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If you were absolutely flat broke in this situation, how would you make money?

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stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 17:32

Some context - single mum of 3 teenagers. Qualfied as a nurse a year ago, so on the lowest increment for band 5 pay. i work all night plus extra bank shifts to maximise my income with enhancements. Moving up pay scales/banding is impossible at the minute. The extra shifts means my UC entitlement is 0 most months. I get CB for 2/3 of the children. Eldest has autism and whilst he works, he doesnt earn enough to be contributing anything substantial to the household. Ex gave up working and claims benefits, i get the standard £29 a month deduction from his benefits via CMS, he hasnt seen the children in over a decade so doesnt contribute anything further. I dont drive and theres no public transport running at a time that i can get to work, so i have to pay for taxis which are expensive but i have no other options. Its a 2 hour walk before/after 13 hours shifts and i usually do 4 or 5 in a week, im so exhausted i cant do this walk on top of my very busy active shift. We live in a rented house, which is a reasonable rent for the area, but still expensive. 1 child in school who can walk, 1 child in college who cant walk as its too far so i have to ay transport costs for them. I have some "unnecessary" outgoings, gaming subscriptions and streaming services, however my children are home alone 4 or 5 nights a week so they need something to keep them occupied as i dislike them going out and about whilst im at work, as i work in a very busy A&E department, im not easily contactable and like to know they are safe. I have some small debts im paying off from when i was a student and really struggled to get by.

Every month i run i out of money, its just impossible. I cant work more, i cant see where i can reduce out goings. I cant get a third job (my substantial and bank are two different contracts). I cant afford christmas, which i know isnt the be all and end all. But, when i was a student i promised my children a better future when i was stressed writing assignments doing placements and missing important events. But its not gotten better. Infact im worse off each month now than i was when studying. The recent NHS payrise left me worse off, as it bumped me into the next pension bracket, so the little i got backdated last pay, i now owe in pension arrears from April when the pay rise was back dated to. This amount is more than i received in back pay last month.

Life is just impossible. I cant give my children any standard of living, despite working my arse off to improve my career and do as many shifts a week as i am physically able to do.

What would you do? Genuinely? My only potential plan at the minute is the WFH pip assessor roles, its the same money im on now, but no travel costs. Keep my bank job to pick up an extra weeked shift each week. But its a job role i struggle with morally, and i would lose the patient contact element of my job for the most part. And A&E was my dream job, i love it, and the experience is vital for my future career aspirations.

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BustyCrustacean · 15/11/2024 22:25

BackinBlack24 · 15/11/2024 17:47

Etsy is great you can create digital downloads using canva it will take time to take off I do nothing with mine just listed 30 - 40 items that's I know will sell , did my research on what's popular I doesn't make much as I don't put any work into right now maybe £100 a month but for something I literally don't have to do anything with after I set it all up I'm ok with it . There's also the option to do drop shipping using printful or similar which would earn more money but you would have to put more time into it as customers would be contacting you or if a parcel goes missing etc . But worth looking into its very easy

sorry to hijack thread, OP!

@BackinBlack24 could someone who is totally useless with tech use Canva? I just had a quick look- how much is it once the free trial is over? Thanks for the suggestion- really interesting

Coulddowithchoc · 15/11/2024 22:24

I haven’t read the whole thing so apologies if this has been mentioned already. Can you opt of the pension for say 2 years? Use the pension money to pay for life insurance (around £12 a month if no heath issues with a generous payout) and invest a small portion into a private pension just for a couple of years until rejoining when things are settled?

