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Emotionally unsupportive husband

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jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 00:27

I have had a day. One of those emotional convos with your toxic boomer parent horrible horrible convo. I couldn't concentrate the whole day. Had to cancel work (never ever done that)

I cried all day. Husband was due to be out at work drinks. He offered to call but you know when you will just cry more and I was trying to pull it together to pick up our kid which wasn't far off. I told him it was possibly the worst day emotionally I have ever had in my life.

He asked me how I was after pick up. I said still crying.

He asked shall I come home and I know some person will say well why didn't you just say yes but it absolutely hit me. He is not emotionally in tune. It just would have meant so much support for me for him to say "I'm coming home"

I'm sick and tired of him getting all the support he needs but when I need it "well you didn't say come home" FFS cancelling work, crying all day and night - do I have to ask?!

Now it's after midnight. I'm still crying and he's still out. I can't believe he's proceeded with his social evening late. Fine go out because the damage is done but staying out so late and not checked in.

I'm so upset. Please no rude people.

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Dibbydoos · 15/11/2024 09:12

Men are from Mars. If we want them to do what we need, we have to say so. He asked if you wanted him home, and you should have said yes.

Pls don't be cranky with your DH but do say you expected him to make the right choice and he didn't so you're disappointed esp given how upset you were. Dont make it an argument because he will say that he asked you. Just keep it to, you should do the right thing, if he'd been upset you'd have cancelled your social for him. Make him think and stand in your shoes. But next time you need him to do abc, just say you need abc, dont think he'll work it out.

I'm so sorry you had an awful exp with your parents. It's horrible that as adults, what they do still really affects us. Rationalise what happened and put the exp away.

Sending a hug x

Hankunamatata · 15/11/2024 09:12

Sorry it was a tough day op

I think I'd focus on verbalising what you want. Tell him what you need from him

Boomer55 · 15/11/2024 09:11

StormingNorman · 15/11/2024 00:44

I wouldn’t expect my DH to cancel his work plans because I was upset. It would literally have to be a life and death situation.

Nor me - I’d be better on my own if I couldn’t stop crying anyway. But, he did offer to come home,nod I’m not sure what more he should have done. 🤷‍♀️

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 09:06

I mean the alternative is being single (I don't have a relationship with parents either because of situations like you describe). Not going to lie, it's lonely! But I never disappoint myself.

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 09:03

Pussycat22 · 15/11/2024 09:00

Don't expect people to do what you think they should do , you will always be disappointed. Some good advice on here , hope you resolve things and feel better. x

Really true but doesn't that feel like quite a sad way to be. Just kind of expect nothing from anyone although as I type it I don't really expect anything from anyone expect him. And I give A LOT there's not a situation he hasn't had where I have not been there and been there to a high standard.

But yeah a PP say to lay off that which I will try just feels unatural and fake to limit your love and effort. But then I guess I'll be less disappointed.

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jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 09:00

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 08:55

Oh I remember that feeling from when I was married! All his stuff was a priority over me. If I had replied 'yes' he'd have come home but sulkily and it would've gone on his list - he kept score!

Thank you!

As if he is the perfect person for asking. This is what I mean by asking and coming home are two different things.

But yes, I should have said yes and risked the sulk because now I'm just wrong. Still no support about yesterday but I'm more self able today.

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Pussycat22 · 15/11/2024 09:00

Don't expect people to do what you think they should do , you will always be disappointed. Some good advice on here , hope you resolve things and feel better. x

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 08:55

Oh I remember that feeling from when I was married! All his stuff was a priority over me. If I had replied 'yes' he'd have come home but sulkily and it would've gone on his list - he kept score!

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:50

Edinlassy · 15/11/2024 08:39

I feel like I get you from what you have written as I have had similar situation with my own mother and I can feel your utter pain through your words. When we get so let down by our own parents the people who should love you the most and never want to hurt you it leads you to crave the love and care from the next person in line your partner and you didn’t get that. You need a hug sweetheart.
Your anger here should be directed at your parents and then a conversation to be had with your husband when you are calmer about how you really needed him to be there for you at that time as it sounds like he just hasn’t realised you needed him.
sending you a hated mumsnet hug as I feel the hurt in every word you write.

Thank you so much

I'm more logical today so I will talk to him just still feel a bit shit inside.

Really appreciate the reply.

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coffeesaveslives · 15/11/2024 08:49

I think I would feel quite manipulated if my offer to come home was declined, but my partner then got upset because I didn't come home anyway.

