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To be annoyed child got no part in school play

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Honeybeebuzz · 15/11/2024 14:40

Child is in Year 1, they do their play with the reception class too. Last year he didn't get a part but we were told it's because most parts go to the Year 1s. Just found out he's not got a part again, just chorus. Its a small school so most do and im not sure why he didn't. He's generally well behaved, confident and doing well academically so not like he couldn't manage a line or two. Just feel a bit sad for him as he's chatting away about the parts his friends got. There's nothing I can do really and im obviously not showing him im annoyed

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CaptainMyCaptain · 15/11/2024 18:23

Orangefruitbrush · 15/11/2024 15:24

If he really wants a part, I think you need to be that pushy parent that asks that he gets one.

You think that a part should be created specially for him? Not everyone gets a speaking part. That's life.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 15/11/2024 18:23

I can't believe you're actually worried about this tbh. By all means have a word with the teacher if you want to be labelled 'that' parent.

You know I see this comment a lot on Mumsnet and I always think the person writing it is firstly a dick, but also clearly so terrified of being labelled 'that parent' (which I and most parent couldn't give a shit about) that they will fail to communicate with the school on their child's behalf when necessary.

MargaretThursday · 15/11/2024 18:20

In my dc's school for the year 2 play they asked the children what they wanted to be and if more than one wanted a part which couldn't be multiplied, then they drew names out of a hat. The most contested part was a non-speaking donkey. Ds was very smug to get that. I think they did offer him to say "clipperty clop" and he refused.
I think he was an innkeeper saying "go away" one year, and in the year 6 play he had one line. Rest of the time he was bored chorus.
Last summer, 10 years later, he performed a good sized part in an adult play to about 5k people over 5 days. so it obviously didn't limit him.

But actually I do sort of agree with the OP. When I was at school there were loads of opportunities. We had one assembly a term, at least one play a year (3 in the last two years), a poetry evening where everyone could put themselves forwards, rather grandly called "The Eisteddfod", and harvest festival, carol service, end of year assembly all of which would have had 1-2 parts per form, and the leaving assembly.
My dc had one assembly a year, one Christmas play (done across the year with at junior level around 80% of the children with no part due to how they cast it) and a leaving show. That was it.
There were many children who never had a line to say over the junior years.
The plays used to particularly irritate me. They'd have 150 kids, and give one shepherd 20 lines. Why not with that number give 20 shepherds one line? That's 19 happy children, and the shepherd with 20 lines inevitably forgot at least one and got upset too.
They even had one show where we had a break of 10 minutes while the main cast, of 15 children, changed into a different costume and 135 sat there in school uniform and yawned.

When I've done plays with children (not in school), I've felt it's really important that every child can go home and say "my part is X and I do X".
That's how I think they should be doing it. Does it matter if they have 15 angels? No. Give 10 of them lines, and the 5 who don't want/can't manage lines something important to do like carrying a star or handing baby Jesus over. It's easy with a little imagination and knowledge of the children.
I remember one time a little one saying she didn't want lines and we gave her the part of being a shadow, which she did brilliantly. She then said she'd like a line about a week before the show, so we said she could say "goodbye everyone - oh I can speak now!" at the end and she was so pleased. The next year she wanted a full part, which she did very well.

RB68 · 15/11/2024 18:19

oh yeah and aged around 9 she said "its not like I will put it on my CV is it" Ha ha ha

RB68 · 15/11/2024 18:18

i was always glad mine didnt do anything but be an angel in reception or a shepherd for the rest of her school life. No lines just songs and no bother with learning lines, stage fright or similar - sometimes its good to not pop a head over the parapet - she got more free time at home etc. She was the one that told me all this and said its fine Mum I can't be faffed with it anyway!!!

Now she merrily makes films, acts in them and does scripts.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 15/11/2024 18:14

Yousay55 · 15/11/2024 18:13

If they haven’t got a line for your dc, it’s not hard to write one in!

Exactly this.

It's a nativity play, not Shakespeare.

Tbh even if it were Shakespeare 99% of people wouldn't notice if you added in an extra line here and there.

Yousay55 · 15/11/2024 18:13

If they haven’t got a line for your dc, it’s not hard to write one in!

Yousay55 · 15/11/2024 18:12

Ask the teacher and say he would appreciate a line. Be that mother-it doesn’t matter.

As a teacher, I count the lines of the parts my classes have to make things as fair as possible. I know how disappointing it can be for you and the child not to be treated fairly.

ZaraSkyTraveler · 15/11/2024 18:09

It’s very disappointing at the time. But when they’re 18 and sitting A-levels, and driving you around and doing your proud, you’ll forget this time. Xx

BodyKeepingScore · 15/11/2024 18:08

Orangefruitbrush · 15/11/2024 15:24

If he really wants a part, I think you need to be that pushy parent that asks that he gets one.

