The child who confessed should get a reduced sentence?

This post is disgraceful

For some crimes there is no genuine possibility of rehabilitation, why on earth should the public bear the burden of a risk like that?

I doubt the concept of prison is more terrifying for him than being stabbed to death in the street was for those poor children he killed.

He likely will get a reduced sentence if he pled guilty at an early opportunity. It’s for the judge to decide. Regardless, there is no punishment adequate to account for the horrors he committed.

Pretty much everyone is doing a shitty job of reporting or discussing this with any semblance of objectivity or nuance.

Five people were convicted of murdering two people.

One adult male and four teenage males were convicted of murdering two teenage males.

Two adult men and three teenage boys were convicted of murdering two teenage boys.

An adult male 45, a teenage adult male 18, and three teenage boys 17, 16, 15 were convicted of murdering two teenage boys age 16 and 15.

It is the youngest boy 15, who confessed to murdering the 15 year old boy, but denied killing the 16 year old boy.

Those calling for the most extreme penalties for three teenage boys who murdered two teenage boys, without any attention to power structures, deprivation, indoctrination, or the epidemic of shit parenting in an ever more unequal society, well, they are simply indulging their own monstrous tendencies, from an armchair.

I think you're completely unreasonable to call the 15 and 16 year old innocent victims "young men" when you call the 15 year old cold blooded machete wielding killer a "child".
Nice try OP.

Life means life. He'll never be 'free'. He'll only be considered for release at the time determined by the judge. If he still presents a danger to society (and let's face it, it's likely), then parole won't be granted. Even if he is released, he will be subject to conditions and if he breaches them, or is thought to be a danger to the public, even if he doesn't commit an offence, he'll be recalled to prison.

Nothing good comes from roaming the streets at 11pm at night - at any age. Keep your kids in. There's absolute scumbags out there. Horrific.

I suppose it may have been complicated by the 40 yo man who was charged with murder but, from the description of events, doesn't sound like he could have struck the lethal blows.

I'm not suggesting that he doesn't deserve the murder charge but it probably takes longer for a jury to arrive to that conclusion.

They went out intending to kill someone and did kill someone. The fact it wasn't who they were actually after is neither here nor there in my opinion - as is the fact one confessed.

I think it should be ten years minimum (so 20 if they are going to halve it) for carrying a knife or other offensive weapon (ie. Acid). Let alone doing anything with it.

We seriously need to come down on this hard.

Nobody should get a reduced sentence just because they plead guilty.
They have still done the crime and ruined the victims families lives.

What we should be starting to do now if punish parents if their children are under 18 when they kill.people.
People who have children and can't control them and don't care what they are up too or where they are helping to contribute to this horrible problem we have got where Young people are taking life's often other young people's lives.
They are part of the problem.

Nothing we are doing at the moment is making the world a nicer place to live.

Two young men? They were CHILDREN! The killers are low life feral scum and should be locked away forever. Hope that helps. Save your sympathy for the actual victims and their families.

They were kids op, innocent kids, 15 and 16. I couldn't give a fuck how terrified one of their killers might be

Do we know who the 45 yo man was in relation to the murderers? That might explain a lot.

I'm a big believer into thinking about children's vulnerabilities and what may lead them to make poor choices but in this situation no op, he shouldn't. Have you seen the knives used? They weren't even bothered going for McDonald's afterwards. I hope neither of the families are on heed seeing this.

Don’t worry he won’t be inside long OP and will likely have a lovely time.
Unlike the terrifying time the two boys he callously murdered.
I know what I’d like to do with the murdering little shit.

I think they are. OP got excited when a previous poster said about reduced sentences in adult courts and hasn't been back since. No one else would think the sentence should be reduced after what they did. They've shown no remorse. Who hacks someone to death then goes for a MacDonalds?! Only a sick individual who needs locking away for a very long time!!!

Ask yourself this OP. How do you think reading your post might make the loved ones of the victims feel?

Your empathy is with the wrong people and YABVU indeed!

I disagree. I think the OP is pontificating from a place of having zero emotional connection to this horrendous event.

This is a really weird thread. I feel like the OP may know more than she’s letting on.

It really is deeply shocking.

They look like such nice boys.

Their poor mothers, the grief they are suffering must be unendurable.

What is so appalling is the 45 year old man.

Someone so so much older, should have pulled rank and calmed the situation down.

It definitely does affect communities when dreadful crimes takes place.

Becky Watts and Jo Yeates are still in people's memories.

These two innocent boys will be, too.

Max and Mason.

Where is the deterrent to other children if he isn't severely punished for the murder he committed.

We need tougher sentences across the board for knife crime no matter what the age.

Knife crime in this country is a plague and we need tougher sentences for even for just possession.

I appreciate that jail must be terrifying but it won't be as terrifying as being hacked to death with a machete. Whatever the sentence, he will get off lightly in comparison.

How anyone in their right mind can even think to post this 😞shameful and despicable OP…

What a ridiculous post by OP! Are you related to the scum bags?

they were two young children not men…horrific beyond words hope the perpetrators never get out of prison and get their just deserts inside …and some.

Deluded to post this….

The were 2 innocent children who hadn’t done anything wrong and I’m sorry but anyone that callous regardless of age should be locked up for a long time- it is a very violent way to murder someone. Maybe if they kept these kind of criminals locked up for life as it should be less people would die.

Also, imagine if those poor boys families saw this post 😞

I was in the jury pool the day trial started. You have no idea how palpable it was that something horrendous is waiting for a dozen of us. No one wanted to be in that panel.I hope the jury doesn't have to sit for any trial ever in this life.there is no aftercare,sitting through evidence must be horrendous. Can't even imagine what the families of the two innocent victims had to go through. So no I dont care about so called poor child being terrified of prison.It will forever be a shame for Bristol ,no one in this city thinks like you OP.