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If you were absolutely flat broke in this situation, how would you make money?

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stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 17:32

Some context - single mum of 3 teenagers. Qualfied as a nurse a year ago, so on the lowest increment for band 5 pay. i work all night plus extra bank shifts to maximise my income with enhancements. Moving up pay scales/banding is impossible at the minute. The extra shifts means my UC entitlement is 0 most months. I get CB for 2/3 of the children. Eldest has autism and whilst he works, he doesnt earn enough to be contributing anything substantial to the household. Ex gave up working and claims benefits, i get the standard £29 a month deduction from his benefits via CMS, he hasnt seen the children in over a decade so doesnt contribute anything further. I dont drive and theres no public transport running at a time that i can get to work, so i have to pay for taxis which are expensive but i have no other options. Its a 2 hour walk before/after 13 hours shifts and i usually do 4 or 5 in a week, im so exhausted i cant do this walk on top of my very busy active shift. We live in a rented house, which is a reasonable rent for the area, but still expensive. 1 child in school who can walk, 1 child in college who cant walk as its too far so i have to ay transport costs for them. I have some "unnecessary" outgoings, gaming subscriptions and streaming services, however my children are home alone 4 or 5 nights a week so they need something to keep them occupied as i dislike them going out and about whilst im at work, as i work in a very busy A&E department, im not easily contactable and like to know they are safe. I have some small debts im paying off from when i was a student and really struggled to get by.

Every month i run i out of money, its just impossible. I cant work more, i cant see where i can reduce out goings. I cant get a third job (my substantial and bank are two different contracts). I cant afford christmas, which i know isnt the be all and end all. But, when i was a student i promised my children a better future when i was stressed writing assignments doing placements and missing important events. But its not gotten better. Infact im worse off each month now than i was when studying. The recent NHS payrise left me worse off, as it bumped me into the next pension bracket, so the little i got backdated last pay, i now owe in pension arrears from April when the pay rise was back dated to. This amount is more than i received in back pay last month.

Life is just impossible. I cant give my children any standard of living, despite working my arse off to improve my career and do as many shifts a week as i am physically able to do.

What would you do? Genuinely? My only potential plan at the minute is the WFH pip assessor roles, its the same money im on now, but no travel costs. Keep my bank job to pick up an extra weeked shift each week. But its a job role i struggle with morally, and i would lose the patient contact element of my job for the most part. And A&E was my dream job, i love it, and the experience is vital for my future career aspirations.

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canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/11/2024 00:16

I just wanted to say OP that I think you are amazing! You have managed to bring up 3 responsible, well adjusted and hard working young people completely on your own.

Add to this the job that you do in a&e for such a ridiculously low wage, I think you deserve a medal.

Your plan to borrow from your parents to buy a moped seems very sensible & hopefully should slash your travel costs.

I wish you all the best and hope you achieve your dream job very soon ❤️

squashedalmondcroissant · 16/11/2024 23:18

@PiggyPigalle only if she passed her car test before 1st Feb 2001. If she passed after that she still needs to do a CBT to ride a 50cc.

MumDoingMyBest · 16/11/2024 22:49

If you pay for utilities by direct debit have you checked if you have built up any credit there?

You need to be aware that bills can be higher in winter so you'd expect to have a credit with the electricity company now, but it might help a bit in your situation to be paying larger amounts each month and have any credit offsetting your overdraft and reducing the interest you're charged rather than smaller monthly bills, a larger overdraft and a credit you're not getting interest on. Water bills tend to be more consistent through the year so any credit there shouldn't affect monthly payments as much.

Errors · 16/11/2024 22:29

Have only read the OPs posts
But blimey, you’ve been wildly misunderstood on here! Reading comprehension is lacking today I see!

Just want to say you sound like an incredible mom to your one adult and two nearly adult children. They don’t sound at all neglected!
And I read through your posts to see if anyone else had suggested getting a moped but I see you’re already looking in to that

independentfriend · 16/11/2024 22:10

Some specifics: second adult Council Tax rebate - some Councils offer a reduction in Council tax when the second adult in the house is on a low income.

If your eldest is autistic he may fall within the "learning difficulties" criterion for a disabled person's bus pass, which wouldn't save on his travel costs. (He may not, if he's reasonably able, but worth looking at).

Your Trade Union may have help available.

Cycling may be an option for the summer, even if unrealistic in the winter. A folding bike would give you the option to cycle to work and get a taxi home (but yes, upfront cost).

Deeperthantheocean · 16/11/2024 22:07

Can you reduce shifts and go for Bank nursing? My friend earns more than double for this. X

catscatscurrantscurrants · 16/11/2024 21:58

If you are considering a moped, also factor in your CBT (compulsory basic training) - it's a day at a bike school to train you on your moped/scooter for basic riding. I'm not sure of the cost these days, as I passed my bike test 10 years ago, but you'd probably be looking at £100 - £150 where I live in the north. Also a decent bike helmet, jacket, gloves, overtrousers, boots will set you back about £300 - £500. You will need them if you're travelling in all weathers and being warm and dry makes all the difference.

linsey2581 · 16/11/2024 21:57

@stressedoutstudent Your eldest will be entitled to PIP it doesn’t matter if he works he is still entitled to it as they have a recognised disability. (My son is 21 and is autistic). He should also claim UC disabled payment. Do any of your other teens have caring responsibilities towards him? If so then that can perhaps claim Carers allowance. Hope this helps a bit x

Mantissatopower4 · 16/11/2024 21:51

Sorry, I get annoyed when I see posts that have been previously answered, reanswered with existing answer! But you cannot be expected to read the whole thread, perhaps thousands of answers before making a suggestion. The original poster must be the one to read everything, and if duplicate answers have been made, sorry in advance. AI could check, but if you are told your answer is a duplicate, eventually the number of posts would drop. Mums net wouldn’t want a fall in interactions..

changeme4this · 16/11/2024 21:41

Can you apply to be an (online) exam marker in your field for studying students at exam time?

