New workmate smells awful

The second case

They wanted me (and others before me-i was warned afterwards) that they had a thing for threesomes apparently and her flashing was meant to turn you on!

I'm not being a nasty bitch,but
A-im not gay (nothing against anyone who is-i have 3 children who are)
B-she was a plus size lady and she smelt (and not just down there) as she didn't wash properly if at all
C-he fucking reaked-you would smell him coming if he came to pick up the kids

(he once walked past me and dd was stood next to me-i thought it was her and had a word in her ear-she was bloody annoyed when it turned out not to be her!we had this agreement that if either of us ponged,the other would say something quietly)

How they thought they'd get anyone into their bed,I do not know!

I once had to use their loo (never again) and their bedroom smelt exactly like they did so they can't have been washing their clothes/bedding/towels either

The first one-no,he'd just had his first baby (or his wife had just given birth to their first baby!)

He was struggling as bubs was one of those nightmare babies and he was just about holding his wife together (full sympathy as I had one of those babies myself) and had neglected himself-he had full access to a shower,soap/shampoo and a washer but temporarily,these things had slid down the list of priorities (which is fair enough) but the problem was solved with a bit of understanding and support

He's a lovely bloke (ive heard cheers when its revealed hes on shift) and I did feel for him

@coxesorangepippin

If she had used a phone, you could tell when you picked it up

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This. The staff need to push him or her to address it.

I worked with a woman whose teeth were medievally bad

Her entire mouth was rotting

If she had used a phone, you could tell when you picked it up

If she was in the office, you could tell before you saw her

It was absolutely awful and permeated the entire place

I wouldn’t want to be the manager in that situation…

Has she passed her probation period??

Your first case is a good example of why this needs to be handled delicately, by one person (her manager) - asking questions to understand if there's some reason outside her control which is contributing to her BO e.g. maybe she's living in sub-standard accommodation with poor or non-working bathroom facilities?
The second case you quote has left me absolutely speechless - apart from one word - Eeeuuuuuwwwwwwwwww!!! 😱😷

@MumsGoneToYonderLand Cooking oil??
My goodness. I wonder what on earth possessed her to think it was a good idea to use that. The mind boggles.....

Offer to speak to her with your boss together. It may make it easier, and you could suggest it may be a medical issue.

Just to point out though, you say she is very young but also that she is in her thirties so may well be a peri thing if she's mid/late thirties. I hate that everything gets put down to peri but it's certainly a possibility.

I worked with a lovely bloke who didn't smell at all
He moved up to being a manager and around that time he stank
You could smell it outside after he'd gone home
We all just looked at the top manager to say something but he refused (he was a useless knob who just wanted the glory and none of the work)
Top manager left and someone had a word
Turns out,they'd just had a baby and his shower routine had gone from everyday to once a week and not washing his uniform between shifts (we work with food-you need to wash uniform after every shift not once a week!)
He went back to once a day and he smells of nothing again

Another bloke we knew from school reeked
He smelt of wee,bo,weed and animal poo
His wife would sit with no knickers on and flash you-giving you a strong whiff of 'herself' (and that smell was strong)
I know people had endless words over the years and they didn't listen
So I ended up ghosting them

Some people just don't care

Wow, that's astonishing! Where on earth did she get the idea that cooking oil would make a good in-shower moisturiser?! 😱 Her parents really failed her and it makes you wonder what life was like in her family home when she was growing up, poor young woman. 😔

I had a live-in nanny once with terrible body odor. Like rancid oil and goats with to notes of sweat and fustiness Even when her hair was wet and freshly showered she still smelt. I had to speak to her about it, which was stressful and excruciating. I was so apologetic for raising this personal issue. Her reaction and response: she was so relieved the chat was only about body odor as she had thought I was going to complain about her abilities! We talked about washing clothes more, using clean towels and using deodorant and she said she was glad I had brought it up as her parents had never helped her understand personal
hygiene requirements! Anyway, the smell got about 30% better so just bearable. When she left my employment I actually had to throw all the towels away as they were in fact saturated and stiff with rancid fat. In her shower cubicle I found a gallon bottle of cooking oil which she was using as an in shower moisturizer. It smelt rancid! It explained a lot. I felt sorry for her but mainly was just glad we parted ways. I hope your smellynproblem goes away too!

I honestly believe that some people just don't care, surely they can smell themselves, I was in Boots the other day and had to move away from quite a few people because they stunk and it was sickening and M&S was as bad.
While out clothes shopping I've often picked up clothes that smelled of sweat, if you're going clothes shopping you should get a wash, it's common sense and I don't want to try jeans on after someone has had them on their sweaty arse.

@newfluffybag print a large notice "be nice to be near" laminate it and stick it up for all to see. no one knows who put it up and no one knows who it is directed at/ alternatively, have a conversation over the coffee break about antiperspirants and discuss which is the best. perhaps she will get the hint. or buy a bottle of deodorant/antiperspirant and plonk it on your desk,

As others have said, this is for the boss to sort out - they get paid to have the difficult conversations.
I once overheard a conversation in a gym changing room that someone was going to have to have a conversation with one of her teachers for wearing leggings that showed her ‘camel toe’ 😅 and she didn’t think that was appropriate in a secondary school (I’m guessing the person talking was the head teacher)

I worked with someone who wore horrible nylon clothes that must not have been washed properly , that wasn't fun

I've had to have this conversation as a manager previously.

I pitched it as I'd received some complaints about them from colleagues, and also noticed the smell myself.

I went with concern and sympathy during the meeting, which the person seemed to appreciate.

The person thanked me for letting them know, and whatever change they made worked, as they never smelt badly again.

Do not send an anonymous note, or start wafting air freshener about. Only a very poor manager would come at it from that angle.

#bekind

This is realistic though. This is not what HR are for, it’s what managers are employed and paid for. If it escalates HR may be involved but never first point of call. It’s immature to think they’re there to sort of everyone’s discomfort in the organisation

You’re assuming that your manager hasn’t done anything because she still smells but life isn’t that simple- people don’t get told and just change.

talk to your manager again but you also need to accept that it may take time to change and if it doesn’t, your managers options are limited, especially based on how far they want to take it. You don’t get to control everything in the workplace, unfortunately

I currently know two people with a similar issue. Both wonderful people, both smell bad. I can't get my head around it.

Something MUST be done.

It could be a welfare issue - illness/disability may be an EDI matter.

She could be in an abusive situation.

She may be living in very difficult circumstances.

She may need HELP.

It's affecting you and your colleagues and your ability to do your jobs and achieve the targets your manager is tasked with delivering.

It's your manager's duty to do their job.

We work with someone like that in a large organisation. I can't be near her or I gag to be sick and have to walk away. Multiple people have complained about it but management have been too scared to do anything. It's horrific!