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To have a romantic view of life as a SAHM?

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ConfusedMummy12 · 14/11/2024 21:35

I'm really struggling with my time management. I work school hours from home. I make a very easy meal in my lunch break, which I have for lunch and then we all have for dinner.
Otherwise, I work while kids are in school.
Do the basics housework (clean kitchen, laundry etc) when they get home.
And we split the rest of the housework between us evenings and weekends and have a cleaner 2 hrs a week.

AIBU to really want a break and be a SAHM for a while? I have this romantic notion that I'll actually get to do some yoga or swimming or something regularly, read a book, cook a wider variety of meals, clean the house myself while the kids are in school and actually be present with them when they get home, get on top of the backlog of decluttering and repainting etc, use weekends to visit family, etc.

Money would be tight, but I think we could manage...and if we don't I have enough savings to cover the time it would take to job hunt for something else...but I'm worried I'm being too optimistic about the grass being greener on the other side.

OP posts:
IamnotSethRogan · 15/11/2024 07:24

My set up is pretty much identical to yours. As far as I'm concerned, there's not a chance in hell I'd give up my flexible, school hours wfh position. It's basically the holy grail of working parent roles. Yes obviously being a parent and working is stressful and hard but that's just life. If you can give up a day that might give you the balance you need.

millymollymoomoo · 15/11/2024 07:22

Why can’t you give your children attention after school if you only work school hours ?

yutulin · 15/11/2024 07:18

How old are the kids and do you have an active partner? I work FT from home and manage the things you're wanting to do. DH does most of the laundry through the week so ignore that (he works FT too), we have a cleaner so don't have to worry about that, I go out to my hobby and exercise classes (including yoga) 4 times a week in the evenings when DH is clearing up after dinner (that I've made, I cook from scratch every day usually 5.30-6 when DH is collecting DS). I'm in when eldest gets in from school so he's not a latch key kid. Weekends are family time.

I will go for a walk at lunch time. Oh and food shop online!

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 07:17

premierleague · 15/11/2024 07:09

How can you be surprised that 9-3, 38 or so weeks a year, isn't what most professionals are able to do?

I work during the school hols, unless I use my annual leave, unpaid leave etc.

But I'm surprised there are not more 9-3ish paid jobs.

In my industry there was a huge push to get women back into the profession (average age of leaving 38 vs average age men leaving 62). To me, quite a lot of that problem could be solved by being willing to let people go part time...
This may not actually be an issue in other industries though, haven't done any research on it.

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 15/11/2024 07:17

Olduser1234 · 14/11/2024 21:43

I am old OP. When I had young DS I knew barely anyone who worked full time ( mothers, not fathers). I did do the lion's share of the housework but it was so... easy? In my current job I come across youngsters ( in their thirties!) who are trying so hard but are so up against it ( housing costs etc.). It is so hard for you now and I wish I could advise how to make it better.

I did do the lion's share of the housework but it was so... easy?

Would you mind elaborating on this, please? My mum made it look easy too but I am struggling to keep up with everything, especially laundry, now that I have children.

What has changed? I feel like if I knew, I could fix it.

premierleague · 15/11/2024 07:09

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 07:06

Thanks everyone. I'll reply individually later but just a few thoughts...

...it's been a particularly intense period for us which is probably why I'm feeling so stretched. My youngest has additional needs and I've been back and forth with school trying to get them met, filling in paperwork etc. There is talk of Flexi schooling him as they don't have the staff to teach him certain things he's going to need for yr1. But this might all settle down soon.

Then our cleaner is away and didn't let us know in advance (it was an emergency visit to her home country) to make alternative arrangements, so we suddenly had a lot more to do (which incidentally took us a lot longer than it would have taken her!)

And I haven't had any spare time recently as we used the part of the weekend I would normally be alone resetting to visit family.

And I've been ill.

All of this feels like a hot bed that would have been easier to deal with if I hadn't been working.

HOWEVER I can self reflect from your replies that I probably wouldn't want to be the only person responsible for housework, in fact I'd hate that. I can delegate more, and things may settle down in a term or a year and then I'd want to be working. I do enjoy my job and I think it's a good idea to drop a day. I'd love to hire someone who can get on top of the backlog of housework.

As for whether my DH is on board...he can see how much I'm juggling and certainly if we end up partially home edding. He wanted to retire at 50 but is happy to retire later if it means the DC get their needs met while they are little. He can also see massive advantages for himself in that, as other posters have said, he'd have more time for leisure too, and I could spend more time working on the business.

I didn't realise school hours only jobs are so hard to come by, it baffles me that professions like NHS, lawyers, accountants etc haven't recognised the need for them..(I'm ND so if this shouldn't be baffling to a NT please be gentle, I'm not deliberately trying to be obtuse!)

