves his children and whilst his suggestions aren't great foe you it looks like he's clutching at straws at trying to see his children on Christmas Day.

My suggestion would be, why can't he go and spend a morning at his ex's house to see his children and then come back home for the rest of the day.

That way he sees you and your child first thing to open presents with your child and then he sees his other children.

Gonk123 · 16/11/2024 09:01

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:53

As mentioned, it's not him going I have a problem with. I don't want him to take our child with him.

Put your foot down and tell him that your DD will be going nowhere on Christmas Day. How unsettling for her anyway to go to a strangers house on Christmas Day. She will want to be at home home playing with her new toys etc anyway. It’s a ridiculous idea. I would be fuming.

Pussycat22 · 16/11/2024 08:59

onion88, you can't project your state of mind onto someone else.Be the bigger person here and let husband and child pop round. Get pissed on Buck's Fizz and you won't care. Make sure she doesn't make any more demands though and make your husband be aware of this. You will only get more stressed and hurt and Xmas will be ruined for you. Your husband will think you're wonderful. You can let rip after Xmas if you're still feeling resentful.x

Florafaunafish · 16/11/2024 08:58

ReadWithScepticism · 16/11/2024 08:51

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

His solution parcels out the day so that neither of you are without your child/children for the whole day. Surely that's fair

That would be the case with the normal arrangement too.

LoneStar7 · 16/11/2024 08:57

Honestly I couldn’t be bothered with the utter drama of step/blended families it just sounds so awkward and unpleasant for all concerned.

PullTheBricksDown · 16/11/2024 08:57

ReadWithScepticism · 16/11/2024 08:51

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

His solution parcels out the day so that neither of you are without your child/children for the whole day. Surely that's fair

Not really, as with this solution the ex isn't without her children at all on Christmas Day, whereas OP is because her child gets taken out for the afternoon away from their new presents. It's a worse deal for OP and the youngest child.

Tell him he can go but the youngest stays with you. Can't see her wanting to go or her siblings being bothered - they'll see her the next day. Agree with making Boxing Day the big event with them. It might be better to move away from the swapping on Christmas Day itself anyway as you say.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 08:56

ReadWithScepticism · 16/11/2024 08:51

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

His solution parcels out the day so that neither of you are without your child/children for the whole day. Surely that's fair

The day is normally split anyway, and this year the ex would have them in the morning and him in the afternoon. Because she's now single she wants them ALL day and changed the rules.

LoneStar7 · 16/11/2024 08:54

his lack of apparent spine would drive me bonkers to be fair.

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:54

Or if it's totally fine to be alone for a "few hours" then he can go and get DSC and bring them here for a few hours and then take them back.

OP posts:
MrTiddlesTheCat · 16/11/2024 08:54

Why do people think it's reasonable for the OP to be separated from her child for a few hours so that the ex doesn't have to be separated from hers?

comedycentral · 16/11/2024 08:54

I'd have no problem with him popping around, but not with the little one. How would he feel about picking them up around 6 p.m. on Christmas Day, if allowed, sleeping over, and then having another Christmas Day on Boxing Day?

I can see his upset and I can absolutely understand yours too.

Motomum23 · 16/11/2024 08:53

I can totally see your point - its not even that you might not be ok for a few hours alone - its the principle that in his eyes ex comes first and your feelings second.
It would be perfectly acceptable to suggest I want the kids for a few hours in the afternoon even if its not Xmas Dinner but I'm with you - the arrangements have always been a split Xmas day - can't see ex offering up the kids all day if you and dh split next year! This is a DH problem and he needs to see that if he puts ex first then it will probably be his last Xmas married to you.

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:53

ReadWithScepticism · 16/11/2024 08:51

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

His solution parcels out the day so that neither of you are without your child/children for the whole day. Surely that's fair

As mentioned, it's not him going I have a problem with. I don't want him to take our child with him.

OP posts:
ThePoshUns · 16/11/2024 08:52

If your DD and her siblings get on I think his suggestion he takes her to see them for an hour or so is a reasonable compromise.
I'd quite like an hour on my own on Christmas Day, put my feet up and watch what I want for a change.

Cazziebo · 16/11/2024 08:52

I would love a couple of hours to myself on Christmas Day!