So another child, who has already been allocated a part has it taken from them to accommodate OP's son?

StandingSideBySide · 15/11/2024 18:08

Needmorelego · 15/11/2024 18:05

I never believe people who claim the best parts go to the children of PTA members because from my experience the class teachers have no idea which parents are involved with the PTA 🤔

Definitely not in ours.
Most of the teachers were past pupils with most of the parents their school friends…all heavily favoured in every way.
Then there’s the teachers kids.
We haven’t had a head boy or girl in the last 7years that wasn’t from one of these categories.
Thats before we even touch on the ‘parent group PTA’.

Needmorelego · 15/11/2024 18:05

I never believe people who claim the best parts go to the children of PTA members because from my experience the class teachers have no idea which parents are involved with the PTA 🤔

PeloMom · 15/11/2024 17:58

Have you asked your child if they’re interested at all in a speaking part? As others have said, they may have asked for willing kids and they didn’t volunteer. Your post sounds like you’re disappointed, not your child.

ClairDeLaLune · 15/11/2024 17:56

Please don’t be that parent and mention anything to the school. Sometimes in life you get chosen, sometimes you don’t. Dealing with disappointment is one of life’s lessons.

CucumberBagel · 15/11/2024 17:52
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gotchaintheribs · 15/11/2024 17:48

I suppose if he's confident and doing well academically then maybe they have given the parts to those who aren't as academic so it's a chance for them to shine or parts to some who aren't as confident to bring their confidence on.

Stravaig · 15/11/2024 17:47

Maybe they're going for artistic content and your son has a lovely singing voice?

You'd have hated me. I was Mary. Every. single. year. Apparently I have an 'old-fashioned face'. I hated it, but I don't remember there being a choice.

Years later, we got a new drama teacher, who put on a musical instead, a Western. I was thrilled, I got to be a saloon girl who the Sherrif's mistress, which I didn't understand, but involved dancing the can-can and getting into a cat-fight. So cool, and so not the blessed Virgin again.

thirdfiddle · 15/11/2024 17:47

DS was literally the only child in his year who did not have a line, at his own request, two years in a row. He ended up being the donkey both times. The second time he changed his mind and wanted to speak, so they gave the donkey a line 😂

pastapestoparmesan · 15/11/2024 17:46

Does he even want one? When I taught KS1 I always asked the children who wanted a speaking part and they all got one. Some a few words, some loads of lines. One child who I had lined up in my head for a big speaking part was desperate to be the (non-speaking) donkey, so she was. The only time I’d worry about them being ‘good at it’ is to sing a solo. Other than that, who cares? They’re 5 and look cute in shiny stuff/ animal costumes!

Onthemaintrunkline · 15/11/2024 17:46

I’m with your husband, don’t make a fuss! Your child has a long time in education, if you are starting like this in yr 1 what are you going to be like further along. Pick your battles!

thirdfiddle · 15/11/2024 17:45

JWKD · 15/11/2024 15:52

So which child's part do you think should be taken away from them and given to yours?

Come off it, teachers put extra lines into these things all the time. It's a infant school nativity not the next west end show. They usually find or create a line for anyone who wants one.

Worth asking OP. Might have been a misunderstanding or for some reason he was out of the classroom at the critical moment for volunteering.

SanctusInDistress · 15/11/2024 17:43

Yes. My experience of uk primary system is that naughty kids are given plum parts to ‘motivate’ them, whilst good kids get left out. I had 6 years of this with my kid. He often also got sat next to the disruptive kids so that the disruptive kids somehow ‘absorbed’ good behaviour from my son, or so that my son could help them when they got stuck. It got to the point we had to ask the school if they could pay my son a teaching assistant wage!!!

it’s not great. Naughty kids get rewarded for not spitting on the floor, whilst kids who would never spit in the floor don’t get rewarded because no carrot is needed for them.

wafflesmgee · 15/11/2024 17:40

I think being in a nativity is about more than a speaking part, it is about all coming together to perform, every child involved is taking part in one way or another. It's life that they can't all have the same part, the show would be pretty boring if they did?! Shool about celebrating and supporting children's individual skills, but a show is about everyone coming together to create one thing. If your child is happy, I think you need to ask the bigger question of why you are not?

LlynTegid · 15/11/2024 17:39

Please accept this and don't go to the teacher about it. I agree with your DH on this one.

TheFunHare · 15/11/2024 17:36

Maybe the school make an effort to give opportunity to other children who perhaps don't find school as easy to navigate. If so credit to them! Generally you see the same high achieving kids get all the limelight so building confidence in other children in areas that they can is lovely. I don't mean that as any detriment to your son but if he is getting on well at school academically and socially perhaps he is more able to accept it.