Miley1967 · 15/11/2024 22:22

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 22:14

even the day shift i couldnt use buses. The issue isnt the buses to the hospital, they are regular, but not from the town im in. I would have to get a bus in the opposite direction to a different town, which is about 20 minutes, on a bus service that runs hourly 6am-6pm, to then get the bus to the hospital, which takes about 45 minutes. Its not possible to get these busses to get to work for 7am for the day shift. I can do it for nights. but it takes a long time, plus accounting for delays with rush hour traffic. At a guess, i would have to leave before 5pm to get to work 7pm. I finish at 8am walk to the bus stop which isnt near A&E its at outpatients, bus to town, wait for my hourly service, catch that, a good 10 mins walk from the bus stop home, so would probably get home for what 10am? That leaves me 7 hours between my shifts at home. Even if i just shower sleep and eat, thats a maximum of 5 hours in bed a day. Taxis I get home for 8.30am and leave again at 6.30pm. 10 hours at thats already exhausting.

If it gives you any hope my friend's daughter has only been qualified about three or four years and is already a sister in A&E, so at least band 6.

Anotherworrier · 15/11/2024 22:21

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 22:02

I only get UC for 2 of the children, not 3 as one is over 18 and not in eduation. Our LHA is much, much lower than private rents, so it is what it is

So you still get the housing allowance, just not the full amount of the rent?

HappyHedgehog247 · 15/11/2024 22:17

I have a family member who was a nurse and did the PIP role. It was awful for her morale and mental health as it's the opposite of what you train for so hard.

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 22:14

converseandjeans · 15/11/2024 22:03

I don't really have any ideas on how you can save any more money. However have you applied for pupil premium? That would at least help with school meals & trips & visits.

I think a small car would be better - at least you could fit kids in & do food shop in it.

Your kids sound lovely & they're lucky to have such a hardworking Mum.

I might have missed this but could you not work day time shifts? You could then travel on public transport rather than needing taxis.

It's frustrating when you're borderline & probably not actually getting much more spends than someone not working. Long term you will be better off though.

even the day shift i couldnt use buses. The issue isnt the buses to the hospital, they are regular, but not from the town im in. I would have to get a bus in the opposite direction to a different town, which is about 20 minutes, on a bus service that runs hourly 6am-6pm, to then get the bus to the hospital, which takes about 45 minutes. Its not possible to get these busses to get to work for 7am for the day shift. I can do it for nights. but it takes a long time, plus accounting for delays with rush hour traffic. At a guess, i would have to leave before 5pm to get to work 7pm. I finish at 8am walk to the bus stop which isnt near A&E its at outpatients, bus to town, wait for my hourly service, catch that, a good 10 mins walk from the bus stop home, so would probably get home for what 10am? That leaves me 7 hours between my shifts at home. Even if i just shower sleep and eat, thats a maximum of 5 hours in bed a day. Taxis I get home for 8.30am and leave again at 6.30pm. 10 hours at thats already exhausting.

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Midwifelife · 15/11/2024 22:12

I feel your pain relief long shifts and transport. I have a similar length journey and just got an ebike off FB marketplace and am finding my hillu pre and post shift cycle surprisingly manageable (not ideal but is cheap!). I've also taken to trying to get as much reduced food as possible, freezable fruit, veg, bread etc. food banks or community pantries may help too. Remember you can opt out of pension (not the ideal in the long term but if ends literally aren't meeting maybe reduce contributions depending on your age until the teens have flown the nest). My little side hustle is selling on vinted. Some charity shops near me have ridiculously cheap clothes and I sell them on for a little profit. I know some would argue morally I shouldn't be profiting from a charity shop but I was in a position where I was going to have to start using charity if I didn't! It's a bit of effort but gives me a small amount of disposable income I wouldn't otherwise have. Bit of an investment in terms of training but looking at going into aesthetics might be an option? PIP, BPAS, ambulance control, universities are all ways of maintaining your pin and using your qualifications and skills that may offer matched income for either home working or different conditions. Sending lots of wishes for a bit of good fortune or a lottery win your way

Miley1967 · 15/11/2024 22:10

converseandjeans · 15/11/2024 22:03

I don't really have any ideas on how you can save any more money. However have you applied for pupil premium? That would at least help with school meals & trips & visits.

I think a small car would be better - at least you could fit kids in & do food shop in it.

Your kids sound lovely & they're lucky to have such a hardworking Mum.