Your DH sounds like a good egg and actually quite supportive from what you've said - he checked up on you several times and offered to cancel his plans this be with you - the fact that you chose not to take him up on that is on you, not him.

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:49

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 15/11/2024 08:45

Op without wanting to sound curt, would it not have been better for your mental health to just end the telephone conversation? I know it's too late now but I'd say maybe learn from this experience if it's going to cause you that level of emotion. Crying all day and night is not normal after a conversation of any kind. Just hang up next time you are in this situation.

For sure and that doesn't sound curt. The whole thing was unexpected and a shock.

That's part of the reason why the day was a shit show as I was trying to process all that was said and revealed.

I won't get caught off guard again.

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Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 15/11/2024 08:45

Op without wanting to sound curt, would it not have been better for your mental health to just end the telephone conversation? I know it's too late now but I'd say maybe learn from this experience if it's going to cause you that level of emotion. Crying all day and night is not normal after a conversation of any kind. Just hang up next time you are in this situation.

Edinlassy · 15/11/2024 08:39

I feel like I get you from what you have written as I have had similar situation with my own mother and I can feel your utter pain through your words. When we get so let down by our own parents the people who should love you the most and never want to hurt you it leads you to crave the love and care from the next person in line your partner and you didn’t get that. You need a hug sweetheart.
Your anger here should be directed at your parents and then a conversation to be had with your husband when you are calmer about how you really needed him to be there for you at that time as it sounds like he just hasn’t realised you needed him.
sending you a hated mumsnet hug as I feel the hurt in every word you write.

araiwa · 15/11/2024 08:38

The thing is, there is no correct response.

Everyone reacts to situations differently.

If he dropped everything and rushed round to you, it's possible that you may complain that he was suffocating you and you wanted to be left alone.

He asked what you wanted which I think is fair enough

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:36

Amazingday · 15/11/2024 08:28

My DP is not emotional. Or as he puts it does emotions. When my mum died suddenly I could see he did t know what to do. He asked if I wanted him to come round. I says yes. He drive me down next day. He was silent but gave me hugs.

when we came back I felt he abandoned me. he went away on a planned trip for a few days.

he had an event and he did say he would cancel. I said only if you want to. He didn’t and I felt abandoned again.

I spoke to him and he said he was upset for me but he doesn’t do emotions. He will practically help me. Give me a hug and do as I ask. But the key is ask as his style is to ignore. He has learned to ask what do I need from him. My take away was he doesn’t know and it’s not natural to him and his default is to carry on

Sorry you had that experience at such a tough time. I can only imagine grief is up and now with emotions too so you may have not even known you needed him by x day. I hope you had others around you.

For sure. What this post doesn't give you a chance to expose is that I am generally open and able to communicate. I get he is not a mind reader. I have accepted it has to be said. Yesterday was just awful and it was a bit too much to be deal with the horrific convo, manage the toddler and say yes please let your fun plans and come home. Just would have meant a lot for him to show up without having to ask ONCE. But yes, too much to ask. I'm this thread mainly just says I'm dramatic.

Thank you for sharing as that is the bit that was the deal break "if you want me to" just doesn't hit you with love the same as "I'm going to stay with you"

Hard being a female isn't it. Always have to perform to a certain level.

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jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:29

Thanks @Agix all the best. Therapy is super helpful.

I will be fine. I'm stronger and back to normal today. Just a really really really shit day yesterday.

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Amazingday · 15/11/2024 08:28

My DP is not emotional. Or as he puts it does emotions. When my mum died suddenly I could see he did t know what to do. He asked if I wanted him to come round. I says yes. He drive me down next day. He was silent but gave me hugs.

when we came back I felt he abandoned me. he went away on a planned trip for a few days.

he had an event and he did say he would cancel. I said only if you want to. He didn’t and I felt abandoned again.

I spoke to him and he said he was upset for me but he doesn’t do emotions. He will practically help me. Give me a hug and do as I ask. But the key is ask as his style is to ignore. He has learned to ask what do I need from him. My take away was he doesn’t know and it’s not natural to him and his default is to carry on

Agix · 15/11/2024 08:19

It's not that you're not allowed to be upset. It's that you had a pretty extreme reaction to a conversation, and to that upset. Your partner was bewildered most likely at your reaction and didn't know whether to come home or not, so he asked for clarification from you. You told him not to, or at least didn't say yes, and now your blaming him for your inability (or lack of desire?) to communicate. He can only take you at your word.

He probably didn't want to automatically come home, because he was having a good time (and wasnt sure you needed it). And that's OK. That's fine. Hes allowed to want to have a good time, even if youre upset. He would have come home if you told him you needed it, and that's love. That's care.

