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To think DH is insane to suggest this

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onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:31

My husband blind sided me with this yesterday. Aibu to think he's insane?

My husband and his ex-gf share two children. They have been separated for 10 years (kids are early teens).

We have been together for 6 years and share a child who is 3.

Husbands ex has been in a relationship for the last 6/7 years. Unfortunately this has just ended.

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Right now, they co parent pretty well and it's relatively calm because DSC can mainly contact us/ their mum by themselves now so not much need for contact but it's by no means been an easy or stress free road. I am glad that we mainly need to have nothing to do with her anymore.

Anyway, due to her relationship ending, ex has said to DH that she'll be keeping the children all of Christmas day as she'll be by herself otherwise. Usually they split the day so one has morning, one has them for dinner and changes each year. It was DHs turn for Christmas dinner this year so he's understandably gutted. She has a habit of thinking decisions are hers to solely make and just informing him of what's happening. He doesn't fight her enough imo on this. They share custody completely equally.

DH has now been saying how Christmas will be rubbish now, won't even feel like Christmas, cant even be bothered with it now blah blah blah. Which I've told him is ridiculous seen as we also have a child so he needs to get a grip for their sake at least!

But anyway, he's just blind sided me yesterday saying that he's going to suggest to his ex that either she comes here for Christmas dinner with DSC (my family usually comes so that will be nice and awkward) or alternatively he wants to take our child to her house to see DSC in the afternoon on Christmas day, leaving me at home without our child on Christmas day.

I don't want either of those and think he's utterly insane for suggesting them. If he wants to see DSC on Christmas he needs to tell ex that her being alone on Xmas day isn't his problem and he wants DSC as previously arranged not expect all of us to adjust our day and me to be without our child to appease her. Imo if he doesn't want to argue with her on it, he should just accept seeing DSC on boxing day instead this year.

Aibu to argue this and say no? If he really wants to drop in to see DSC and can't just wait until boxing day then he can but I don't want our child going or her coming here.

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 16/11/2024 09:39

MrTiddlesTheCat · 16/11/2024 08:54

Why do people think it's reasonable for the OP to be separated from her child for a few hours so that the ex doesn't have to be separated from hers?

Because exes like this weaponise their children to get their own way. It's the turn of their father to have them for Christmas dinner, she should honour that arrangement.

Wishicouldnotcare · 16/11/2024 09:39

I totally agree with you OP.

The original arrangements should stand.

It's unfortunate her relationship has ended but I don't see why it gives her the right to start changing things just to suit her.

I think your DH's reaction was very hurtful. Hopefully it was a heat of the moment reaction and when he has calmed down you can have a reasonable conversation.

I don't see why he should be happy to spoil your Christmas and your DD's Christmas just to accommodate a totally unreasonable demand by his ex.

CowTown · 16/11/2024 09:38

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:43

I honestly think DSC wouldn't be too bothered. More likely to be bothered that they will have to wait until the next day to get their presents from us than anything else. Imo, it's always been a bit stressful for DSC changing on the actual day rather than one has full Xmas day, one has boxing day and swapping but it's obviously not up to me.

Our child is more likely to be upset at having to leave home than wanting to go with DH.

Does DC often hang out at XW’s home? Is this a familiar environment?

BarbaraHoward · 16/11/2024 09:38

DeepRoseFish · 16/11/2024 09:03

Sounds like my ex husband. Didn’t give a shit about our children together.

If he didn't give a shit about their shared DC, he wouldn't be proposing to bring her and all her three year old chaos with him.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/11/2024 09:38

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:40

I have also said he is welcome to go to her and see SC if that's what he wants to do (not all day obviously) but I don't want DD going and me just being left at home.

I don't really see why we should have to completely adjust our day because his exes relationship has ended. If he wants DSC still then he should tell her that, not expect us to work around her demands.

Doesn't work like that - she's only just split with her DP and is likely raw. You haven't

LoneStar7 · 16/11/2024 09:37

Maybe it’s an excuse and the teenagers don’t want to split the day this year 😕

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 09:37

Redlorryyellowcar · 16/11/2024 09:32

Personally I’d be really impressed your husband is kind with high EQ.

I’d plan to do something for for those 2 hours in the afternoon while he goes to her house. Have a bath, watch a film, have a nap! Do some nice cooking. Anything, read a book.

I think you are wanting to be stubborn for all the wrong reasons

God your standards are low.

Man agrees to something he doesn't want.

Man then expects woman to do something she doesn't want, because he fucked up.

Man is being dismissive of shared child together, her importance and her needs.

You: it's fineeee, he's sooo great, just have a bath!

Confused
user1492757084 · 16/11/2024 09:35

I think your husband should be kind and allow a one off (and make it clear that it is a one off) that his ex has the children all Christmas Day this year.
Insist that you have the DSC over for an evening meal on Christmas Eve and to open presents and that they come back again for Boxing Day afternoon.

Alternatively, your DH should just say NO to his ex but you both could extend an invitation to her to spend the middle of Christmas Day and have lunch at your home (again as a one off).

If could be a new way that offers your DSC a serene day where their parents can be civil in the same space for an hour or two. Good practice for when they graduate or get married.

JudgeJ · 16/11/2024 09:35

Notsuchafattynow · 16/11/2024 08:33

Don't blame you.

Can you suggest some alternatives that are a better compromise. You get them boxing day instead? Take them out for tea Xmas Eve?

If the arrangements for Christmas have been formally agreed then he should insist that they come to you, if she's on her own that's tough but not your problem.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 09:34

ChefsKisser · 16/11/2024 09:30

Seems like a solution where the ex gets what she wants.

see it would see it as a compromise. And a dare say if you are in a ‘blended’ family a level of compromise is needed. I get it if the SC mum is a nightmare all the time but if the friction and difficulty has been both ways, which is more often is, I would try and be accommodating. Keep the visit short, use the time for yourself or to prep for your family coming.

