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To think DH is insane to suggest this

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onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:31

My husband blind sided me with this yesterday. Aibu to think he's insane?

My husband and his ex-gf share two children. They have been separated for 10 years (kids are early teens).

We have been together for 6 years and share a child who is 3.

Husbands ex has been in a relationship for the last 6/7 years. Unfortunately this has just ended.

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Right now, they co parent pretty well and it's relatively calm because DSC can mainly contact us/ their mum by themselves now so not much need for contact but it's by no means been an easy or stress free road. I am glad that we mainly need to have nothing to do with her anymore.

Anyway, due to her relationship ending, ex has said to DH that she'll be keeping the children all of Christmas day as she'll be by herself otherwise. Usually they split the day so one has morning, one has them for dinner and changes each year. It was DHs turn for Christmas dinner this year so he's understandably gutted. She has a habit of thinking decisions are hers to solely make and just informing him of what's happening. He doesn't fight her enough imo on this. They share custody completely equally.

DH has now been saying how Christmas will be rubbish now, won't even feel like Christmas, cant even be bothered with it now blah blah blah. Which I've told him is ridiculous seen as we also have a child so he needs to get a grip for their sake at least!

But anyway, he's just blind sided me yesterday saying that he's going to suggest to his ex that either she comes here for Christmas dinner with DSC (my family usually comes so that will be nice and awkward) or alternatively he wants to take our child to her house to see DSC in the afternoon on Christmas day, leaving me at home without our child on Christmas day.

I don't want either of those and think he's utterly insane for suggesting them. If he wants to see DSC on Christmas he needs to tell ex that her being alone on Xmas day isn't his problem and he wants DSC as previously arranged not expect all of us to adjust our day and me to be without our child to appease her. Imo if he doesn't want to argue with her on it, he should just accept seeing DSC on boxing day instead this year.

Aibu to argue this and say no? If he really wants to drop in to see DSC and can't just wait until boxing day then he can but I don't want our child going or her coming here.

OP posts:
Didimum · 16/11/2024 10:22

Commonsense22 · 16/11/2024 10:20

I'm.really confused as to why everyone is prioritising the husband's want to see siblings together. He was the one who created a complex family. He lives with the consequences.
Those are: he doesn't get to see children together on Christmas day. It's really simple.

The OP stays with her dd. The ex with her kids.

OP also created a complex family.

Lifesd · 16/11/2024 10:21

Really - your 3 year old would kick off about seeing her presumably much loved siblings on Christmas Day? Quite a projection - I can see your step DC are a huge inconvenience to you but maybe not to your daughter.

Commonsense22 · 16/11/2024 10:20

I'm.really confused as to why everyone is prioritising the husband's want to see siblings together. He was the one who created a complex family. He lives with the consequences.
Those are: he doesn't get to see children together on Christmas day. It's really simple.

The OP stays with her dd. The ex with her kids.

OchAyeTheN00 · 16/11/2024 10:20

OP I completely agree with you.

every single word and follow up post.

Nothatgingerpirate · 16/11/2024 10:18

Bollocks. What's the point? Deleted.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 16/11/2024 10:18

If your family arrive later in the day could you invite ex and SDC for dinner or even brunch then they go off before your family get there?

Didimum · 16/11/2024 10:18

rainbowstardrops · 16/11/2024 10:06

OP, I think you’re beginning to sound a little petulant here. Neither are insane suggestions, they are options. I think it’s best for children if their adults can put their feelings aside and be seen to be doing their best for them.

Yes, it would be best if the ex put her feelings aside and did what was best for her children - so they go to their dad's as per the arrangement!

Why is it ‘best’ simply because it’s pre-arranged? It is beneficial for children to see their separated parents spending amicable time together for their benefit. Older children will also care much more about leaving a lonely parent at home by themselves.

kittybiscuits · 16/11/2024 10:17

PurebredRacingUnicorn · 16/11/2024 10:17

Contrary to common belief, you will not turn into a pumpkin if you have to spend a couple of hours on your own on 25 December.

Nor will the ex!

Hallllllllie · 16/11/2024 10:17

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:38

I said this to him, I understand being upset you aren't seeing all your children on christmas day. To be fair I can't imagine not seeing DD on Christmas.

But he does have another child who'll be here and I feel quite pissed off for her sake that DHs Christmas is rubbish and ruined now because SC won't be here, no consideration of the fact that she will be.

I think you are being daft saying this though, they are not his DSC. Would you feel the same if it was your kids and you were only seeing 1 of them? He needs to either stand up to her and tell her no, or I don't see a problem in him taking your child there for a bit on Xmas day.

PurebredRacingUnicorn · 16/11/2024 10:17

Contrary to common belief, you will not turn into a pumpkin if you have to spend a couple of hours on your own on 25 December.

Technonan · 16/11/2024 10:15

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:40

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

But you will have your family there. In this situation, someone has to be the bigger person. Two hours while your DD sees her siblings on Christmas Day isn't a massive amount of time. It will give you a bit of space to put your feet up and chill.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 16/11/2024 10:14

@Whyherewego Which is why I suggested alternating the days. But OP won't do that.

Commonsense22 · 16/11/2024 10:13

I must admit I don't at all see the necessity for the husband to see all his children together. He visits his children for a while. Taking the youngest is not OK, of course the OP should not be separated from her dd on Christmas day. And of course, the ex should not be invited.

VivianLea · 16/11/2024 10:12

I think that either ex comes over for dinner or DH pops round to see them Christmas morning makes perfect sense, either with your DD or by himself.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 16/11/2024 10:10

BarbaraHoward · 16/11/2024 08:39

Suggesting the ex comes to you for the full day is too high pressure.

But him going around with your shared DC for an hour or two is a perfectly sensible suggestion. It means all children get to see their parents on the day.

