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To think DH is insane to suggest this

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onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:31

My husband blind sided me with this yesterday. Aibu to think he's insane?

My husband and his ex-gf share two children. They have been separated for 10 years (kids are early teens).

We have been together for 6 years and share a child who is 3.

Husbands ex has been in a relationship for the last 6/7 years. Unfortunately this has just ended.

I need to add that they have not always gotten along, DH and ex. There were some really awful times, abusive messages, difficulties agreeing to contact schedules, being awful about me etc... I rarely say more than the odd hello to her.

Right now, they co parent pretty well and it's relatively calm because DSC can mainly contact us/ their mum by themselves now so not much need for contact but it's by no means been an easy or stress free road. I am glad that we mainly need to have nothing to do with her anymore.

Anyway, due to her relationship ending, ex has said to DH that she'll be keeping the children all of Christmas day as she'll be by herself otherwise. Usually they split the day so one has morning, one has them for dinner and changes each year. It was DHs turn for Christmas dinner this year so he's understandably gutted. She has a habit of thinking decisions are hers to solely make and just informing him of what's happening. He doesn't fight her enough imo on this. They share custody completely equally.

DH has now been saying how Christmas will be rubbish now, won't even feel like Christmas, cant even be bothered with it now blah blah blah. Which I've told him is ridiculous seen as we also have a child so he needs to get a grip for their sake at least!

But anyway, he's just blind sided me yesterday saying that he's going to suggest to his ex that either she comes here for Christmas dinner with DSC (my family usually comes so that will be nice and awkward) or alternatively he wants to take our child to her house to see DSC in the afternoon on Christmas day, leaving me at home without our child on Christmas day.

I don't want either of those and think he's utterly insane for suggesting them. If he wants to see DSC on Christmas he needs to tell ex that her being alone on Xmas day isn't his problem and he wants DSC as previously arranged not expect all of us to adjust our day and me to be without our child to appease her. Imo if he doesn't want to argue with her on it, he should just accept seeing DSC on boxing day instead this year.

Aibu to argue this and say no? If he really wants to drop in to see DSC and can't just wait until boxing day then he can but I don't want our child going or her coming here.

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AutumnLeaves24 · 16/11/2024 11:24

HaPPy8 · 16/11/2024 08:46

I think he trying to do his best. Him popping there for a bit with your child would probably be my first choice but I’d make either work.

No, his best would look like telling his ex, she's a grown woman who can spend half a day on her own or see other people & they're splitting the days as usual. Not upsetting his wife, child, in-laws etc.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 16/11/2024 11:23

@ParkAndRider Agree, but that's only going to be fair if they agree to alternate it so the mum gets them every other Christmas Day for the duration. OP hasn't responded if she would find that acceptable.

Devonshiregal · 16/11/2024 11:21

BarbaraHoward · 16/11/2024 08:39

Suggesting the ex comes to you for the full day is too high pressure.

But him going around with your shared DC for an hour or two is a perfectly sensible suggestion. It means all children get to see their parents on the day.

I'm sure you'll be fine for an hour or two by yourself, or he can go while your family is there.

Why should SHE (op) be by herself?! She’s his wife. His ex can find someone else to play with while her kids are at their dad’s (as previously agreed!) If he wanted to spend Christmas with his ex then he should have stayed with her not married someone else.

op has no issue with the step children coming to her house to see their sibling and dad, but the ex had been a cow to her so she doesn’t fancy spending her Christmas Day hosting her - bloody fair enough. So there is no need for her child to be taken away from her on Christmas Day to visit the step children at their mothers? This doesn’t even make sense?! How is it sensible?

why would the op’s kid want to go visit their siblings at the ex wife’s house?? They’ll want to spend Christmas with THEIR mum not a virtual stranger.

op honestly your husband is being an utter dick. His Christmas is not ruined. He puts you second best and you need to slam your foot down right now or she’ll be dragging him around all over the place making him jump through hoops and he’ll go along with it and try to paint you as the bad guy.

or get rid. Might be better off.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 11:20

TheMotherShipAhoy · 16/11/2024 11:15

I think your DH is kind and generous to suggest inviting his ex to yours. It would only be awkward if someone decided to make it awkward, for which there's obviously need. It'll be in your home with your parents, so you're not in some kind of underdog position. It would be a very gracious thing to do, and your DH knows it.