How can you be surprised that 9-3, 38 or so weeks a year, isn't what most professionals are able to do?

Mumof2girls2121 · 15/11/2024 07:09

You work school hours from home, will you find a job that will benefit you more than that?

suggest getting a cleaner? Or the kids involved with the tasks so it’s quicker and something you do together while chatting.

Because of the yoga, reading comments it sounds like you don’t actually want to be a SAHM you just need to off the mental load a bit

YessicaHaircut · 15/11/2024 07:07

I completely get where you’re coming from OP. I went back to work when DS was 11 months and was the only one of my group of ‘mum friends’ who was working. It was tough, they all seemed to be having lovely chilled days going to playgroups and drinking coffee. Now all of our kids have started Reception they are all getting bored and are struggling to find suitable jobs that they can do around the school run. Because they were always the default parent their partners seem to think that they will continue to do all of the housework, be responsible for everything child-related etc, I think it’s just become the norm.
I have quite a stressful job and still have days where I fantasise about packing it in BUT I work 3 days (all on site), term time only. So I have 2 days a week where I can work out, do stuff around the house, see friends etc. while DS is at school . If you have the option of going down to 3 or 4 days then do it, honestly it’s the best of both worlds!

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 07:06

Thanks everyone. I'll reply individually later but just a few thoughts...

...it's been a particularly intense period for us which is probably why I'm feeling so stretched. My youngest has additional needs and I've been back and forth with school trying to get them met, filling in paperwork etc. There is talk of Flexi schooling him as they don't have the staff to teach him certain things he's going to need for yr1. But this might all settle down soon.

Then our cleaner is away and didn't let us know in advance (it was an emergency visit to her home country) to make alternative arrangements, so we suddenly had a lot more to do (which incidentally took us a lot longer than it would have taken her!)

And I haven't had any spare time recently as we used the part of the weekend I would normally be alone resetting to visit family.

And I've been ill.

All of this feels like a hot bed that would have been easier to deal with if I hadn't been working.

HOWEVER I can self reflect from your replies that I probably wouldn't want to be the only person responsible for housework, in fact I'd hate that. I can delegate more, and things may settle down in a term or a year and then I'd want to be working. I do enjoy my job and I think it's a good idea to drop a day. I'd love to hire someone who can get on top of the backlog of housework.

As for whether my DH is on board...he can see how much I'm juggling and certainly if we end up partially home edding. He wanted to retire at 50 but is happy to retire later if it means the DC get their needs met while they are little. He can also see massive advantages for himself in that, as other posters have said, he'd have more time for leisure too, and I could spend more time working on the business.

I didn't realise school hours only jobs are so hard to come by, it baffles me that professions like NHS, lawyers, accountants etc haven't recognised the need for them..(I'm ND so if this shouldn't be baffling to a NT please be gentle, I'm not deliberately trying to be obtuse!)

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user1497787065 · 15/11/2024 06:45

I have worked full time, part time and now not at all. We have earned (and spent) a lot of money. I was made redundant during Covid and haven't worked since. Our life albeit with less money is the best it has been. We have time, which is a very much underrated commodity.

When we both worked full time and had children at school we had so little time and spent money without considering it. Our lives were quite superficial really. Now I have time to consider spending. Our lives are more authentic and I can tell you the
Price of everything. Before I didn't have a clue, shopping was a trolley dash.

I know not working isn't a possibility for everyone and we are fortunate that it is for us but I think it's always worth thinking about.

Singleaftermarriage · 15/11/2024 06:40

After my STBXH having an affair and leaving 2 years ago, I'm glad I always kept my career. No one ever thought he would do this and I would never advocate putting yourself in a position where you are completely reliant on another person's income. I'm a single mum with a full time, full on job. Kids stay with their dad once a fortnight for one night. I manage to juggle stuff. It's just about being organised. I hated being part time when I did it for a year though so I'm just the kind of person who likes to be on the go. I definitely wouldn't give up a school hours WFH job. Sounds like a perfect compromise you have at the moment

Perfect28 · 15/11/2024 06:40

I mean sure, everyone would prefer to not work but no I would not quit at the expense of my partner who would have to cover all costs..
You also make yourself vulnerable in future, so no.
Take some unpaid leave to catch up on stuff if you feel you need to.

northernballer · 15/11/2024 06:37

BeckyWithTheGoodBear · 14/11/2024 21:52

I've the same work set up as you and dropped to a 4 day week and it has made all the difference. I would try that first if you can because as everyone has said jobs like that are very hard to come across if you do decide to go back to work.