It's not a compromise when only one person gets what they want, and everyone else is bending backwards to accommodate it.

RosieLeaf · 16/11/2024 09:33

ChefsKisser · 16/11/2024 09:30

Seems like a solution where the ex gets what she wants.

see it would see it as a compromise. And a dare say if you are in a ‘blended’ family a level of compromise is needed. I get it if the SC mum is a nightmare all the time but if the friction and difficulty has been both ways, which is more often is, I would try and be accommodating. Keep the visit short, use the time for yourself or to prep for your family coming.

What is the ex compromising?

Redlorryyellowcar · 16/11/2024 09:32

Personally I’d be really impressed your husband is kind with high EQ.

I’d plan to do something for for those 2 hours in the afternoon while he goes to her house. Have a bath, watch a film, have a nap! Do some nice cooking. Anything, read a book.

I think you are wanting to be stubborn for all the wrong reasons

WellitsAstarte · 16/11/2024 09:32

AnneLovesGilbert · 16/11/2024 09:19

The idea that her break up is suddenly yours or your DD’s problem 🙄

He’s being completely ridiculous, as are the posters suggesting your Christmas is compromised to pander to his bullshit. He had no business having another child if he’s going to continue to prioritise his ex over them and his wife. No to him taking DD, no to his inviting her over.

Completely agree.
I find it worrying that a parent would be using their own children as an emotional crutch because their relationship has broken down. Especially when they seemingly agreed to the ‘sharing’ of the children previously.
I would expect my partner to protect his kids by making sure their mother’s relationship status has no effect on them.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 16/11/2024 09:32

Makes you wonder who are the adults and who are the children here.
Christmas goes on as normal. Ex thinks she’ll be sad because she’ll be alone half the day? Tough. You suck it up and smile for the kids sake.
Been there , done that for several Christmasses. She puts her feet up, watches a movie.
Don’t try to make it artificially cheerful shoving you all together or what is really weird taking your 3 year old to ex’s house.
Time your HH and his ex grew up.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 09:31

ChristmasFluff · 16/11/2024 09:27

I'd go for inviting them all for Christmas lunch, especially as my own family would be there too. She'll probably decline anyway, but you've shown willing. And if she does come, it will be time-limited and doesn't need to be awkward - could be quite the party atmosphere. If she causes an atmosphere it will be her who loks bad.

Did you miss this part of the OP?

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 16/11/2024 09:31

Attelina · 16/11/2024 09:01

The set up of a shared day was bound to fail at some point. Better to have just done alternate years.

Anyway, this is a man who loves his children and whilst his suggestions aren't great foe you it looks like he's clutching at straws at trying to see his children on Christmas Day.

My suggestion would be, why can't he go and spend a morning at his ex's house to see his children and then come back home for the rest of the day.

That way he sees you and your child first thing to open presents with your child and then he sees his other children.

This is the most sensible solution.
Your DH also owes you an apology

RosieLeaf · 16/11/2024 09:31

SqueamishHamish · 16/11/2024 09:30

Let him take your child over in the afternoon for a little visit. Sounds like a nice chance for a break for you maybe? I can't see a big problem with that at all. Remember the ex is probably not in a good place right now.

Why does the place the ex is in have to negatively affect OP’s Christmas Day? She’s out of order to change the plans one-sidedly

aodirjjd · 16/11/2024 09:31

I think if the kids are teens they can vote with their feet surely? Ask them if they want the usual split or would rather spend the full day with mum and see you Boxing Day.

chances are they find changing places mid day disruptive and would probably prefer to stay in one place.

ChefsKisser · 16/11/2024 09:30

Seems like a solution where the ex gets what she wants.

see it would see it as a compromise. And a dare say if you are in a ‘blended’ family a level of compromise is needed. I get it if the SC mum is a nightmare all the time but if the friction and difficulty has been both ways, which is more often is, I would try and be accommodating. Keep the visit short, use the time for yourself or to prep for your family coming.

oopsupsideyourheadisayoopsupsideypurhead · 16/11/2024 09:30

Her relationship ended. Her problem. The arrangements for the DSC shouldn't change because of that.

SqueamishHamish · 16/11/2024 09:30

Let him take your child over in the afternoon for a little visit. Sounds like a nice chance for a break for you maybe? I can't see a big problem with that at all. Remember the ex is probably not in a good place right now.

Boomer55 · 16/11/2024 09:28

DustyLee123 · 16/11/2024 08:40

So let him take your shared child to see their siblings on Xmas day, I can’t see the problem. They wont be gone all day.

Edited

This is sensible. Just have a couple of hours to chill on your own while they are out.👍

Whatsitreallylike · 16/11/2024 09:27

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:40

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

This goes both ways though doesn’t it. If your happy with the ex being on her own at Christmas then why wouldn’t you want to be on your own?
But you don’t want that because you know it would suck. A compromise where the adults can be civil for a couple of hours for the sake of the kids is the least objectionable in my opinion.

ChristmasFluff · 16/11/2024 09:27

I'd go for inviting them all for Christmas lunch, especially as my own family would be there too. She'll probably decline anyway, but you've shown willing. And if she does come, it will be time-limited and doesn't need to be awkward - could be quite the party atmosphere. If she causes an atmosphere it will be her who loks bad.

AnneLovesGilbert · 16/11/2024 09:25

HaPPy8 · 16/11/2024 09:23

Why can’t you go too?

She doesn’t want to.