Is he fuck. He's a weak twat that is only thinking about what HE wants. The relationship might be civil, but it is fraught.

Did he even stop to think if the ex would want to see him playing happy families with his wife, their child and the SDC's while she's going through a breakup?

Did he stop to think that his wife might not want to be around someone who bad mouthed her , was awful to and about her and have to suck it up and play gracious host?

He's not kind and generous, he's a selfish twat who fucked up and wants things his way.

StormingNorman · 16/11/2024 11:20

HouseFullOfChaos · 16/11/2024 10:04

So he wants to go and play happy families with his ex, their shared children and your child too? While you stay home alone waiting for your side of the family to arrive and for him to bring your child home? Absolutely not. What is he thinking suggesting that!

I didn’t interpret it as DH wanting to play happy families. More like putting up with the ex so he can see his children all together on Christmas Day.

I hope the OP knows he wouldn’t be going there by choice. This is a desperate measure, a last ditch attempt to get his all his kids around him.

AutumnLeaves24 · 16/11/2024 11:18

Notsuchafattynow · 16/11/2024 08:33

Don't blame you.

Can you suggest some alternatives that are a better compromise. You get them boxing day instead? Take them out for tea Xmas Eve?

Why should he spoil everyone Christmas, just because she's now single?

shes a grown woman for crying out loud!

AutumnLeaves24 · 16/11/2024 11:15

Slugg · 16/11/2024 08:36

What do the DSC want to do?

Unilaterally inviting her to yours is unfair on you if you’re not comfortable.

It’s understandable that DH is gutted though. I think I’d try to find something that works for you all without a fight. Maybe have your family Christmas on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day.

@Slugg
why change all their Christmas plans for a grown woman who doesn't want to spend half of Christmas Day on her own. If she's that wet, she can arrange to visit family or friends.

TheMotherShipAhoy · 16/11/2024 11:15

I think your DH is kind and generous to suggest inviting his ex to yours. It would only be awkward if someone decided to make it awkward, for which there's obviously need. It'll be in your home with your parents, so you're not in some kind of underdog position. It would be a very gracious thing to do, and your DH knows it.

rainbowstardrops · 16/11/2024 11:15

*For the love of god. Why does OP need to be the one who 'misses out' here and be the bigger person?

There is no reason why EX cannot be alone for the time that DSC are with their dad and their sister and their step mum.

The EX was not going to spend this time her children anyway. Just because she now doesn't have a partner, why should the OP be alone... without her child? And husband.. and step children...*

I don't get it either!
The only one who won't be affected here is the ex who's changed the rules of the game!

ParkAndRider · 16/11/2024 11:12

It's crazy the fixation people have with having to see certain people on Christmas Day. It won't matter if he had them Boxing Day this year. I'm with you OP stand your ground. It's the ex who has changed the rules and no way would I have him taking my child over there because of that.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/11/2024 11:12

Technonan · 16/11/2024 10:15

But you will have your family there. In this situation, someone has to be the bigger person. Two hours while your DD sees her siblings on Christmas Day isn't a massive amount of time. It will give you a bit of space to put your feet up and chill.

OP's family don't come until later in the day.

OP's DH will see their shared DD open her presents. He can then visit his ex-wife's home and spend a couple of hours with his older children. There will be no presents for his DD to open at his ex's home and no suitable toys for her to play with. OP also thinks that she won't want to leave her mum to travel to her dad's ex's house (OP's DD doesn't know her dad's ex at all).

It doesn't make sense for OP's DH to take his daughter to visit her half siblings, leaving OP on her own. OP's DH will see all of his children on Christmas Day.

lateatwork · 16/11/2024 11:11

Didimum · 16/11/2024 10:18

Why is it ‘best’ simply because it’s pre-arranged? It is beneficial for children to see their separated parents spending amicable time together for their benefit. Older children will also care much more about leaving a lonely parent at home by themselves.

It's up to the mum to prioritise the children and encourage the relationship with the dad- not make them feel guilty leaving her for a couple of hours why they see their dad, sister and stepmum

mindutopia · 16/11/2024 11:11

Your dh just needs to raise with this ex the question of visiting his dc on Christmas and see how they all feel about it.