Our DD did it for a while nearly 3000 kms away from her uni. They were struggling to maintain regular markers and although it’s not additional weekly income, but 4 times a year, it gave her quite a bonus in funds.

pumpkinpillow · 16/11/2024 21:39

Mantissatopower4 · 16/11/2024 21:18

Any chance of getting lifts to work? Does the hostpital run a car share scheme. It must be a major centre of employment, so there must be loads of people locally going to work at the hostpital. You have done brilliantly to cope, hang in there, it will get easier.

OP has already answered this questions "I've only come across one collegue who lives in my direction, and she works mostly day shifts."

It would probably help OP if posters could at least read her posts so that suggestions are not repeated.

Mantissatopower4 · 16/11/2024 21:18

Any chance of getting lifts to work? Does the hostpital run a car share scheme. It must be a major centre of employment, so there must be loads of people locally going to work at the hostpital. You have done brilliantly to cope, hang in there, it will get easier.

pumpkinpillow · 16/11/2024 21:11

PiggyPigalle · 16/11/2024 21:05

It's a saturated market. This government are looking to come down hard on licensing and it's costly to train.

Never mind the fact that OP is already stretched to her limit working and caring for her family.

PiggyPigalle · 16/11/2024 21:05

Duckydoop · 16/11/2024 20:55

Can you train to administer Botox/fillers as nurse who do this earn well.

It's a saturated market. This government are looking to come down hard on licensing and it's costly to train.

PiggyPigalle · 16/11/2024 21:00

DurinsBane · 16/11/2024 15:44

Don’t forget you would need to do your Compulsory Basic Training to ride a moped. It is about 150 pounds, a few hours sworn with an instructor in a group serting

Up to 50cc and riding one on her car licence, she doesn't need training.

Duckydoop · 16/11/2024 20:55

Can you train to administer Botox/fillers as nurse who do this earn well.

junecarter91 · 16/11/2024 20:46

Could you look at the nhs lease car scheme. No initial outlay, they deliver the car too. All costs are included (servicing, repairs, tyres). My husband has just got a brand new MG4 and it's worked out around £230 a month and then around £30-40 to charge it at work

Miley1967 · 16/11/2024 20:12

Lulu49 · 16/11/2024 19:55

Is there an option for you to work part time which may make you eligible for UC. Do you get DLA/PIP for your autistic child? You could possibly claim housing benefit if you only had to work part time. I think you need to think of your health and the amount of stress you are under can't be good for you. 😘😘

Op has already said she doesn't get UC. Her child with autism is an adult and working. In a couple of years time all her kids will be adults so no chance of Uc then. Universal credit don't generally like people with teenage kids working part time. Reducing hours to claim UC would just make her worse off as it doesn't make up for lost earnings.

Lulu49 · 16/11/2024 19:55

Is there an option for you to work part time which may make you eligible for UC. Do you get DLA/PIP for your autistic child? You could possibly claim housing benefit if you only had to work part time. I think you need to think of your health and the amount of stress you are under can't be good for you. 😘😘

pippitypoppitypoo · 16/11/2024 19:54

Really feel for you and impressed with how resilient and positive you are being in a tough situation. Your kids are so lucky to have such a great hardworking and inspirational mum! Moped sounds great- good luck with it and please get a really good lock!

NannaKaren · 16/11/2024 19:39

Agix · 15/11/2024 17:41

PIP assessor, and Id be a super nice one who listened. Need more of those.

Definitely PIP ASSESSOR

BeccaS34 · 16/11/2024 19:36

stressedoutstudent · 16/11/2024 14:38

I dont think switching banks is a good idea at the minute as one of my debts is the associated overdraft im gradually reducing. Onces thats cleared then potentially something i can do for extra cash.

OP have you tried negotiating them down? I worked as an executive assistant once and he told me he never pays fees, call and negotiate. If they’re charging you any kind of interest or fees on these debts call and ask if they can remove them as a one time courtesy.

Depending on the bank they will. There’s a bank that will remove all fees the first time you ask, half the second time etc. pretend you’re a rich entitled person and try to negotiate anything that might be remotely negotiable down. If the first person you talk to says no, ask to escalate to their next level of support.

is it ok if I send you a message?

Judecb · 16/11/2024 19:35

I'm so sorry to read this post. You are doing everything possible and still finding it hard to keep your head above water. Could it be worth speaking to someone at Citizens Advice to see if there are any benefits your are missing out on. Would a possibility be to move to a cheaper area? Is there any way you can push to be fast-tracked within the role you're doing for a more senior & better paid job? You are obviously a clever and hard working person, it's shocking that you are struggling like this.

oldmoaner · 16/11/2024 19:03

Is there a Company Shop in your area? If so apply for a card (your profession allows you one) food is much cheaper and household things) joint Olio, request items that are listed food plus other things for free. Have the family outgrown any clothes or no longer want other items? Advertise them and get some money for them. Anything you or kids can make and sell?

MyHouseIsABusStop · 16/11/2024 18:56

Oh... and get the moped! Sounds like a great plan and fingers crossed your parents will be able to help with a loan