I'm sure you'll be fine for an hour or two by yourself, or he can go while your family is there.

I wouldn’t be fine with this and OP says she wouldn’t be fine with this.

The ex is only having a strop about it because she’s newly single otherwise she wouldn’t be bothered.

I think in your case OP, I’d grit my teeth and have her and DSC on Christmas Day. State to your DH that if she’s rude or nasty on the day that she leaves.

Whyherewego · 16/11/2024 10:09

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 16/11/2024 10:03

My boys are 14 and 17 and when they come home to do our Christmas Day on Boxing Day, playing with their 4 yo sister's toys is genuinely a highlight of their day!!
My 14 yo has bought her a race track toy for Christmas... he's going to be living his best life playing it with her! 😆

Edited

Yes but that won't be happening. What dH is suggesting is that the 3 year old is brought to a stranger's house for a few hours to spend some time with her half sibs. There won't be any new Xmas toys there for the 3 year old and nor will there be other toys for her.

Fluffington9 · 16/11/2024 10:09

Hi OP I’m a step mum and I’d not like that but also my DH would not suggest it. There are other solutions than that! Conversely a family member had the ex wife of her partner inappropriately involved IMO - she was invited to every family event still and she moved onto the same fucking street!!!! She was still pally with the ex sis in law who also lived on that street. Don’t think it was malicious think she wanted to remain involved but found this inappropriate and boundary crossing on a lot of levels and disrespectful to my family member.

Would you and your DH be open to the following?: We have two Christmases for the kids, the first Christmas is at their Mum’s Xmas day and they come to us late evening and second Christmas is on Boxing Day. It still has the Christmas feel.

BlueMum16 · 16/11/2024 10:08

onion88 · 16/11/2024 09:48

You presumably knew what the set up with his ex was like when you had dd/decided to get married?

Yes.. the set up was that they alternated mid Christmas day. Not that I'd have to spend hours without DD on Christmas day so his ex didn't have to. That was never the set up or the agreement.

I appreciate posters are saying well if it's fine for her it's fine for you. But at the end of day, I am not separated from my child's father. I don't have an agreement to alternate Christmas. I shouldn't have to not see my child, who's father I am still with, on Christmas day so his ex can reneg on their agreed arrangement.

This is a conversation DP needs to have with exP and agree Xmas like adults. If he wants to see the kids he needs to sort it.

I agree with OP my 3 yrd old DD would not be going to a stranger house on Christmas day to see half older siblings.

I would have no issue with the DP nipping to see his children for an hour and then whole family can be together the day before/after.

They are not together as a family unit. You are. You are not stopping him from seeing his DC his exP is.

The OP is not saying the any child cannot see their parent. DP just need to sort it so it works for all children and all 3 adults

Whaleandsnail6 · 16/11/2024 10:07

The ex is being unreasonable. She shouldnt just get to decide the plans change to suit her.

Your husband should tell her that the kids are still coming to you as planned, although I would be worried that they are of an age where she can guilt trip them into not wanting to ve by saying she will be sad and alone.

You need a conversation with your husband about how your plans should bit change to suit her

Disturbia81 · 16/11/2024 10:07

I think this is what you need to expect when you get together with someone who already has kids. It could be nice for your kids to see you all getting on.
Like it or not many exes are connected together for life and still love and care about them (platonically)

adviceneeded1990 · 16/11/2024 10:06

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 16/11/2024 10:03

My boys are 14 and 17 and when they come home to do our Christmas Day on Boxing Day, playing with their 4 yo sister's toys is genuinely a highlight of their day!!
My 14 yo has bought her a race track toy for Christmas... he's going to be living his best life playing it with her! 😆

Edited

My DSD is the same! Our niece is two and DSD makes out she’s cool and it’s “to entertain her” but she has more fun with the toddler toys than her own gifts sometimes 😂 it’s nice that they can relax and enjoy things that people might think they are too old for!

rainbowstardrops · 16/11/2024 10:06

OP, I think you’re beginning to sound a little petulant here. Neither are insane suggestions, they are options. I think it’s best for children if their adults can put their feelings aside and be seen to be doing their best for them.

Yes, it would be best if the ex put her feelings aside and did what was best for her children - so they go to their dad's as per the arrangement!

HouseFullOfChaos · 16/11/2024 10:04

So he wants to go and play happy families with his ex, their shared children and your child too? While you stay home alone waiting for your side of the family to arrive and for him to bring your child home? Absolutely not. What is he thinking suggesting that!

Didimum · 16/11/2024 10:03

MissUltraViolet · 16/11/2024 09:54

Why are so many people all for OP having to spend some of her Xmas day without her child so her husbands ex doesn't have to spend any of her day without her children?

Fucking madness this place.

I think it’s different because the ex is newly single after a long-term relationship breakdown and Christmas can be an exceptionally lonely and difficult time during those circumstances. Her children are also getting older and I wouldn’t be surprised if fact she has finite Christmases with them isn’t playing a role.

The OP, on the other hand is happily married with a young family unit. I would expect her feelings surrounding Christmas Day to be a little more robust. In fact they have to be more robust because she married someone with other children to accommodate.

OP, I think you’re beginning to sound a little petulant here. Neither are insane suggestions, they are options. I think it’s best for children if their adults can put their feelings aside and be seen to be doing their best for them. You just don’t like her, but you need to take your emotions out of this.

You may not be the one separated from your child’s father, but you are married to the father who is separated from his children’s mother, so it affects you no matter what.

rainbowstardrops · 16/11/2024 10:03

MissUltraViolet · 16/11/2024 09:54

Why are so many people all for OP having to spend some of her Xmas day without her child so her husbands ex doesn't have to spend any of her day without her children?

Fucking madness this place.

Quite