I might have missed this but could you not work day time shifts? You could then travel on public transport rather than needing taxis.

It's frustrating when you're borderline & probably not actually getting much more spends than someone not working. Long term you will be better off though.

Don't you have to have earnings of less than 7k or something to qualify for pupil premium?

Heretobenosy · 15/11/2024 22:10

Not guaranteed, but I work for a council and we have pay increases delayed and then backdated every year. For some reason some of my colleagues applied to the student loans company for a refund and they had over paid last year. They got £180 back. I tried and got £100. I just logged on the gov website and it was an option on there. Tbf I’m on plan 1 so might be a long shot but worth a look. Took them 24 hours to let me know.

I’ve also been using a cashback app, I buy gift cards through them for things like my Tesco shop and get 4% cash back. Some times there’s offers and it increases. Been doing it 6 months and have just withdrawn £300 from it. The one I use is Tuck which may be Leicester based but there’s othered like Jam Donut.

I also use Swagbucks to earn small amounts of money but I make most of mine on the apps. Playing games which can be time intensive and boring and doesn’t sound like you have a lot of that. Over the years I’ve had thousands from them.

TopCashback is good for things like renewing any insurance or swapping electric providers.

i understand none of these are real fixes but I’ve found the extra money helpful as it trickles in. Although it is a trickle

I hope you sort something soon.

PiggyPigalle · 15/11/2024 22:04

Superworm24 · 15/11/2024 21:33

@stressedoutstudent I would do a botox and filler course and start my own part time business.

I don't think people understand the adrenaline junkie nature of being an A&E Nurse. There's also a camaraderie of the staff in A&E, not found elsewhere.

Being on wards or out-patients, injecting faces must feel very flat in comparison. If money were the object, they wouldn't choose nursing.
They do though need paying commensurate with modern nursing, which is more on a par with a Junior Doctor, than the the old mopping brows and taking temperatures.

mumof1879 · 15/11/2024 22:04

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 22:02

I only get UC for 2 of the children, not 3 as one is over 18 and not in eduation. Our LHA is much, much lower than private rents, so it is what it is

It’s such a shame you don’t have that financial help. Nobody doing such a worthwhile job should struggle and find life difficult. 😞

converseandjeans · 15/11/2024 22:03

I don't really have any ideas on how you can save any more money. However have you applied for pupil premium? That would at least help with school meals & trips & visits.

I think a small car would be better - at least you could fit kids in & do food shop in it.

Your kids sound lovely & they're lucky to have such a hardworking Mum.

I might have missed this but could you not work day time shifts? You could then travel on public transport rather than needing taxis.

It's frustrating when you're borderline & probably not actually getting much more spends than someone not working. Long term you will be better off though.

Miley1967 · 15/11/2024 22:03

I have known a few people who have been PIP assessors and all seem to have been broken by the job so i wouldn't recommend that to be honest.

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 22:02

mumof1879 · 15/11/2024 22:01

Are you sure you should be getting £0 UC? I have you double and triple checked? Your earning feel quite low to not qualify considering you have three children xx

I only get UC for 2 of the children, not 3 as one is over 18 and not in eduation. Our LHA is much, much lower than private rents, so it is what it is

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mumof1879 · 15/11/2024 22:01

Are you sure you should be getting £0 UC? I have you double and triple checked? Your earning feel quite low to not qualify considering you have three children xx

TheFlyingHorse · 15/11/2024 22:01

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 19:57

he wouldnt be entitled. Although he is autistic and requires extra support from me with managing adult life, emotional support as he gets very anxious, and he is dyslexic to the point he struggles to comprehend basically anything written and struggles to communicate effectively, he is capable of holding down a job and doesnt have any additional needs that would justify further finacial support. He earns more than what would entitle him to UC top up. He is under 21 so not on full minimum wage, he works 30 hours a week currently.

Are you sure it's not worth trying? My 18 year old DS has dyspraxia and gets PIP.