Personally, if I had just been through a breakup, I can’t imagine wanting my other ex popping in for Christmas at mine. Even if it’s just for a few hours. I definitely wouldn’t be wanting to have to entertain his overtired 3 year old who could probably do with a post Christmas nap. And surely if Dh actually wants to spend time with his kids, the best way to do it is not with a grumpy toddler in tow.

Yes, sounds fine to float the question (ex may say no), but he should leave your 3 year old at home and actually spend time with his teens for a bit so they get his full attention.

Nanny0gg · 16/11/2024 11:09

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:53

As mentioned, it's not him going I have a problem with. I don't want him to take our child with him.

But you won't be on your own, you'll have your family there won't you?

So a couple of hours won't hurt

Blueblell · 16/11/2024 11:09

I know it’s not the point of your post but I am surprised teenagers want to split the day every year. If it hasn’t already happened they will eventually want to get up late ect. Maybe it is time to suggest a different formula, like alternate Boxing Day. Have Christmas Day on Boxing Day with presents given then.

It is probably the kids that don’t want to leave their Mum alone on Christmas Day.

I would let DH go and see them. You might enjoy a few hours on your own - I would!

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 16/11/2024 11:09

onion88 · 16/11/2024 09:42

Ex also has family so why she can't possibly spend the day with them I don't know.

There is history as mentioned in my OP of her just unilaterally deciding something and in her mind DH having to like it or lump it. She believes all decisions like this are hers solely to make, she always has.

Why can’t his ex spend time with her family if she has them? So she’s not all alone is she?

Sounds as though she’s having a bit of a strop from this update and wants your DH to dance to her tune.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 11:08

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 16/11/2024 11:03

I wouldn’t object to him going over to see his kids for a while, leaving your Dc with you to spend time with you and their grandparents.

I know there is ‘history’ colouring your feelings here but I would have some regard for her feeling bereft this year. If not her unilateral decision making style.

OP isn't either. She's ok with that. What she objects to is him taking the little one along for the visit.

Winter41 · 16/11/2024 11:08

I don't think being on your own for a couple of hours is a big deal. The last couple of years my husband has popped out with our kids to see his dad on Xmas day while I get the Christmas dinner on. It's worked quite nicely, meant his dad (who is too set in his ways to come to us for the day) gets a Xmas visit and to be honest a couple of hours of peace to sip cava and get the dinner on alone is quite nice.

BlueSilverCats · 16/11/2024 11:06

LBFseBrom · 16/11/2024 11:03

Why can they not come to yours on Boxing Day?

They probably can. OP's husband wants to see them on the day. He wants his cake and eat it too.

ivegoneswimming · 16/11/2024 11:06

I think the little one would rather stay with their Mum and Grandparents in their own home with new toys.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 16/11/2024 11:05

I absolutely wouldn’t want her at the dinner table so I agree with you there.

Tje rest of it, it would depend. If it was to pop over late afternoon for an hour or so with my child in tow I’d probably be okay as it would give me a chance to tidy up a bit or sit down and relax. If it was to disappear for four hours I’d be irritated. Plus it depends on the age of the child. If they were very young I’d have been concerned they might not be adequately supervised if the dad was so caught up in second family politics and Disney dadding.

Imfreetofeelgood · 16/11/2024 11:05

onion88 · 16/11/2024 08:40

If I'm okay by myself then surely so is his ex?

I think I'd let him take your DD to visit for a couple of hours. Be the bigger person. Do your family stay long enough to still have lots of time with DD? Edited for typos

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 16/11/2024 11:03

I wouldn’t object to him going over to see his kids for a while, leaving your Dc with you to spend time with you and their grandparents.

I know there is ‘history’ colouring your feelings here but I would have some regard for her feeling bereft this year. If not her unilateral decision making style.

LBFseBrom · 16/11/2024 11:03

Why can they not come to yours on Boxing Day?

Ophy83 · 16/11/2024 11:01

DustyLee123 · 16/11/2024 08:40

So let him take your shared child to see their siblings on Xmas day, I can’t see the problem. They wont be gone all day.

Edited

The problem is that, in order to avoid his ex being left alone on Christmas day for a couple of hours, he is willing to put OP in that position.

Could she not drop the kids around to yours for a couple of hours while she is cooking and then come collect them to take them back to hers for dinner?