Edited

I did the same after reading something on here about how working school hours is the worst of both worlds and it has made life so much better! A whole day off means I achieve so much more, a much better balance.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 15/11/2024 06:31

I agree with others, you have a unicorn job and (assuming you actually enjoy it and aren’t seeking another job) need to think before you give it up.

lower standards
easier lunch / batch cooking 1-2ice a week so you can have a walk or do a yoga class
dh to have children solo for a bit of the weekend so you can do a class

I meet a lot of women age 40-50 whose kids are a little older and who now want to work again having been SAHM. It’s not easy, even for very bright women. And it erodes self esteem for many too.

stayathomer · 15/11/2024 06:22

Oh my god op i’d kill for your job and a cleaner- do you want to swap?!😅

IVFmumoftwo · 15/11/2024 06:22

I wouldn't. Money being tight over a long period of time kind of gets boring very fast.

Chan9eusername · 15/11/2024 06:19

Well yeah we'd all love leisure time but someone has to earn the money.

Can you make smaller changes

  • get a robot hoover
  • have the cleaner twice a week
  • reduce hours

Giving up a school hours job feels extreme if your kids are already school age before long it won't be you they won't after school it will be their friends.

Zanatdy · 15/11/2024 06:14

Going part time is the answer. I did that for 10yrs as I had a serious health issue and a single parent to young kids. It meant that I could pick them up from school, have play dates and do all the cleaning on those days, plus some things for myself. It helped me get through that time. I had a major surgery in 2017 and then went back full time in 2018 and worked hard and got a promotion 2yrs ago. I still have a good pension and obviously had a job I could then up my hours in. Mine wasn’t because I wanted to be a SAHM though, that is something I never wanted to do but it was great being able to work part time for those years. I am considering some voluntary top up pension contributions to balance out those part time years but not right now. If you do give up your job, make sure your family income stretches to pay into a pension for you too.

Rocknrollstar · 15/11/2024 06:12

Being a SAHM can be very boring (let’s be honest). You need to know other people who are doing it and you need to have enough money to be able to go to classes or out for lunch or even out for coffee. I would suggest p/t or a four day week is a better option.

SnapdragonToadflax · 15/11/2024 06:10

The small taste of being a SAHM I had on mat leave was deadly boring, and I resented being the default housework and cooking person. Ugh. I also hated not having my own money coming in, towards the end.

I now work condensed hours with one day off, and for me that's ideal. I spend that day rushing around doing everything I didn't get done in the week, get to pick my kid up from school and have some time together. And the cleaner comes. I don't sit around doing nothing because that wouldn't be fair.

Powderblue1 · 15/11/2024 06:05

ArabellaFishwife · 14/11/2024 21:44

Yoga and swimming ain't free. And unless you're reeeally into cleaning, being responsible for all domestic tasks gets very old, very quickly. Are you ready to be taken for granted?

Why would the OP be taken for granted?

Powderblue1 · 15/11/2024 05:54

OP I work part time two days a week.
My youngest has just started school and my DH is happy for me to continue part time as I take the bulk of household duties as he works very very long hours. I'm also happy to do this as I love my job but also love having a few days to potter around the house; read, exercise, meet friends, I do the majority of dit, plan meals etc after 8 years of child rearing and juggling everything. It really is a lovely balance and I'm enjoying this new phase of life even though I miss my little one but he's thriving at school.

Working part time means I get me time and to keep up my career that I worked very hard for, and still contribute to my pension too. I earn a decent salary for my two days still. Of course o could earn more if I upped my hours but we don't need the money and the slower pace works for us as a family.

I've also found our evenings and weekends are much more enjoyable as jobs are done during the week days so we all enjoy that time more as family time as there are no chores to be done.

Would you be able to work part time in your current role?

premierleague · 15/11/2024 05:42

What do you do for a living and will that have moved on without you when you want to go back in a few years?

Bit hit on your pension.

Potential lack of respect from your husband (assume you are married? don't do it if not).

Need to be very clear from the start that everything coming in is family money and you both have equal access to it. Any hint of 'I'll give you an allowance' - scrap the idea.

Diomi · 15/11/2024 05:39

I would up the cleaner’s hours and go swimming. It would be more cost effective and I would rather do my job than clean more.

ChocolateTelephone · 15/11/2024 05:33

You would need to think about things like your pension, family savings, whether you could find another job (especially a WFH, school hours job) if needed after an employment gap, etc.

It wouldn’t be for me and I definitely wouldn’t view being solely responsible for domestic chores romantic, but we all want different things! Is your partner on board? Would he have to give up certain lifestyle perks to fund it?

There is no wrong choice but I don’t necessarily think the romantic vision of reading and yoga is realistic. It will be a lot more cooking, cleaning, garden maintenance etc.