Cutting the taxi fares seems the most obvious way to reduce your expenses if you can find another way to get to work.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/11/2024 21:59

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 20:12

Also, staff car parking is i think £35 a month for the pass, a moped i can park for free next to the bike "stands"

I was going to say Car Parking at hospitals for staff is ££ andparking.
doesn't mean you'll get a space . Parking in the streets isn't always easy , the residents don't appreciate the extra traffic and most are permit .

Moped/ e bike is asier to park.

GP Practise Nurse
Blood Donation Service - I bet you are good with needles !

Katemax82 · 15/11/2024 21:57

notanothernamechange24 · 15/11/2024 18:09

Where precisely is the OP supposed to find £800 for an electric bike from?? 🤷🏻‍♀️🙄

Some really stupid suggestions on here

And why should she have to cancel the subscriptions which are keeping her kids occupied and safely at home so she can work?

What would be far better is charging their useless father for abandoning his responsibilities to his kids.

I would look into lift shares with someone if you can OP. Even if it's just for the odd shift it would save a little each time.
Have you checked that everything you are paying out for is the best deal you can get? Look at changing your energy supplier etc. I'd also contact the school and see if there is any help available transport wise for your teen. Or look into getting them a cheap bike if that's an option?

Cycle to work scheme?

Catpuss66 · 15/11/2024 21:55

stressedoutstudent · 15/11/2024 19:57

he wouldnt be entitled. Although he is autistic and requires extra support from me with managing adult life, emotional support as he gets very anxious, and he is dyslexic to the point he struggles to comprehend basically anything written and struggles to communicate effectively, he is capable of holding down a job and doesnt have any additional needs that would justify further finacial support. He earns more than what would entitle him to UC top up. He is under 21 so not on full minimum wage, he works 30 hours a week currently.

He might be able to get some PIP, have you thought about talking to CAB. If you were not around who would support him? It”s non means tested. Worth a punt CAB filled my forms in for me.

saythebellsofstclements · 15/11/2024 21:53

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/11/2024 19:50

It's in the OP " I dont drive and theres no public transport running at a time that i can get to work,"
Do you really think they OP would be paying out for taxis if there were a bus that she could get to work?

Well that's something that needs to change. Buses ought to run a skeleton service to and from hospitals 24 hours a day. Even if they don't go anywhere else. Hundreds of staff would benefit from this.

Are you there Louise Haigh?

Franjipanl8r · 15/11/2024 21:53

I wanted to say a huge congratulations that you’ve qualified into a profession with teenagers at home and a single mum and not a lot of financial backing behind you. That takes a huge amount of will power and determination and I really hope you find the solution you need in the short term to keep going!

I’d reach out to a local charity or food bank for help with food or transport to work. Ask around and see if there are any local schemes you could benefit from - you never know.

Lozzyloz · 15/11/2024 21:52

Hi OP, you are doing a great job and sorry you are having a hard time financially. To earn a little extra on the side I would suggest looking at private caring opportunities, I know of a lot of wealthy people who care for their husbands / wives but cannot find or are not eligible for carers and would pay well for relief caring (especially from a nurse). Someone who can come in and give them a night off or just a bit of extra help. They might not even mind if you bring a kid with you as often they are lonely and like the company. For your son, I would suggest dog walking, autistic people often are very good with animals. Good luck!

LadyChilli · 15/11/2024 21:50

I've only read the first couple of pages so apologies if this has already been suggested - bank account switching. You can make £200-300 a time for switching your current account. Plenty of details on Martin Lewis money saving expert website. I did it 4x in about a year. It's about 15 mins of effort per switch so money for nothing.

Anotherworrier · 15/11/2024 21:47

You’d get UC on such a low wage and rental costs.

SayDoWhatNow · 15/11/2024 21:42

Just a quick warning about the scooter/moped - make absolutely sure you have secure parking for it both at home and at the hospital. A relative has one and it got nicked after a few weeks. Absolutely soul destroying.

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