Him being able to successfully read your mind won't make up for whatever happened. Maybe you're angry at someone else, or upset at someone else, and just directing it to your partner because he's the one who is here now?

Maybe your partner isnt the one who is responsible for letting your heart down? But, again, he's the one closest by and so he's the one that gets blamed when he reacts normally.

Try and put the blame on whoever is truly at fault, whoever is truly the reason for your reaction today.

Consider trauma therapy if you're having reactions like this to the conversations. I'm on the waiting list for it myself. I also need to learn how to avoid the horrible parent and horrible conversations, lol.

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:11

FarmGirl78 · 15/11/2024 07:48

Regardless of what the conversation was about, you have a husband who offered to come home from work because you were upset. I would think most OHs wouldn't even offer that. A lot wouldn't even cross their minds to offer. And you said no!! If you stop expecting perfection then you will hopefully be able to see he's doing a pretty damn good job of emotionally supporting you. You could have said yes and had more support when he got back but you chose not too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Okay I hear that but by it being a question I didn't feel he wanted to leave his gig and I didn't want to make him. I wouldn't have asked him I would have told him. This is what I mean in my head yes you are all right, I should have said yes and I haven't raised anything further with him. But my heart hears it differently.

This really was an unusual a day. Like I said he is v social, been away long and short haul. No drama over here from me.

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jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 08:03

Accepted above this is my fault.

But this is a bit of a perfect forum isn't it

I alllllways cope so I'm not allowed one day after a life changing conversation to not cope. He doesn't ask me to do every little emotional thing but when I does he reacts like oh my gosh that was so thoughtful.

It's not that crazy for him to think woah this isn't like her, must be big I'm not going to leave her alone.

Accepted in my head I should of said but like I said my heart is still let down.

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CeeceeBloomingdale · 15/11/2024 07:56

So normally you cope well and solve your own problems, this is your norm and what DH expects. Yesterday you weren't coping but didn't effectively communicate this. You told him you were having a bad day but didn't tell him to come home. He drew on his experience of you as a coper and assumed you were just sounding off. I don't think he's in the wrong as you didn't effectively communicate your needs. Without knowing the nature of the conversation it all sounds incredibly emotional and dramatic and not at all the reaction of a coper so if he knew the content of the conversation and it was huger than huge then maybe he was unreasonable, there's not enough information to really judge. The moral of the story is to clearly communicate your needs.

FarmGirl78 · 15/11/2024 07:48

Regardless of what the conversation was about, you have a husband who offered to come home from work because you were upset. I would think most OHs wouldn't even offer that. A lot wouldn't even cross their minds to offer. And you said no!! If you stop expecting perfection then you will hopefully be able to see he's doing a pretty damn good job of emotionally supporting you. You could have said yes and had more support when he got back but you chose not too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 01:25

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 01:18

Thank you @BeNavyCrab really appreciate your kindness

You're most welcome. I've been the person thinking "Why the hell haven't you noticed I'm so upset" too. It's only when sitting down and talking about it, that I've come to understand that some times they just don't know it. Still think that they are a bit bloody blind 😂😂, but at least you learn that it's not a lack of love but a lack of perception.

Everything looks better when you aren't tired and your eyes are dry. It's really difficult holding back very strong emotions and keeping the family running, so definitely try to get some you time to do something you find comforting.

jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 01:18

Thank you @BeNavyCrab really appreciate your kindness

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jumperoo2738 · 15/11/2024 01:17

Cindersroo · 15/11/2024 01:10

Yes we don’t know the content of the conversation with parents so I can’t say if Op is being OTT or not in her reaction to it but based on the limited info we have no, I’d not expect your husband to cancel his plans.

That said, this jumped out at me: I get it is not straightforward but whenever he is having a drama I am so very supportive and he knows that.

I think from now on you need to match his energy a bit more. If he has some drama leave him to it - well obviously check in with him like he has you but don’t necessarily cancel your plans etc OR even better while things are calm for both of you speak to him about how you haven’t felt the support you give is reciprocated. It may not necessarily be about this incident but just in general.

It’s a very common thing women in todays world complain about - their male partners not giving them as much support as female friends and it’s something that many actually normalise when it shouldn’t be IMO. As it just turns into women expecting other women to do emotional labour while letting “their man” off the hook.

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Yeah I was thinking this. Just hard because naturally I am a problem solver! Which makes today ironic being all upset all day.

I'm sure with some sleep it will feel better.

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